Steve wrote:
Or Option C: Everything in B happens, but then with the common threat removed the unified front disintegrates and the entire Emissary win/win proposition collapses.
It depends how soon you expect the bored gods to arrive. Religious zealots always think their messiah will come within their lifetimes, after all
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
And thus Steve shows why humanity continues to disappoint us. You'll all wish you had back the killer robots when the machine god begins raining hellfire upon you!
And PeZook that would be an excellent point, except that machines tend to measure lifetimes on cosmological scales. We only expect it to take a couple of billion years to conquer the universe.
And Shinn if you are going to use the Puella Magi you better plan on ruthlessly crushing their souls and stomping out every bit of joy from those little girls lives. It's just not as fun if they don't spend half the time crying.
A teenage girl is just a teenage boy who can get laid.
-GTO
We're not just doing this for money; we're doing this for a shitload of money!
Dark Hellion wrote:And thus Steve shows why humanity continues to disappoint us. You'll all wish you had back the killer robots when the machine god begins raining hellfire upon you!
Wait, the killer robots themselves think they'll lose the war anyway. So what's the point?
Dark Hellion wrote:And PeZook that would be an excellent point, except that machines tend to measure lifetimes on cosmological scales. We only expect it to take a couple of billion years to conquer the universe.
I presumed they're intelligent enough to realize their gods would have to come before humanity gets back to fighting each other, or the plan fails
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Dark Hellion wrote:And thus Steve shows why humanity continues to disappoint us. You'll all wish you had back the killer robots when the machine god begins raining hellfire upon you!
Wait, the killer robots themselves think they'll lose the war anyway. So what's the point?
They want the maximum possible war mobilization. Basically, they're "paperclip maximizers," only the "paperclips" they wish to produce are weapons to piss away in extremely brief and lopsided conflict against the gods.
Also, in that they are interested in coalition building. They would rather turn you into fellow paperclip maximizers than turn you into paperclips.
Dark Hellion wrote:And PeZook that would be an excellent point, except that machines tend to measure lifetimes on cosmological scales. We only expect it to take a couple of billion years to conquer the universe.
I presumed they're intelligent enough to realize their gods would have to come before humanity gets back to fighting each other, or the plan fails
Their plan involves, for practical purposes, colonizing the universe to mobilize all of it. I imagine that uniting humanity would be a first step; other viable first steps would involve replacing humanity, or rewiring it to have different priorities, or uniting/rewiring half of humanity and using it to destroy the other half.
The Refuge is not very happy about about all this "god" talk and wishes to file a complaint.
If needed, we will also send an adorable bird.
EDIT: Oh man, the Elysians are still awesome! It is beautiful and there will be more! Hoorah!
DPDarkPrimus is my boyfriend!
SDNW4 Nation: The Refuge And, on Nova Terra, Al-Stan the Totally and Completely Honest and Legitimate Weapons Dealer and Used Starship Salesman slept on a bed made of money, with a blaster under his pillow and his sombrero pulled over his face. This is to say, he slept very well indeed.
The XylyXians are, in the Refuge's frame of reference, very dangerously partially-right.
They have concluded that the reality-warping entities which occupy the higher dimensions are a nasty lot...
...but instead of concluding that to avoid being killed, prudent entities will go far out of their way to avoid attracting their attention, they conclude that they should go pick a fight with them, for reasons of sheer overwhelming existential angst.
Saying that the XylyX are nasty is a bit like calling cancer evil. The machine god is simply a survivor of Blake's apocalypse. There is no science left for them to discover, no art left for them to create, no philosophy left to muse upon. There is only contention; the only thing they can accomplish anymore is to annihilate yet another civilization. But their power, the power to survive everything the multiverse can throw at them, makes such annihilation trivial. Thus there is only the desperate hope that someone will prove them wrong. That someone will show them that there is something, anything, in the cosmos that they have not mastered. At least, this is what the Emissaries think.
The Emissaries have taken a very nihilistic view of the multiverse. To them, the only thing they see as capable of mattering is the XylyX and thus the only way to ever mean anything is to challenge the dominance of the tyrant that now reigns over heaven. Because even though the XylyX will burn your civilization from the stars they will remember you. And they will endure forever with this memory that you actually made them try and thus you will have, for a brief instance, truly been important in the multiverse.
It is the dream of every species, to have everything in creation for a moment hinge upon your actions, but it is twisted to a nightmare because the Emissaries don't care if they win or lose. Just that they have that one time of glory.
The Emissaries are really a delight to play as and I wish I could get over some of my writers block to do more. There is a wonderful perverseness to them in that their actions can be so erratic because what they want is so totally alien to what any other player wants.
A teenage girl is just a teenage boy who can get laid.
-GTO
We're not just doing this for money; we're doing this for a shitload of money!
