UPDATE 1-NASA finds new evidence of liquid water on Mars

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UPDATE 1-NASA finds new evidence of liquid water on Mars

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UPDATE 1-NASA finds new evidence of liquid water on Mars
* Finger-like features extend down slopes, crater walls

* Water would be highly salty and lie beneath surface (Adds byline, temperature of Mars, other details, comments)

By Alex Dobuzinskis

LOS ANGELES, Aug 4 (Reuters) - NASA scientists have discovered new evidence that briny water flows on Mars during its warmest months, raising chances that life could exist on the Red Planet, the space agency said on Thursday.

NASA first found signs of water on Mars more than a decade ago, but earlier indications were that any existing water would be frozen and concentrated at the poles.

Recently analyzed images from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter satellite show dark, finger-like features that extend down some slopes and crater walls on the planet during its late spring through summer, fading in the Martian winter.

"This is the best evidence we have to date of a liquid water occurring today on Mars," said Philip Christensen, a geophysicist at Arizona State University, Tempe, in a NASA panel announcing the findings in Washington.

NASA scientists believe that if there is liquid water on Mars, it would be highly salty and lie beneath the surface. That would explain why it would not freeze in the planet's frigid surface temperatures, which can fall to around 200 degrees below zero Fahrenheit (minus 128 degrees Celsius), or evaporate in its low air pressure.

"It is more like a syrup, maybe, in how it flows," said Alfred McEwen of the University of Arizona, Tucson, principal investigator in charge of a special camera on the Mars orbiter called a High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment.

He also is the lead author of a report on evidence of water flows published on Thursday in the journal Science.

BETTER THAN ICE

The scientists on NASA's panel stressed that liquid water is more likely to sustain life than ice, underscoring the importance of the latest discovery.

Past NASA discoveries revealed evidence of ancient shorelines and riverbanks on Mars. And analysis of gullies on the Red Planet five years ago turned up fresh mineral deposits that suggested recent water flows, but provided no categorical proof of that, scientists said.

The latest discovery is more difficult to explain away as evidence of anything but contemporary water flows, said Michael Meyer, Mars exploration program lead scientist at NASA.

Another possibility to account for the periodic darkening in the areas under examination is dust moving along the surface of the planet, McEwen said. But dust avalanches would occur at more random intervals, rather than on a seasonal basis, he said.

Scientists on the panel said the latest imaging evidence of flowing water also suggests the existence of liquid water closer to the planet's equator than previously found.

Any liquid water would likely lie beneath the surface because the atmosphere on Mars is so thin that liquid water above ground would quickly evaporate, scientists said.

Some organisms on Earth thrive underground with little access to sunlight, and the same thing could be occurring on Mars, said Lisa Pratt, biogeochemist at Indiana University, Bloomington, and a participant on the NASA panel discussing the results on Thursday.

Pratt said further research is needed at the seven sites where recurring evidence of flowing water was found.

"It is our first chance to see an environment on Mars that might allow for the expression of an active biological process, if there is present-day life on Mars," she said. (Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis; Editing by Steve Gorman, Jerry Norton and Xavier Briand)

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Re: UPDATE 1-NASA finds new evidence of liquid water on Mars

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I'd be pretty impressed by any life you could find in a brine that thick. I mean, if it "flows like syrup..." just how supersaturated would that have to be?
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I don't know. Lake Assal in Djibouti is teeming with bacterial life. The salinity there is around 350 practical salinity units, as near as I can tell.

Vikings have measured temperatures as low as -100C (and as high as -10C), near the depths of the atmosphere but probably not at the absolute bottom. This freezing point calculator suggests a PSU of 650 would be required to not freeze at -100C; I don't know how often (or how long-term) such low temperatures are.

One might imagine life that could survive irregular (or even regular) freezing of the lake, and thus might be able to live in water that froze at (say) -70C. At that point, we're talking about a PSU of about 550, less than that of Don Juan Pond in Antarctica (about 18*35 = 630). So far as I'm aware, no life has been discovered in Don Juan Pond.

(PSU conversions presented are very rough at best and might well be head-in-ass incorrect)
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Re: UPDATE 1-NASA finds new evidence of liquid water on Mars

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I would not be shocked if some hardy bacteria was found alive on Mars. Earth and Mars have been trading rocks for billions of years, all it would prove is that (again) X lifeform can survive under extreme conditions.
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