Samus Aran vs. Master Chief

[ThePerson5]

This battle pits Samus Aran, in her upgraded form at the end of Super Metroid (no hyper beam) against Master Chief, with an overshield, plasma rifle, and Spartan Laser.

Who would win?

[ChosenOne54]

Master Chief gets stomped? How could this go any other way?

[Tanasinn]

Master Chief gets stomped? How could this go any other way?

Someone did a computer animation where they fight and it turns out Master Chief is a girl and they just decide to go be power armor lesbians.

...Yeah, well, you did ask for alternatives.


OP: the Master Chief just can't compete with Samus. Not technologically, and almost certainly not in personal proficiency. I doubt even the Spartan Laser will do Chief much good, since it's a big honking anti-armor weapon with an obvious lead-in time and Samus's armor is VERY agile.

[Purple]

OP: the Master Chief just can't compete with Samus. Not technologically, and almost certainly not in personal proficiency. I doubt even the Spartan Laser will do Chief much good, since it's a big honking anti-armor weapon with an obvious lead-in time and Samus's armor is VERY agile.

In the spirit of debating I am going to have to call you out to provide evidence for that claim. Link or it did not happen.

[RecklessPrudence]

Here ya go.

[ChosenOne54]

Master Chief gets stomped? How could this go any other way?

Someone did a computer animation where they fight and it turns out Master Chief is a girl and they just decide to go be power armor lesbians.

...Yeah, well, you did ask for alternatives.

Please don't remind me of that horrid video!

OP: the Master Chief just can't compete with Samus. Not technologically, and almost certainly not in personal proficiency. I doubt even the Spartan Laser will do Chief much good, since it's a big honking anti-armor weapon with an obvious lead-in time and Samus's armor is VERY agile.

Really, by the end of any Metroid game, Samus' basic rapid fire beam turns into a 6ftx6ft wall of plasma/electricity/ice that can phase through walls. And she can fire it like a machine gun! Or she could spam power bombs, super missiles, use the screw attack, speed booster... oh, so many options.

OP: Seriously, why do you hate Master Chief?

[Molyneux]

Here ya go.

That's not the Master Chief, by the way - it's the Spartan from Dead or Alive, who, yes, was a girl.

[Steven Snyder]

Do we have anything for Metroid figures other than game-mechanics?

I am of the opinion that comparisons cannot be made without something to measure and game-mechanics are terrible for this purpose. Hell you could argue that Super-Mario with his 20 foot jumps, ability to smash man-sized holes in bricks with this bare hands and throwing fireballs thing would give him the ability to take down the Batman.

[Metahive]

O see, Mario has a very glaring weakness, 300 seconds into a scene he just dies. I think Batman can manage to wait him out.

[ChosenOne54]

Do we have anything for Metroid figures other than game-mechanics?

I am of the opinion that comparisons cannot be made without something to measure and game-mechanics are terrible for this purpose. Hell you could argue that Super-Mario with his 20 foot jumps, ability to smash man-sized holes in bricks with this bare hands and throwing fireballs thing would give him the ability to take down the Batman.

There is some official information, but it doesn't explain too much:
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Volt_Driver (terawatts)
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Judicator (shots near absolute zero)
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Battlehammer (mini nuclear reactor, no info on the output)

Otherwise you could take a look at this thread:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=89138

[Solauren]

Samus Aran would ripe Master Chief a new one.

Consider -
When using her Screw Attack function, she can't be damaged by anything any enemies have thrown at her (with the exception of Mother Brain at the end of Super Metroid, but hell, even using Game Genie cheat doesn't stop MB until the pre-programmed sequence is completed). This includes being immersed in lava and acid, dragon fire, and a shit load of other crap. Her Speed Booster function has similiar capabilities, and with both, she can literally drill her way (at sonic speeds) through bedrock.

(Mind you, I could be incorrect about the not taking damage from lava when using the Screw Attack).

She can hang out in lava in for extended periods of time (shown during her escape from Ridley's lair), and take incredible amounts of punishment. (i.e the entire Metroid game series)

Her Super Missiles hit with and explode with enough force to shake a large cavern.

