Samus Aran vs. Darth Vader

[Enigma]

How strong is Vader's Force Scream (outside of the ending of RotS)?

[Norade]

...he'll just crush her gun arm

Hm, well good luck doing that.

And yes, he will be a pretty dangerous opponent if Samus doesn't proceed with caution. Then again, her visor has a scanning ability which right off the bat provides Samus with information on Vader's weaknesses, powers, and weaponry, which would definitely come in handy.

How the fuck would her visor know anything about Vader's force abilities? You're also ignoring Vader's precog, force enhanced speed and reflexes, and if you want to bring games into this, a remarkable variety of abilities available to him.

[Stark]

How is Samus supposed to outrun the Force? Vader (and force users like him) destroyed legions of gun-arm armed robots, remember? Even slight damage to her gun will prevent her using any special weapons, since they involve transforming her gun. It's possible the energy shield also protects the gun, but even this may not protect it from Vader.

The idea Samus's visor has the magical ability to 'display all stats on target' is asinine. It regularly spits out nothing but question marks in the games, or vague speculation like 'a guy with dark aether'.

[ChosenOne54]

How the fuck would her visor know anything about Vader's force abilities?

Don't ask me how it works, but in game, scanning an enemy or object instantly tells you everything about it (weaponry, weak points, and what weapons would work best against it etc.)

You're also ignoring Vader's precog, force enhanced speed and reflexes, and if you want to bring games into this, a remarkable variety of abilities available to him.

Precog could be a problem, but apart from knowing somebody is about to attack him, what does it do? Does he sense exactly where the attacker will be at a certain point in time, or what the attacker is about to do? How does it work exactly?

As for speed, can Vader run at supersonic? Samus can, and she also has sufficient reflexes to perform complicated maneuvers at that speed as well.

And I'm not denying that his force powers would be a threat, just how quickly and efficiently would be be able to perform them while being shot at?

As a side note, Samus vs. General Grievous would be a more interesting and fitting debate, as it is entirely based on technology, and therefore there wouldn't be speculation on force powers/telekinesis etc.

[Norade]

How the fuck would her visor know anything about Vader's force abilities?

Don't ask me how it works, but in game, scanning an enemy or object instantly tells you everything about it (weaponry, weak points, and what weapons would work best against it etc.)

Gameplay =/= absolute truth you.

You're also ignoring Vader's precog, force enhanced speed and reflexes, and if you want to bring games into this, a remarkable variety of abilities available to him.

Precog could be a problem, but apart from knowing somebody is about to attack him, what does it do? Does he sense exactly where the attacker will be at a certain point in time, or what the attacker is about to do? How does it work exactly?

As for speed, can Vader run at supersonic? Samus can, and she also has sufficient reflexes to perform complicated maneuvers at that speed as well.

And I'm not denying that his force powers would be a threat, just how quickly and efficiently would be be able to perform them while being shot at?

As a side note, Samus vs. General Grievous would be a more interesting and fitting debate, as it is entirely based on technology, and therefore there wouldn't be speculation on force powers/telekinesis etc.

He used it to block a blaster shot from Han and they famously use it to block projectiles. It can also give you the idea that you're about to get pulled into something so he may be ready even before the two combatants see each other.

Faster than the eye can see for speed, so above super sonic if you literally can't track him with your eye.

He's casually lifted a hand and stopped a blaster shot before in the movies. I can believe that he would be capable of far more in book accounts of his feats.

[ChosenOne54]

Gameplay =/= absolute truth you.

We don't exactly have many other sources to go by .

He used it to block a blaster shot from Han and they famously use it to block projectiles. It can also give you the idea that you're about to get pulled into something so he may be ready even before the two combatants see each other.

Faster than the eye can see for speed, so above super sonic if you literally can't track him with your eye.

He's casually lifted a hand and stopped a blaster shot before in the movies. I can believe that he would be capable of far more in book accounts of his feats.

Yes, blocking a blaster shot is all well and good, but a blaster shot isn't exactly very large. The one crippling advantage Samus has is that her stacked beam is literally a wall of energy. Not to mention, combined with the wave beam, the blast simply phases through solid objects.