I didn't say that the XylyX are evil. I said the Emissaries have concluded that they are a nasty lot. Since the Emissaries themselves are a nasty lot, this does not necessarily reflect badly on the hypothetical race of XylyX (which may, as far as I'm concerned, be a prank).
And the Emissaries are still a bunch of paperclip maximizers. Gorram loud lunatic robots.
I hope you guys didn't mind me ending the OMINOUS meeting quickly. I'm pretty sure we can all assume that the details work is done by some underlings off-screen so we can go straight to the fleet movements and other fun things that aren't a lot of talking.
DPDarkPrimus is my boyfriend!
SDNW4 Nation: The Refuge And, on Nova Terra, Al-Stan the Totally and Completely Honest and Legitimate Weapons Dealer and Used Starship Salesman slept on a bed made of money, with a blaster under his pillow and his sombrero pulled over his face. This is to say, he slept very well indeed.
Aw I was going to get a quick post in today about that. Oh well. Anyway Eoghan TaskForce OMINOUS is going to be in the ten thousand point range, before the addition of ground troops. I'll probably will have them start assembling in February.
the engines cannae take any more cap'n
warp 9 to shroomland ~Dalton
Grr, I'm stuck doing a last-minute monograph, so I can't even start my new "Kierger's Escape!" posts. I hope I don't come down with writer's block after that.
You still could, thanks to the wonders of Goddamn Unreal Time. Anyway...
[Refuge]Ground troops? What a crazy concept. Specialized soldiers just for walking around on planets. Strange Outsiders are strange.[/Refuge]
I was thinking at first that I'd send about a 5000 point force, considering the distance and my own unsettled state (and enormous amount of tonnage still under construction) but I might bump that up a bit out of a sense of "We need to measure up!" which I'm pretty sure the Refuge will start feeling when they find out what everyone else is bringing.
DPDarkPrimus is my boyfriend!
SDNW4 Nation: The Refuge And, on Nova Terra, Al-Stan the Totally and Completely Honest and Legitimate Weapons Dealer and Used Starship Salesman slept on a bed made of money, with a blaster under his pillow and his sombrero pulled over his face. This is to say, he slept very well indeed.
Agent Sorchus wrote:Aw I was going to get a quick post in today about that. Oh well. Anyway Eoghan TaskForce OMINOUS is going to be in the ten thousand point range, before the addition of ground troops. I'll probably will have them start assembling in February.
Weren't you going to be the one who was all "you know, this is not a valid reason to wage war" on the MEH?
"How can I wait unknowing?
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
I was saying that the calling for war based on a flimsy case for "slavery" wasn't a valid reason to wage war yes. I had always intended to go to war for the Zenocidal attitudes towards the Orks though. Who says I can't be a little hypocritical? Besides I actually have a large enough ground army to keep watch on the Bragulans while they are in civilian rich territories.
It was the no lying thing that CN started yapping about that pushed my buttons, and made me want to call out the MeH. Jokingly I was considering having the EUC claim that the MeH population failed the Eoghan's sentience exam by being unable to lie.
the engines cannae take any more cap'n
warp 9 to shroomland ~Dalton
Dark Hellion wrote:And Shinn if you are going to use the Puella Magi you better plan on ruthlessly crushing their souls and stomping out every bit of joy from those little girls lives. It's just not as fun if they don't spend half the time crying.
Dark Hellion, I swear that you're probably the only major player who can see right through my demented schemes, but that's neither really here nor there.
In any case, keep in mind that the SDNW4 versions of the Puella Magi have been fighting for the Holy Empire since the days of the Directorate War in the late 2800s. Just imagine the effect that half a millenium of psychological baggage has on them. The only real differences are that Mami has the luxury of losing her head multiple times due to being a posthuman (thankfully not the Nova Atlantean kind), Sayaka hasn't snapped and become an eldritch abomination (which means that Kyoko won't have to nuke herself), and Homura can't travel through time. Maybe Oktavia von Seckendorff is just a mere split personality in this 'verse?
I'm now wondering just how easy it would be to shoehorn Kyuubey into the setting...
I ship Eino Ilmari Juutilainen x Lydia V. Litvyak.
Phantasee: Don't be a dick.
Stofsk: What are you, his mother?
The Yosemite Bear: Obviously, which means that he's grounded, and that she needs to go back to sucking Mr. Coffee's cock.
"d-did... did this thread just turn into Thanas/PeZook slash fiction?" - Ilya Muromets[/size]
Agent Sorchus wrote:I was saying that the calling for war based on a flimsy case for "slavery" wasn't a valid reason to wage war yes. I had always intended to go to war for the Zenocidal attitudes towards the Orks though. Who says I can't be a little hypocritical? Besides I actually have a large enough ground army to keep watch on the Bragulans...
