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Without cutting out the male testes

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OTTAWA — For decades it’s been impossible to make most frogs breed in captivity, no matter how urgent the need for the most endangered types.

But now a University of Ottawa biologist has found a simple hormone trick that works on every frog species he’s tried it on, from here to Argentina.

It’s a brain hormone, not a sex hormone — which doesn’t stop his colleagues from talking about “Vance’s Love Potion.”

Professor Vance Trudeau doesn’t mind the name.

The potion is opening up new ways to study frogs, and to help them survive the worldwide losses of amphibians (frogs, toads, salamanders) of nearly all types.

“Can we start thinking about captive breeding on a large scale?” the biologist wonders.

The trouble has been that putting frogs in a tank somehow stops their normal cycle of releasing and fertilizing eggs.

“You may get a few croaks here and there and a little bit of play but they won’t lay eggs.”

He got the hormone idea partly from his own work years ago in fish, where a similar method is well known.

“I just thought about it for nine or 10 years and finally got around to doing it (in frogs).

“It’s like when you go for in vitro fertilization, and the woman is super-ovulated (with drugs that make her release extra eggs cells), and then you collect the eggs.”

The method keeps working. Recently, he injected leopard frogs (a common Ontario species) in late February when all frogs in the wild are frozen in mud at the bottom of a pond. The eggs came about five days later, followed by tadpoles and now “metamorphs” — juvenile frogs that still have tadpole tails.

This is only the second time on record that someone has bred the little green leopards indoors. And Trudeau did it both times.

“That leads into what Environment Canada has been trying to do in Moncton, which is to develop a captive breeding colony. They can do all the growing there, but they didn’t know how to breed them. So that’s where I come in.

“We’ve now applied this method to quite a few different species.”

He’s done batches of green frogs (another common species) and Oregon spotted frogs, so rare that they survive in just three British Columbia ponds, plus a few sites in the northwest United States.

Frogs in Argentina and Australia are hopping around because he helped scientists breed them there.

These are not sex hormones, he said. Those would shut down breeding just like birth control pills.

Instead, these are hormones from the brain and the pituitary gland which cause the animal to release sperm or eggs.

“You’re asking the animal to release its own (reproductive) hormones . . . You inject both (sexes) at the same time and just throw them together,” he said.

It will take further study in wild conditions to make sure that the offspring are healthy and act like normal frogs, but the early indications are good.

But Trudeau is optimistic that captive breeding will work, and help boost many frog populations.

“I think we can do it. If they were a food item, we’d be growing them like crazy.”

At the Vancouver Aquarium, where the Oregon spotted frogs are raised, Dennis Thoney say the Trudeau “hormone cocktail” isn’t the only tool for breeding but it’s a useful one.

It makes all the frogs breed at once, instead of spreading the egg-laying over weeks. He hopes to use the technique on another endangered frog species this year.

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Ok. The implications of this are huge. Most amphibians will not breed under secure captive conditions. Bullfrogs you can generally get to breed in outdoor enclosures, but they are not of conservation concern. Where this is useful, is in the raising of common lab amphibians like leopard frogs, and species of conservation concern.

Most frogs require very specific conditions under which they will breed. Humidity, atmospheric pressure, days since rainfall etc. For most species, these conditions are not at all well known, and part of my dissertation is actually an attempt to develop a predictive quantitative model for the species in my regional species pool. Of the species which are endangered worldwide, this is the case for most of them, foiling any attempts at captive breeding. There has been some success with tropical explosive breeders, because all you need to do is get them in a well planted shower, but for most of the hyper-specialist tropical species, or any temperate species, there has been very little breeding success... unless you were willing to cut out the testicles of the males (they are in the body cavity, this requires killing an animal), induce ovulation through brute hormonal force in the females, physically squeeze our her eggs to artificially fertilize said eggs, and then still have low success rates.

This will permit us to successfully breed critically endangered salamander species (like Hellbenders and Iranian Newts, if the formulation can be tweaked to be appropriate), and... pretty much all of the tropical species which are being ravaged by Chytrid Fungus, allowing both re-population, and facilitating the research that will be necessary to treat the disease and wipe it out under field conditions.

This is about as optimistic as you will ever see me.
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So in short, this allows us to almost eradicate the possibility of extinction for these creatures, if it works?
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Thought this had been posted before? Maybe I read it somewhere else.

But yes, an excellent breakthrough in potential to bring endangered species back, and potentially at large scale too. Another win for science and technological progress.
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Why don't they usualy breed in captivity?
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Good news, even if we can't save all them in the wild we can at least ensure that they breed and the lineage is maintained.
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koputusx wrote:Why don't they usualy breed in captivity?
Most frogs require very specific conditions under which they will breed. Humidity, atmospheric pressure, days since rainfall etc. For most species, these conditions are not at all well known,
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Singular Intellect wrote:Thought this had been posted before? Maybe I read it somewhere else.

But yes, an excellent breakthrough in potential to bring endangered species back, and potentially at large scale too. Another win for science and technological progress.
Scale will always be a problem, the other is finding enough individuals to ensure inbreeding. The genus Atelopus for example, is probably not saveable, because chytrid has wiped their populations near-clean. You also STILL have the husbandry issues, and the issues with disease in very large colonies. But, the physically getting them to breed hurtle is overcome.
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I hadn't realized that most species won't breed in captivity-I have some African dwarf frogs in my community freshwater tank, and they mate on a somewhat regular basis. I don't get eggs, but that's more a function of the fact the eggs are generally eaten before I can ever find them rather than they're not laid-my two females do plump up now and again. I've read up on how to get them to breed in captivity, apparently it's pretty easy to do with the species. My grow out tank is just never empty when I've caught the frogs in the act. I guess they're the exception rather than the rule. Is that because they're entirely aquatic or is there another reason entirely, AD?