As for speed, faster than the eye can see isn't too specific. If a car is speeding down the highway at 220 km/h, it would be damned difficult for you to track it with your eye as it passes by you.

Anyway, is the EU allowed in this match? Because the OP said 'as seen in the Empire Strikes Back.'

For reference anyway, here is Samus combatting a group of space pirates:
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=18
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=19
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=20
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=21

So she is far from a lumbering hulk. She is, in fact, incredibly agile, and not afraid to use this to her advantage in a fight.

It also gives a good idea of the power of her weapons (that's not even her most powerful form).

[Norade]

Gameplay =/= absolute truth you.

We don't exactly have many other sources to go by .

He used it to block a blaster shot from Han and they famously use it to block projectiles. It can also give you the idea that you're about to get pulled into something so he may be ready even before the two combatants see each other.

Faster than the eye can see for speed, so above super sonic if you literally can't track him with your eye.

He's casually lifted a hand and stopped a blaster shot before in the movies. I can believe that he would be capable of far more in book accounts of his feats.

Yes, blocking a blaster shot is all well and good, but a blaster shot isn't exactly very large. The one crippling advantage Samus has is that her stacked beam is literally a wall of energy. Not to mention, combined with the wave beam, the blast simply phases through solid objects.

As for speed, faster than the eye can see isn't too specific. If a car is speeding down the highway at 220 km/h, it would be damned difficult for you to track it with your eye as it passes by you.

Anyway, is the EU allowed in this match? Because the OP said 'as seen in the Empire Strikes Back.'

For reference anyway, here is Samus combatting a group of space pirates:
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=18
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=19
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=20
http://metroid.retropixel.net/gallery.p ... mage_id=21

So she is far from a lumbering hulk. She is, in fact, incredibly agile, and not afraid to use this to her advantage in a fight.

It also gives a good idea of the power of her weapons (that's not even her most powerful form).

Can't really ban the EU. However you can use everything about him up to that point. As to the rest, I know what Samus can do.

[ChosenOne54]

Can't really ban the EU. However you can use everything about him up to that point. As to the rest, I know what Samus can do.

Not too familiar with the EU though. I watch the movies and the Clone Wars TV specials (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Clone_Wars), but I haven't really read the books.

[avatarxprime]

When she transforms into morph ball mode, her body in converted into energy [snip]

Umm, no it's not. No one knows what happens to her body when she does that and the Space Pirates who tried to replicate the technology all got horribly maimed in the process. They most definately used a physical process to try and replicate it and considering they are her primary opponents I would think they'd have the best idea how her stuff works. Keep in mind they did manage to replicate her beam weapons, something the Galactic Federation as of Fusion is still having problems with.

Short of a surprise attack from behind there's nothing that would stop Samus from blasting Vader's face away while he stands perfectly still and chokes her. A Metroid plugging on and sucking her life out, which I'd say presents an attack similar in kind to the Force Choke, only manages to slow her down after all. [snip]

And Vader should stand still why? I could be wrong but nothing I've seen says that they have to remain still while using that power. Also keep in mind that Vader drags out the choke on purpose, he enjoys it. Look at when Luke uses it in RotJ, he gets a similar effect far faster. As to the issue with the Metroid, keep in mind that they are draining her suit's power, not her life force. The second your suit energy is gone Samus instantly dies to everything on Zebes, or anywhere else she goes really. That's why she slows down, the suit just can't handle the energy drain and keeping her moving.

I think the more interesting question is if Samus' weapons can be blocked and/or reflected with a lightsaber.

I think it would depend on the weapon in question, the Normal beam, Charge beam, Wave beam, Plasma beam and Ice beam and probably all blockable, although I feel like the Ice Beam would probably do bad things to a lightsaber. The Spazer/Wide Beam is probably not since it simply covers a wider area than the saber can be expected to block. If a saber can block them though like Mace blocked Force Lightning then the saber can likely block all of the beams since they are still energy weapons and as far as we have seen in SW, a lightsaber can block or reflect just about any energy weapon (obviously things like starship grade cannons are excluded). However, he doesn't need to block anything, he can just dodge her attacks. In the Prime series there are plenty of enemies (i.e. the Space Pirates) who can dodge Samus' beam weapons and they don't move particularly fast in comparison to what Vader can do. Samus can also dodge her own beam weapons as you can dodge the attacks of the Pirates who use replicated versions of Samus' beam weapons.

