BEDFORD, N.H. (AP) — GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry told New Hampshire voters Wednesday that he does not believe in manmade global warming, calling it a scientific theory that has not been proven.
"I think we're seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists that are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change," the Texas governor said on the first stop of a two-day trip to the first-in-the-nation primary state.
He said some want billions or trillions of taxpayer dollars spent to address the issue, but he added: "I don't think from my perspective that I want to be engaged in spending that much money on still a scientific theory that has not been proven and from my perspective is more and more being put into question."
His comments came at a packed breakfast meeting with local business leaders in a region known for its strong environmental policies. And he made his global warming comment in response to a question by an audience member who cited evidence from the National Academy of Sciences.
But Perry's opinion runs counter to the view held by an overwhelming majority of scientists that pollution released from the burning of fossil fuels is heating up the planet. Perry's home state of Texas releases more heat-trapping pollution carbon dioxide — the chief greenhouse gas — than any other state in the country, according to government data.
Global warming has become an issue for contenders for the Republican nomination to run away from, since many conservatives question overwhelming evidence showing climate change is happening and the big government solutions to stem it.
Jon Huntsman, Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney — who all at one point supported steps to curb global warming pollution — have since tempered their stances. But unlike Perry, both Romney and Huntsman acknowledge the scientific evidence.
On Wednesday, Perry promised to return regularly to a state that was not kind to a past Texas governor; Arizona Sen. John McCain upset GOP frontrunner and former Texas Gov. George W. Bush here in the 2000 presidential primary.
For many New Hampshire voters, Wednesday offered their first close look at the longtime Texas politician, who formally launched his White House bid over the weekend.
At the breakfast, Perry also questioned the loyalty of the Federal Reserve, just days after saying that if the Federal Reserve puts more money in the U.S. system, it could be considered a treasonous act that would be treated "pretty ugly" back home.
He noted the criticism he took for the comment, but did not back away from them. And he called on the institution to open its books.
"It would go a long way toward either finding out whether or not there is some activities that are improper of that they've been handling themselves quite well," he said. "But until they do that, I think there will continue to be questions about their activity and what their true goal is for the United States."
Perry also said he would not have signed the debt-ceiling compromise brokered by congressional leaders and the White House to avoid a national default.
"No I would not have signed it," he said. "We got to quit spending money."
Perry was meeting with more business leaders Wednesday before touring the seacoast region Thursday.
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Dina Cappiello contributed to this report from Washington.
To be honest, I would have been shocked if he did not deny global warming. He seems like a bog-standard right-wing fundie. Can anyone find any examples of him not slavishly following the right-wing party line?
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Darth Wong wrote:To be honest, I would have been shocked if he did not deny global warming. He seems like a bog-standard right-wing fundie. Can anyone find any examples of him not slavishly following the right-wing party line?
No. The motherfucker directed the state to sue the EPA for trying to regulate CO2 emissions.
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Darth Wong wrote:To be honest, I would have been shocked if he did not deny global warming. He seems like a bog-standard right-wing fundie. Can anyone find any examples of him not slavishly following the right-wing party line?
No. The motherfucker directed the state to sue the EPA for trying to regulate CO2 emissions.
That single sentence just told me everything I need to know about this twat.
What was Bush's stance on such matters, anyway? I was a bit young to take notice of what he was saying exactly, just old enough to look at the screen and realise 'this man is a buffoon'. Perry seems even more right-wing than him to me.
Yeah, I've always taken the subtext of the Birther movement to be, "The rules don't count here! This is different! HE'S BLACK! BLACK, I SAY! ARE YOU ALL BLIND!?
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That's not the only thing he doesn't believe in. He also doesn't believe in separation of Church and State, the Theory of Evolution or similar fun things. He's a dyed in the wool fundamentalist.
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Lord Zentei wrote:That's not the only thing he doesn't believe in. He also doesn't believe in separation of Church and State, the Theory of Evolution or similar fun things. He's a dyed in the wool fundamentalist.
Oh deary me. Why must America play this constant game of two steps forward, one step back with its politicians? I can guess his stance on stem-cell research
Yeah, I've always taken the subtext of the Birther movement to be, "The rules don't count here! This is different! HE'S BLACK! BLACK, I SAY! ARE YOU ALL BLIND!?
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These are positons that should be broadcast over and over, yet you hear nothing but silance (for the most part) on most News channels.
What is the most (or perhaps not) surprsing is that his views are more and more "mainstream" in the Right Wing, as opposed to being on the "fringe". At this point, he is going to have to out crazy Michele Bachmann to capture the attention of the base currently, and he is well on his way to doing that.
As Wong said earlier, these positions should not surprise people, they are in fact NEEDED for a candidate in the Right 'mainstream'.
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That doesn't seem quite as bad as Bush then, admittedly.
Yeah, I've always taken the subtext of the Birther movement to be, "The rules don't count here! This is different! HE'S BLACK! BLACK, I SAY! ARE YOU ALL BLIND!?
- Raw Shark
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Bush wasn't against adult stem cell research, IIRC.
Moreover, Bush wasn't a secessionist, and as far as I'm aware he never claimed Medicare or SS were unconstitutional.
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Darth Wong wrote:To be honest, I would have been shocked if he did not deny global warming. He seems like a bog-standard right-wing fundie. Can anyone find any examples of him not slavishly following the right-wing party line?
He signed an executive order requiring HPV vaccination for middle school girls?
He had to later express public regret, though.
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Does anyone think this guy is going to be a serious contender? I hope to hell not, because I don't think the US can survive another Texan neocon fundie president.
The Vortex Empire: I think the real question is obviously how a supervolcano eruption wiping out vast swathes of the country would affect the 2016 election. Borgholio: The GOP would blame Obama and use the subsequent nuclear winter to debunk global warming.
Darth Wong wrote:To be honest, I would have been shocked if he did not deny global warming. He seems like a bog-standard right-wing fundie. Can anyone find any examples of him not slavishly following the right-wing party line?
He signed an executive order requiring HPV vaccination for middle school girls?
He had to later express public regret, though.
Yup, although as my aunt likes to say (she runs a teen sexual health organization in Texas) the only group which gives more to Rick Perry's campaign than the religious right was big pharma.
I think Robert Higgs puts it best: "I pay little attention to electoral politicking; at my age, I've heard enough horseshit to last a lifetime. So correct me if I'm wrong, but casual observation leads me to conclude that Rick Perry is a petroleum product of some sort. In a contest between Perry and Romney, it would be plastic versus plastic. What a choice!"
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The first link says that Perry had almost no involvement in the decision and appeared to sign something he was barely familiar with because he was under the impression that conservative groups would like it, and the second link says that Perry walked away from it as soon as the public caught wind of it. Taken together, this appears like a fairly weak example of Perry not following the bog-standard right-wing line
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
The first link says that Perry had almost no involvement in the decision and appeared to sign something he was barely familiar with because he was under the impression that conservative groups would like it, and the second link says that Perry walked away from it as soon as the public caught wind of it. Taken together, this appears like a fairly weak example of Perry not following the bog-standard right-wing line
Well, given how bog-standard right-wing he is, you'd kind of expect any examples of him not following the party line to be weak.
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Flagg wrote:He also doesn't believe in evolution and sounds like a YEC. So overall this guy scares me because the media is pushing him hard.
His campaign is (officially) less than a week old. He's going to have months of scrutiny ahead of him on a level that even he, a three-term governor, has never experienced before. The man has serious warts, and the close-up will not be kind.
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