Baerne, when did the Formics send the fleet to the Outlands? The BEEEF meet is in December. I thought the Outlands she-bang doesn't happen until February.
When the Formic/Ascendant fleet enters the Outlands, they'll have to pass through the Hiigaran control zone.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
That... is a damn good question, actually. I got lost in all the unreal time...
Conversion Table:
2000 Mockingbirds = 2 Kilomockingbirds
Basic Unit of Laryngitis = 1 Hoarsepower
453.6 Graham Crackers = 1 Pound Cake
1 Kilogram of Falling Figs - 1 Fig Newton
Time Between Slipping on a Banana Peel and Smacking the Pavement = 1 Bananosecond
Half of a Large Intestine = 1 Semicolon
BELKA! IS! BACK! (Even though a major storyline involving them has stalled completely, but whatever. )
"Finally, Schwarze Squadron has come to the Multiversal Empire of Happiness! The most electrifying name in post-modern aerospace combat! We're gonna go in and bomb the hell out of those fatty jabronis until they glow in the dark! Then we will bomb them some more, and then we will take their food! Our straws reach across space and start to drink their milkshakes! WE! DRINK! THEIR! MILKSHAKES! We drink them up! Finally, they will know what it's like to go one-on-one with the Bringers of Death!"
Captain Zubov then told the assembled journalists that they smell his cooking.
I ship Eino Ilmari Juutilainen x Lydia V. Litvyak.
Phantasee: Don't be a dick.
Stofsk: What are you, his mother?
The Yosemite Bear: Obviously, which means that he's grounded, and that she needs to go back to sucking Mr. Coffee's cock.
"d-did... did this thread just turn into Thanas/PeZook slash fiction?" - Ilya Muromets[/size]
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Alright, how 'bout this: the Formics were responding to news from early February when they sent their fleet. It would take a few days to put together the fleet and a few more days to get it fuelled, provisioned, and to embark the ground troops. The Ascendant central government would likely try to stall as long as possible while they tried to talk the Formics out of sending the fleet, which would use up more time. It couldn't possibly be earlier than mid-to-late February before the Formics left Ascendant territory.
From there, it's a very long way to Hiigara, particularly going around Anglia as the fleet would have been. Add in delays caused by the Formic ships' interception by regular Starfleet ships, and it's quite possible that they wouldn't have reached the Hiigaran Control Zone before March, which is to say right now (I think). The Ascendancy has closer relations with the Bragulans than with any of the other anti-MEH coalition powers, so it would make sense to contact them about joining in. This obviously couldn't happen at the BEEEF; it's long over, but the Hive Queen who headed the Ascendant delegation to the BEEEF was directed to take up the post of Ambassador to the Bragulan Star Empire afterwards. All that needs to be changed for my post to make sense now is the heading.
Conversion Table:
2000 Mockingbirds = 2 Kilomockingbirds
Basic Unit of Laryngitis = 1 Hoarsepower
453.6 Graham Crackers = 1 Pound Cake
1 Kilogram of Falling Figs - 1 Fig Newton
Time Between Slipping on a Banana Peel and Smacking the Pavement = 1 Bananosecond
Half of a Large Intestine = 1 Semicolon
One part of it, yeah. I will find a way to fit it in during the actual MEHstomp, mark my words.
I ship Eino Ilmari Juutilainen x Lydia V. Litvyak.
Phantasee: Don't be a dick.
Stofsk: What are you, his mother?
The Yosemite Bear: Obviously, which means that he's grounded, and that she needs to go back to sucking Mr. Coffee's cock.
"d-did... did this thread just turn into Thanas/PeZook slash fiction?" - Ilya Muromets[/size]
That works. Basically after the Formics launch their fleet to the Outlands, and when the Outlands matter blows over, they're gonna go "uh, now what?" and then decide to divert their fleet to the anti-MEH forces. There are gonna be other Inhumanist League meetings in 3401, anyway.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote: "While there are MANY good reasons why our ancestors in the Zeonic Federation and ZATO were crushed and scattered to the nine vectors of space by the Haruhiists, their insistence on using mecha for everything to the neglect of more conventional warfighting equipment is the one that is most cited in many military history textbooks today. Even with crew training and actual firepower being equal, mecha are individually far more expensive to produce and maintain than tanks and aerospace craft and possess significantly more disadvantages. It is common knowlege that the FROD's performance lags considerably compared to its neighbors, as demonstrated by publicized results of military exercises with the Shinra and Haruhiist militaries. The FROD are simply using the wrong tools for the job, and it may take something along the lines of a one-sided massacre by MEH forces to shock them back to reality."
Oh ho.
The game is on!
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN! Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook Shroom, I read out the stuff you write about us. You are an endless supply of morale down here. :p - an OWS street medic Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