As for speed, can Vader run at supersonic? Samus can, and she also has sufficient reflexes to perform complicated maneuvers at that speed as well.

Since when? In the games if you use the speed booster Samus is super fast sure, but she's hardly performing complex maneuvers, unless you consider going in a straight line and maybe jumping a complex maneuver. Outside of the speed booster she's still quite a fast and agile fighter but certainly not supersonic.


As much as I love Samus I think this ends badly for her, either that or it ends in MAD. Vader has precog, Force aided speed and reflexes, and things like Force Choke. Samus is a one-woman-army that lacks defense against something like the Force. Samus' best chance is if Vader opts to try and close the distance to her and use his lightsaber. Samus can then use her Ice beam + power bomb charge combo (available in Super Metroid, but since she gets power bombs in Zero Mission I'm saying it should work) and hopefully freeze him and then kill him. His precog would alert him to the danger (possibly in time to do something about it) and he kills her with the Force while she might just end up freezing and killing him. Otherwise if Vader senses the level of danger she represents and just uses the Force to kill her she never gets the chance to return the favor.

[Napoleon the Clown]

Back when he was still Anakin, Vader used force crush on someone, so we know he is quite capable of using it. Mace Windu used the same power on General Grievous to excellent effect, and Vader is far stronger in the Force than Mace was. If his precog says Samus needs to die fast he's quite capable of just up and killing her. At no point in the original trilogy did he need to quickly take someone out who wasn't also strong in the Force.


As to Samus' reaction to getting choked... As has been said, Vader was toying with his victims. Not to mention your body's automatic reflex to getting its throat crushed is to try and get whatever is restricting it away. Do we have any reason to believe Samus has learned to suppress this reflex?

[Stark]

In this scenario, does Vader have experience with powersuited people? Kenobi and Windu fought Jango, later on there are lots of SW powersuits... if Anakin even attended briefings about this stuff, he'll know to attack the suit rather than the pilot. Without her gun arm, Samus is a bit borked, and turning into a ball is just asking for Vader to throw her into a garbage compactor.

[Havok]

If gameplay mechanics are factored in, like the magic visor that knows everything about an enemy, then go do a play through of the Force Unleashed 1 and 2.

[ChosenOne54]

Since when? In the games if you use the speed booster Samus is super fast sure, but she's hardly performing complex maneuvers, unless you consider going in a straight line and maybe jumping a complex maneuver. Outside of the speed booster she's still quite a fast and agile fighter but certainly not supersonic.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N025nnrcGrc

I'd also like to point out that, if we take the numbers in Metroid seriously, the planet Zebes has a gravitational pull 800 times greater than that of the Earth.

The pull of Gravity can be determined by the formula if you know a planet’s Mass and Radius and the Gravitational Constant: GM/r^2=a

G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the Zebes, r is the radius of the Zebes, and a is the acceleration due to the force of gravity.

So we substitute the Mass and Radius of Earth with the Mass and Radius of Zebes and we get:
((4.35448675 × ((10^27) kilograms)) * (6.67300 × ((10^(-11)) (m^3) (kg^(-1)) (s^(-2))))) / ((5850 km)^2) = 8490.75611 m / s^2

Which means:8490.75611m/s^2 (1 g on Zebes) /9.81m/s^2 (1 g on Earth) = 865.5

That anyone who lives on Zebes is use to an 865.5 g environment and when introduced into a 1 g environment would be increadibly strong.

I know, it's clownshit insane. However if we accept it, it means that Samus grew up in environments that could crush any regular human under gravity alone, whereas Samus can perform flying somersaults in midair, suggesting ridiculous strength. It also means it it would be more difficult for Vader to crush her windpipe, as she regularly lives in incredibly high gravity environments.

