[Halo] Forerunners vs [WH40k] Chaos

[Crom]

A Forerunner survey team comes into contact with portal to Chaos on the planet G 617 g. After first contact, the Forerunner immediately recognizes the danger that Chaos poses to the entire galaxy and attempts to contain them.

How would the Forerunners fare if the Flood was replaced with Chaos?

[lordofchange13]

Necrons seem to be more advanced and powerful then forerunners, and there having a difficult time slaying chaos. plus chaos defies physics and Haloverse has nothing like magic , so they would not even know where to begain with fighting them example: my name sake a lord of change freaken predicts the future,who do you fight that with out psyer like beings of your own?

[SpaceMarine93]

Dude, Chaos would completely curbstomp the Forerunners.

[Srelex]

This is fairly meaningless without determining the Forerunner's susceptibility to Chaos. If we are assuming that this is Chaos with traitor legions and all, in conventional combat the spiky dudes won't stand a chance against even obsolete Forerunner combat units if what I've seen from Cryptum is anything to go by. I'm also somewhat confused by the OP--is this some portal to the Warp itself, or are we assuming that the Warp has just popped up?

[Sarevok]

Normal Forerunners get stomped.

The ones featured in Cryptum ? They probably take this. These guys had mastered accessing parallel universes.

[Stark]

If only any of those universes contained a clue, the Forerunners would still be alive.

I guess this is novel Forerunners, since in the games everything we see belonging to the Forerunners is garbage. Does it include the 'combine sentinels to form a super sentinel' superplanet?

[Norade]

I would think the forerunners would be at least as susceptible to chaos as they were to the graveminds hypno bullshit meaning they still lose their super AI and thus get beaten down. Not to mention that they have no idea how to deal with things like daemons popping into existence at random because some computer caught the 'worship khorne virus' from the god AI.

[Crom]

This is fairly meaningless without determining the Forerunner's susceptibility to Chaos. If we are assuming that this is Chaos with traitor legions and all, in conventional combat the spiky dudes won't stand a chance against even obsolete Forerunner combat units if what I've seen from Cryptum is anything to go by. I'm also somewhat confused by the OP--is this some portal to the Warp itself, or are we assuming that the Warp has just popped up?

I was thinking none of the Traitor Legions, just the Chaos Gods and daemons. I just realized that the lack of psykers on the Forerunner side of things might inhibit the spread of Chaos, but Chaos is pretty good at corrupting just about everything.

[Ugolino]

Considering that the AI they placed in charge of the war was vulnerable to a logical argument without any magical corruption involved, the Forerunners are doomed. Technology doesn't even enter into it: they're far too vulnerable to Chaos influence, having no experience with or resistance to such things, and their AI are even worse in that respect.

[Tanasinn]

There's no reason to assume that the Forerunner - or their technology - is as vulnerable to corruption as 40k denizens, if they are vulnerable at all. The OP needs to stipulate to what degree - if any - Chaos can influence the Forerunner.

We have no reason to assume that Chaos is capable of making the same arguments the Flood hive mind did to ensure the Forerunner war AI would turn coats, nor do we have any reason to assume it would matter. Unlike the Flood, who were ignored until they were a tremendous threat due to bad writing (which made the betrayal a critical blow at a late juncture in the war), the OP stipulates that the Forerunner evaluate Chaos to be a threat from the beginning.

We know that the upper end of Forerunner technology is extremely impressive - Chaos has not demonstrated the ability to euthanize an entire galaxy. Neither have the Necrons, the most technologically-advanced race in 40k, and there's little doubt as to whether they'd build such a weapon if they could.

[Whiskey144]

Neither have the Necrons, the most technologically-advanced race in 40k, and there's little doubt as to whether they'd build such a weapon if they could.

Actually, there is a great deal of doubt as to whether the Necrons would build galaxy-killing weapons if they could; the Necrons are not "kill everything because the living suck for living". At the very least, the greater proportion of Necrons are not like that; a few one-off batshit crazy Lords might be, but certainly not all of them.

In fact, even the Nightbringer, the C'Tan whose very bloodthirstiness created a huge racial impression on human and Eldar alike, doesn't want to exterminate everything, as the Nightbringer's shtick is "I eatz people cuz they taste gud". Kind of hard to eat people when there aren't any left.

I'll also note that the Nightbringer, among other C'Tan, is reputed to have consumed entire galaxies, and that the Necrons/Necrontyr were also have reputed to eliminated entire galaxies during the War in Heaven with the Old Ones.

There's no reason to assume that the Forerunner - or their technology - is as vulnerable to corruption as 40k denizens, if they are vulnerable at all. The OP needs to stipulate to what degree - if any - Chaos can influence the Forerunner.

I'd say that there's at least some level of vulnerability to corruption implicit in the OP's description; if Chaos was no threat, then it'd likely be because there's nothing for them to corrupt that would matter to the Forerunners. I'll further note that it's probably a good bet Chaos can possess and/or corrupt Forerunner tech, as they can corrupt, say, the ballpoint pen sitting on your desk. The reasons why they wouldn't do so are patently obvious; the ballpoint pen is fairly useless, and you are probably not worth the effort of corrupting.

We have no reason to assume that Chaos is capable of making the same arguments the Flood hive mind did to ensure the Forerunner war AI would turn coats, nor do we have any reason to assume it would matter.

We also have no reason to assume that Chaos would actually bother trying to do so, as the goal of the Ruinous Powers is more likely to be "corrupt and enslave", rather than a silly (from a Chaotic POV) "kill and exterminate". Even Khorne needs followers to bleed and die, and if there's no one left, then that rather makes life hard for him, don't you agree?

Unlike the Flood, who were ignored until they were a tremendous threat due to bad writing (which made the betrayal a critical blow at a late juncture in the war), the OP stipulates that the Forerunner evaluate Chaos to be a threat from the beginning.

Similarly unlike the Flood, Chaos does not have the objective of eliminating the Forerunners; rather, they have the far more likely (and more useful to the Four Gods) objective of corrupting the Forerunners.