She has a energy beam that FREEZES targets.

Quite frankly, this is as bad a curp stomp as an Executor Class Star Dreadnaught against a Federation Cruiser. The Star Dreadnaught's going to open fire, and the Federation Cruiser MIGHT have enough time to go 'oh crap'.

She might just speed-booster should ram Master Chief into a wall, bitch slap him once or twice, and he if doesn't surrender, freeze him solid. If her orders are 'capture', he wakes up tied up in her ships brig. If her orders are kill, she puts a Super Missile or two into him and calls it a day.

[ChosenOne54]

Yeah. Master Chief gets stomped any way you look at it.

[Molyneux]

I'd also like to note that her one major advantage Samus has over any other power armor in-universe - at least, as noted in the original Metroid game manual, and present as a mechanic in all but the Game That Shall Not Be Named - is that her Chozo armorsuit can absorb energy from defeated enemies to refill its own shields.

While the MC has his own regenerating shield, Samus' armor takes vastly more punishment without failure, and seems to be absolutely immune to harm so long as it retains some power reserve.

[ChosenOne54]

She can survive indefinitely in magma, as well as walk through it like it's AIR.

How the suit manages to do that I do not know.

[avatarxprime]

Samus slaughters the Chief without even slowing down. This has been done before, three seperate times in fact.

the Game That Shall Not Be Named

OK, you piqued my curiosity, which Metroid game is that? I've played just about every one there is and can't recall one where she can't do that. I understand if you don't want to provide the name, but a clue to the game in question would be appreciated.

[ChosenOne54]

OK, you piqued my curiosity, which Metroid game is that? I've played just about every one there is and can't recall one where she can't do that. I understand if you don't want to provide the name, but a clue to the game in question would be appreciated.

Other M, it has a completely new health system which is, frankly, shit.

[Stark]

I am of the opinion that comparisons cannot be made without something to measure and game-mechanics are terrible for this purpose. Hell you could argue that Super-Mario with his 20 foot jumps, ability to smash man-sized holes in bricks with this bare hands and throwing fireballs thing would give him the ability to take down the Batman.

Are you claiming Mario CAN'T do those things? Bear in mind, Mario is capable of travelling through space.

[ChosenOne54]

[Are you claiming Mario CAN'T do those things? Bear in mind, Mario is capable of travelling through space.

Just look at what Bowser survived. In Mario Galaxy, he fell into a star, which then proceeded to explode, and turn into a massive black hole threatening to consume the universe with bowser right in the centre. He woke up with a headache.

[avatarxprime]

OK, you piqued my curiosity, which Metroid game is that? I've played just about every one there is and can't recall one where she can't do that. I understand if you don't want to provide the name, but a clue to the game in question would be appreciated.

Other M, it has a completely new health system which is, frankly, shit.

I see, well that was my guess. I've played everything except Other M and Hunters (not counting the pinball game) and I was pretty sure Hunters still worked like normal. Bah, I went from hope to despair with every new thing I heard about Other M after the teaser trailer so I guess I shouldn't be surprised they messed up something else about Samus.

[ChosenOne54]

Haven't played through Other M yet, I'm only at the beginning.

I want to play it just to see how bad it really it

I replayed Super Metroid right before, though, just so my memory of Metroid doesn't get completely ruined.

[Ugolino]

Despite what the Haloid video might tell you, Master Chief doesn't stand a chance. In terms of armour, equipment, and training/experience, Samus has the advantage. The question is how long Master Chief can survive.

Even "the Atrocity That Must Not Be Named"'s portrayal supports this.

[Purple]

Please don't remind me of that horrid video!

Why horrid? The fighting scenes were epic and reminded me of the good old days of PC shooters where graphics were unimportant. It also made me go back to Quake 3.

[ChosenOne54]

Please don't remind me of that horrid video!

Why horrid? The fighting scenes were epic and reminded me of the good old days of PC shooters where graphics were unimportant. It also made me go back to Quake 3.

It was bearable up until the Matrix part.

[Sarevok]

It reminded me of what Halo fanboys think Master Chief can do.

[inviz345]

samuas think of gm as level 1 cannon