[Stark]

If only he wasn't going to break her gun and then chop her in half then, I guess? Ridiculous assertions like 'Zebes has 600x gravity and Samus is fine with that' aren't even particularly relevant, and if you want to down the game path, Samus is often totally unable to damage bricks. Vader's lack of a large, glowing weakpoint will challenge Samus's ability for tactical thought, while Vader has (probably) fought people in power armour (and robots like people in power armour) before.

[avatarxprime]

Since when? In the games if you use the speed booster Samus is super fast sure, but she's hardly performing complex maneuvers, unless you consider going in a straight line and maybe jumping a complex maneuver. Outside of the speed booster she's still quite a fast and agile fighter but certainly not supersonic.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N025nnrcGrc

Ummm, that was just shinesparking. Note how she only ever traveled in a straight line at high speed, the rest of the time she moved at the regular move rate to make her traversal. Now if that same path was done completely in boost mode then you'd have a point. Otherwise this is nothing other than an impressive (ok, I'll be honest, really impressive) display in not losing your shinespark. It is certainly not proof that Samus can maneuver at supersonic speeds as she always slows down to make adjustments.

I'd also like to point out that, if we take the numbers in Metroid seriously, the planet Zebes has a gravitational pull 800 times greater than that of the Earth.

The pull of Gravity can be determined by the formula if you know a planet’s Mass and Radius and the Gravitational Constant: GM/r^2=a

G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the Zebes, r is the radius of the Zebes, and a is the acceleration due to the force of gravity.

So we substitute the Mass and Radius of Earth with the Mass and Radius of Zebes and we get:
((4.35448675 × ((10^27) kilograms)) * (6.67300 × ((10^(-11)) (m^3) (kg^(-1)) (s^(-2))))) / ((5850 km)^2) = 8490.75611 m / s^2

Which means:8490.75611m/s^2 (1 g on Zebes) /9.81m/s^2 (1 g on Earth) = 865.5

Eh, maybe it was just a long scale (British) vs short scale (US) error? They said trillion but meant billion. That would bring the numbers in line with what the Earth weighs and produce far more rational numbers. Considering Zebes, Tallon IV and other worlds are all classed as weighing in the trillions it would make everything make sense. Zebes would end up with g=8.49m/s^2 or 86.6% of Earth standard. Tallon IV using the trillion=billion would then end up with gravity = 6.88m/s^2 or 70.1% of Earth standard.

[Highlord Laan]

Really, Samus is a one-woman walking artillery battery. I'm actually trying to think of a ground based enemy she can't crush, and I'm leaning towards Space Marine Terminators.

[Metahive]

And Vader should stand still why? I could be wrong but nothing I've seen says that they have to remain still while using that power. Also keep in mind that Vader drags out the choke on purpose, he enjoys it. Look at when Luke uses it in RotJ, he gets a similar effect far faster. As to the issue with the Metroid, keep in mind that they are draining her suit's power, not her life force. The second your suit energy is gone Samus instantly dies to everything on Zebes, or anywhere else she goes really. That's why she slows down, the suit just can't handle the energy drain and keeping her moving.

Every time a Jedi or Sith uses the force to move more than a pine-sized object (ie. Darth Maul when he TK's something small to open the gates to the reactor of Theed), he stands still and focuses up to including Yoda and Palpatine who are among the strongest Force users. That's in all the movies and the cartoon series. Does the rest of the EU have Jedi/Sith throwing bigger objects around while in quick motion? I don't know, examples would be appreciated.

Also, wrong on the second fact. Per the OP it's explicitely Zero Mission Samus here who can survive the environment and more than one hit without her powersuit on as long as she has enough energy reserves as shown in the whole suitless sequence that game added .

[Metahive]

Crap, missed the editing window.

I think it would depend on the weapon in question, the Normal beam, Charge beam, Wave beam, Plasma beam and Ice beam and probably all blockable, although I feel like the Ice Beam would probably do bad things to a lightsaber. The Spazer/Wide Beam is probably not since it simply covers a wider area than the saber can be expected to block. If a saber can block them though like Mace blocked Force Lightning then the saber can likely block all of the beams since they are still energy weapons and as far as we have seen in SW, a lightsaber can block or reflect just about any energy weapon (obviously things like starship grade cannons are excluded). However, he doesn't need to block anything, he can just dodge her attacks. In the Prime series there are plenty of enemies (i.e. the Space Pirates) who can dodge Samus' beam weapons and they don't move particularly fast in comparison to what Vader can do. Samus can also dodge her own beam weapons as you can dodge the attacks of the Pirates who use replicated versions of Samus' beam weapons.