In any event, fantastic news.
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I hadn't realized that most species won't breed in captivity-I have some African dwarf frogs in my community freshwater tank, and they mate on a somewhat regular basis. I don't get eggs, but that's more a function of the fact the eggs are generally eaten before I can ever find them rather than they're not laid-my two females do plump up now and again. I've read up on how to get them to breed in captivity, apparently it's pretty easy to do with the species. My grow out tank is just never empty when I've caught the frogs in the act. I guess they're the exception rather than the rule. Is that because they're entirely aquatic or is there another reason entirely, AD?

In any event, fantastic news.
Pipids are just weird. Human gonadotropins work with them for example. Their endocrinology is just much simpler, and they tend to live in fairly stable environments, so they will breed "whenever". Most amphibians are not at all like that, and are tied to mating cues which signal environmental conditions which are optimal for their tadpoles.
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I hadn't considered that, but I guess you've got a good point there-the conditions in my fish tank, for example, never ever change more than slightly in terms of temperature, pH, and the like, and it hadn't occurred to me that it's so incredibly similar in terms of stability in nature. I guess that's again due to their aquatic habitat. That's really interesting, that creating an environment that's 'too good' for the frogs in a sense is a roadblock in getting them to breed in captivity.
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Slacker wrote:I hadn't considered that, but I guess you've got a good point there-the conditions in my fish tank, for example, never ever change more than slightly in terms of temperature, pH, and the like, and it hadn't occurred to me that it's so incredibly similar in terms of stability in nature. I guess that's again due to their aquatic habitat. That's really interesting, that creating an environment that's 'too good' for the frogs in a sense is a roadblock in getting them to breed in captivity.
exactly. Think about a common temperate species. Hyla versicolor. In texas they breed during warm rains in late spring and early summer. They hibernate first, which is required to get them to breed. They need to come out of hibernation and stay that way for some unknown amount of time. Think of this as a signal to the frogs that it wont freeze over, killing their young. There is probably some unknown cue with humidity, temperature and atmospheric pressure that initiates oocyte and sperm maturation--because those are signals of impending rain. These frogs breed in vernal pools that dry up fast, to they have to breed right when it rains, and it has to be warm enough that tadpole development is accelerated, so they get out before the ponf dries. Then the rain has to happen within a certain amount of time, or the oocytes get re-absorbed. All of this makes it very difficult to breed them in captivity. Even if you can replicate all of this, the low level stress of being in captivity will prevent breeding.
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Whereas with dwarf water frogs, they're in pretty much identical, very clement conditions all year round.

Now that said, it really does seem like they breed primarily in the spring time-then again, so do the majority of my egg-laying fish-I do attribute that to slight changes in the amount of sunlight they get through the window, barometric pressure, and the like-but it's still a much easier process, in the sense one has to do absolutely nothing to make it happen. I really should try and breed them, now that I've had a good amount of success with corydoras aeneus, which is actually difficult in a community tank setup.

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That's cool, but what is the cause for the dwindling numbers? If it is their home environment being blown away by civilization or pollution or whatever, then you just have a bunch of frogs you cannot place anywhere without causing overpopulation and the related problems.
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Well, you can keep them in captivity until their environment is restored. There are actually a large number of species of fish kept domestically in the ornamental fish trade that have had their native environments completely destroyed because of human activity, but they're not even considered threatened because of the success of the ornamental fish trade. The Red Tail Shark would be the banner bearer in that regard, but there's a number of species like that in Africa and Asia. The Aquarium industry has actually really taken point in preserving species in that regard, starting with the African Rift Lake Cichlids in the '60s and '70s. You could see something similar happen here, as some species of amphibs, like African dwarf frogs, and firebelly newts, are already popular in the hobby.
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There are several species of birds, particularly parrots, that now exist in greater numbers in captivity than in the wild. Of course, there are complex issues involved with that, but likely in the near future some species of birds may no longer exist in the wild at all, but as zoo specimens and pets.

(Personally, I prefer my pets be domestically bred, of non-threatened species)
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someone_else wrote:That's cool, but what is the cause for the dwindling numbers? If it is their home environment being blown away by civilization or pollution or whatever, then you just have a bunch of frogs you cannot place anywhere without causing overpopulation and the related problems.
A combination of things. For most species, it is an exotic pathogen called Batrachochytridium dendrobates, a fungus that attacks the skin and suffocates them. That has eliminated many frogs in the upland tropics. It wipes out populations in pristine protected regions, and so far is beyond our ability to deal with under field conditions. Captive propagation is the only way we can save these species while we work on how to deal with the disease under field conditions, and figure out how it spreads so rapidly.
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Our boys here have been keeping an eyeball on this one. If you can reliably breed any animal, someone will eventually try to use that to create meat stock.
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Lagmonster wrote:Our boys here have been keeping an eyeball on this one. If you can reliably breed any animal, someone will eventually try to use that to create meat stock.
Which is silly, because the one frog that IS bred for that, Bullfrogs, are a massive ecological problem and asymptomatic carrier for chytrid, and are in fact factory farmed.
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The key word is try; any time someone comes up with the enterprising idea of doing something new to something that is food, as a department it's our job to look into it. Could be as you say that there's no market, and hence no need. Or even no problem. I'm just identifying how new ideas like this sometimes bump into more than just ecology.
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Yeah, you wouldn't ever think there would be a market for chicken wings, as they're mostly gristle and bone and skin and very little meat, but damn it's gotten trendy. I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with "NEW! Species X frogs! Better than bullfrog!" Even if it tastes like shit, slap some seasoned breading on it and make people think it's exotic and gourmet, voila! next stupid food trend.
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