What good is the truth?

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would you really want to trust a disinterested god in your immortality?
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Ok. Just kill 'em all, then. :P
...This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old...ultraviolence.
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you first.
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*GAKK* *GARGLE* *HURK (HURK?)*


*Leaves behind a virus bomb set to a strap on my wrist set to go off after my pulse stops*
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-closes door, locks-

no problem.
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*Leaves behind a virus bomb set to a strap on my wrist set to go off after my pulse stops*
If you had that possibility, and if you were assured that your deadman switch would be a secret until your death (no pesky FBI agents there to stop you) , would you really do it?

It takes only five minutes to destroy what took a hundred years to build...
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I locked the door!

we are safe. 8)
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But what a way to go out, eh? Assuming some people do survive, your name and memory of your deed could live on for centuries, millenia even! Your name would be a venomous curse upon the lips of mankind for untold ages!
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It depends on my mood at the time, Enricko. Most of the time I have hope for mankind, but sometimes I find myself seriously contemplating whether or not I'd press the horrible doomsday button and kill off all the fucking pigs who disquise themselves as humanity. It would be so beautifully deserving...

Cthulhu-chan: how would they know I was the one who did it? The "bomb" I speak of may just be some kind of canister hissing out virii. Maybe thier dead souls would thank me for freeing them.
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Id rather save the world, and be worshipped by beautiful chicks. it would be an awesome retirement.
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The problem with ex-Christians is that they often cast about aimlessly in search for some kind of drop-in replacement and become severely depressed if they can't find one.

My suggestion is to start looking for ways to find a sense of fulfillment and self-worth that don't rely upon the egotistical notion that you are so damned important that you will live forever and be specially loved by forces as grand as those which shape the vastness of the universe.
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Jesus loves you too, Wong. :roll:
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HemlockGrey wrote:Jesus loves you too, Wong. :roll:
Nobody was talking to you, jack-ass. When the subject of a thread is how to live without that belief system, spouting your belief in it is pointless and stupid.
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Oh shit, I'm sorry. I posted the wrong smiley. :oops:

I meant to use the :P smiley.
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Darth Wong wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Jesus loves you too, Wong. :roll:
Nobody was talking to you, jack-ass. When the subject of a thread is how to live without that belief system, spouting your belief in it is pointless and stupid.
Oh shit, I'm sorry. I posted the wrong smiley. :oops:

I meant to use the :P smiley.
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why cant the exchristians just fulfill themselves with sex? :)
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kojikun wrote:why cant the exchristians just fulfill themselves with sex? :)
Where and how do they get sex? They don't have the needed skills for the standard seduction approach and will probably resort to rape or porn for the rest of their life!
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right, that makes me want to go nip off and shoot myself.
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If you're a Christian and you intend to turn non-Christian, take your pivot off of God and put it onto yourself.


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Read what Kaz, Dalton, Enricko, and DW said again and again; their words are very wise.

And yeah, life can suck big donkey dicks -- trust me, I know -- but in my darkest hours, I always come back to the same conclusion: life is better than the alternative.

Too, regardless of matters of faith, happiness and contentment are prizes, not gifts. In other less concise words, whether or not God is your co-pilot, whether or not you spell truth with a big T or little t, the good life is hard work.

One last thought: beauty exists in the same reality in which we submit ourselves to pain and anguish.
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Re: What good is the truth?

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SWPIGWANG wrote:What good is the 'truth' if it tells you that you are born worthless, without real choice in this world, and will die. What good is the truth when it tells you are insignificant, easily forgotten and not special. What good is all that.

I hate being merely a biological process... :(
Well, if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we don't go around calling it a german shepherd, do we? No! We call a duck a friggin' duck.

Yes, you're just a lump of interesting organic chemistry going on in a water catalyst. And, you happen to have developed because entropy tends to a maximum and life is much more efficient at turning useful energy into waste heat than anything else.

Yet, while you're fulfilling your ultimate purpose in contributing to the heat-death of the universe, it is important not to linger too long on that thought. It's the truth, you can't do anything about it. Move on, there are many things to contend with in life without worrying about the foundation it's built on.

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Which is to say, don't worry about the things you can't change, and maximize the good that can come out of the things you can.
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Post by Shinova »

Here's a small, outlandish suggestion:


If you hate the purpose you serve in this foundation of existence, strive to transcend it. :wink:
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