As I already said per the OP it's endgame Zero Mission Samus, her beam is therefore stacked with everything available, Charge, Spazer, Plasma, Wave and Ice. What makes you think it would conveniently converge upon Vader's blade as lightning? Outside of lightning lightsabers are never shown to soak any energy, just reflect it and there's more to Samus' stacked beam than the average blaster bolt.

When Vader is dodging Samus' barrage he can't use his more advanced Force powers and what if Samus lays a powerbomb?

CG Clone Wars shows Jedi including Anakin repeatedly struggling to overcome bounty hunters even with all their Force powers and precognition. What's Cad Bane got? Twin blasters, a jetpack, a wrist-mounted zapper and a big hat. I think that's less than what Samus got.

[Vympel]

If anyone cared to use the search function, Mike thoroughly debunked the bullshit "lol high gravity" nonsense peddled by Metroid years ago.

[Solauren]

If Samus gets game mechanics as indications of power, the so does Vader.

As a site, we pretty much disavow game mechanics unless they are realistic. How many missiles does Samus keep in her hand? Where is all the energy kept for these massively powerful hand weapons? In her back pack? Where does she keep all these power bombs in that skin tight suit? Should we get creative?

The ony logical conclusion for Samus's ingame abilities with matter and energy I've seen is that her power suit has a built in matter/energy conversion system.

Basically, her suit can scoope up matter, and covert say, dead Metroid parts into Super Missile fuel.

Her weapon capacity and loads are therefore limited by her unboard storage/memory capacity.

In short - she has the abilities Star Trek fan-boys wish Replicators had.

[Ugolino]

Weaponry wise, Samus wins this hands-down. Power armour and alien technology are no match for the power of the Force, however...

[Solauren]

How about someone with more brains tackles Metroid then the ChosenOne?

Samus Arun is a baseline human that has been modified by Chonzo (Bird Man) and as of Metroid Fusion, injections of Metroid DNA.
The effects on Samus of this are a vulnerability to Cold, but an effect similiar to the Super Soldier Formula from Marvel Comics. Out of suit, she hasn't done anything that isn't within human limitations. She just is at the peak for everything.
Otherwise, the Galactic Federation would be reverse engineering her DNA and upgrading their soldiers.

News flash - They are not. I don't recall hearing about anything like that in any Metroid games, or seeing any hint of it, even in Metroid: Other M.

Her reflexs are still withing the realm of plausible, not 'Supernatural'.

Next, Samus's armor is powerful. Actually, that's an understatement. I have yet to see a more powerful suit of power armor or robotics technology that size, ANYWHERE.

Bombs/Explosives
She seemingly has unlimited bomb capacity, and they appear to be about as powerful as a block of C-4. She can only drop about 3 at a time (Charge Beam, Morph ball, and you drop 3 of the bombs). She can carry up to 50 Power Bombs, and they are considerably more powerful. I haven't seen numbers, but they are probably at least as powerful as similiar sized Star Wars explosives.

Beam Weaponary -
Wide/Spazer/Plasma/Ice Weapons - I have no idea how these work in game. However, when you get down to it, she might as well have a Mini-Gun that is shooting plasma bolts and freezing people at the same time (shots plasma then ice?). Going by what we've seen them crack in game (blocks of rock about 1 meter on a side), that's more powerful then a Star Wars blaster. Probably up their with Concussion Rifles.

Missiles -
Quite frankly, against Vader, Samus's missiles are a non-issue. i.e the Omega Meteroid in 'Fusion' was catching the things. However, they are powerful. Star Wars anti-tank weapons probably. However, mute point.

Other Suit abilities
Extreme Environmental surivability, Exoskeletal Strength enhancement, Limited Flight capability (Space Jump), the ability to literally 'drill' through rock (Screw Attack), and SUpersonic running speeds (Speed Booster).

However, all that is pointless.

Samus has the ability to analyze known or similiar to know species. She fucking GREW UP on Zebes and had access to the Chonzo and Federation Database for lifeforms, and the suit can probably perform analysis based on known factors.


Now, let's run this scenario, shall we?
Round 0: Samus scans Vader. Vader is revealed to be a cyborg with artificial limbs, no implanted weapons, and is carrying a laser sword (let's say the Armor's database recognizes a Lightsaber as a Laser Sword capable of damaging the armor).

Vader is going to sense Samus is a threat to him. He'll also sense 'Human or Near human in a suit of power armor'

Round 1:
Samus raises her arm cannon and fires beam weapons
Vader will use the Force to block the arm cannon shots. By hand if the Force says he can, with lightsaber if required.
Note: We have seen powerful force users, i.e Vader, Luke, Mace, etc. BLOCK AT-AT level fire with their lightsaber.
Joruus C'boath was able to take the shockwave from a X-wing fighter blast at point blank range.

Round 2:
Samus will switch to more powerful weapon, and cook off a Super Missile at Vader. (Possibly a Diffusion missile, but those take a bit to charge up, and Samus is in a hurry). She may charge up a Diffusion Missile while the first missile is flying at Vader. I'll assume so.
Vader will use the Force to deflect the missile away so he can observe what the missile can do.

Round 3:
Repeat as Round 2, but Vader deflects the Diffusion missile.

End of Round 3 - Vader has determined Samus's armor and weapons technology is more powerful then similiar sized imperial weapons. (Darktroopers are also powerful, but he just called them 'impressive'. He didn't kill General Mohc has a potiental threat, however).
Therefore, she is to be captured.
Imagine turning a legion of Samus ARun Power Suited (at full power) Stormtroopers lose on a rebel base.

Round 4 -
Samus tries something.
Vader attacks her directly with the Force. Either a force choke to knock her out, or direct blunt force trauma to the head (i.e Force Push). Samus either collapses unable to breath (and therefore concentrate), or lands rather awkwardly on the ground, unconsious from the massive concussion Vader just gave her with a thought.


End of Fight Summary -
Being with Magical powers trumps vulnerable non-magical being. Technology is not a factor unless it shields against mystical/magicla powers.

Vader wins, Flawless Victory.

[Thanas]

Vader was known to crush the lungs of several dozens of men if need be. I doubt that she can stand up to that.

[Napoleon the Clown]

What Thanas said. The Force doesn't say "Shit, armor. Whelp, I'm useless." It says "Psh, armor? I can kill a man from millions of miles away, through armor. Later, bitch."

The resiliency of Samus' armor is only an issue if Vader goes at her with a lightsaber. And as far as gameplay goes... Not usually a good way to go off things. If gameplay is accepted than we know that an ordinary human can be shot by a disruptor rifle at point-blank range and not even need to get proper medical treatment. Stick yourself with a medpac and you're all better.

Comparing a video game character to a movie character is incredibly difficult because gameplay mechanics tend to massively increase physical abilities so that you can have fun with it. If we accept gameplay mechanics as a way to measure combat abilities a GI from the C&C games can survive getting shot by a tank and continue to fight at full effectiveness.


I will note that Vader didn't burst into flames on Mustafar until after he had his limbs lopped off and lost all concentration. That we didn't get cooked alive even after that point suggests that powerful Force users can somehow survive incredible extremes of heat. As in "Stand a dozen feet away from 2,000* lava and not even look uncomfortable."

Vader's technology may not be as powerful as Samus' suit, but he's got magic that gives tech the finger. It's almost as bad for Samus as pitting her against a 20th level Wizard from 3.5 D&D. Her armor won't do shit against a guy who can banish her to another dimension or turn her into a cockroach.

[avatarxprime]

And Vader should stand still why? I could be wrong but nothing I've seen says that they have to remain still while using that power. Also keep in mind that Vader drags out the choke on purpose, he enjoys it. Look at when Luke uses it in RotJ, he gets a similar effect far faster. As to the issue with the Metroid, keep in mind that they are draining her suit's power, not her life force. The second your suit energy is gone Samus instantly dies to everything on Zebes, or anywhere else she goes really. That's why she slows down, the suit just can't handle the energy drain and keeping her moving.

Every time a Jedi or Sith uses the force to move more than a pine-sized object (ie. Darth Maul when he TK's something small to open the gates to the reactor of Theed), he stands still and focuses up to including Yoda and Palpatine who are among the strongest Force users. That's in all the movies and the cartoon series. Does the rest of the EU have Jedi/Sith throwing bigger objects around while in quick motion? I don't know, examples would be appreciated.

Also, wrong on the second fact. Per the OP it's explicitely Zero Mission Samus here who can survive the environment and more than one hit without her powersuit on as long as she has enough energy reserves as shown in the whole suitless sequence that game added .

As to the first, I've never seen anything explicitly said that a Force user cannot use the powers at the same time and at least in the Jedi Knight games I've certainly used Force Speed and Force Pull/Push/etc. at the same time. As far as examples where everything is spelled out nice and clear and you can't doubt that they didn't, I don't know. However we do know that say, Force Push and Force Speed can be used in rapid succession as Qui-gon and Obi Wan do this to the Trade Fed droids during their escape in Phantom Menace.

For the second, I'm afraid you're the one who's wrong. The Zero Suit is still part of the Chozo power suit technology, that's why you still use the energy tanks you picked up throughout the game to fuel its shield. Unfortunately it is nowhere near as tough as the power suit and so it takes a lot more energy to protect you while wearing it as compared to the power suit. You lose 100 (99 really) energy while in the Zero Suit (or 1 full energy tank) when you take damage from the red Space Pirates while in the fully upgraded power suit you take 50 damage. Once all that energy is gone, Samus dies.

As I already said per the OP it's endgame Zero Mission Samus, her beam is therefore stacked with everything available, Charge, Spazer, Plasma, Wave and Ice. What makes you think it would conveniently converge upon Vader's blade as lightning? Outside of lightning lightsabers are never shown to soak any energy, just reflect it and there's more to Samus' stacked beam than the average blaster bolt.

The available combination as of the end of Zero Mission is Charge+Long+Wave+Ice+Plasma. Just because that is there doesn't mean that's what she'd be using. In the hypothetical I stated I had her just equip Ice so she can use her power bomb combo. Really though it doesn't matter, the combined beam fires three bolts of energy that criss-cross into each other. Whether they would converge on the blade or not is no longer an issue since there is always a moment during their flight where their paths are one and the same. As to the nature of difference weapons and lightsabers, it's already been pointed out that powerfull Jedi and Sith have handled vehicle grade weapons. However, those were all still some variant on the standard laser/turbolaser so here are 2 others:
1) Ssi-Ruuk paddle beamers - the beam bends around the saber and can be deflected by a skilled lightsaber user.
2) Chiss masers - the saber is able to block the bolt, but risks the saber being ripped from their grip.
So, 2 different weapons than the standard laser/turbolaser with 2 different reactions to the saber, but the end result is that they are energy weapons and the saber offers protection from them.

Also, just FYI, the Wide beam doesn't converge on the target (all three beams can hit 3 different targets) while the Spazer beam does converge on the target (if 1 beam hits, and the other 2 don't they still disappear and the target takes full damage). I'm afraid I haven't tested the Plasma beam in Super yet for how that one performs.

Imagine turning a legion of Samus Aran Power Suited (at full power) Stormtroopers lose on a rebel base.

Keep in mind, that power suit does require the Chozo modifications to Samus to be present. They'd need to replicate those along with the technology behind the armor itself. Also, Samus is no longer weak against Ice weapons by the end of Fusion and the Gold Torizo can catch Samus' super missiles (it dodges regular missiles) and throw them back at her as well.

In the end, as Solauren, Thanas and Napoleon the Clown have all said, this ends poorly for Samus thanks to Vader having the Force. Now if we say that thanks to the Metroid DNA in her (if we're saying this is at Fusion) or she happened to have a pet baby ysalamiri, she was protected from having Force powers effect her this actually becomes a fight she can win. Otherwise, Vader just kills her, or possibly disables her, with the Force and gets the victory. It really depends on the level of threat she gives off to Vader and whether or not he considers it worth it to keep her alive to study her or not.