Imperial Armour IX - The Badab War, part 1 - Analysis

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Imperial Armour IX - The Badab War, part 1 - Analysis

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At the risk of stealing Connor MacLeod's thunder, I thought I'd try my hand at Warhammer 40000 analysis. The choice for me was obvious, the Badab War duology being my favourites out of the series thus far.

So, without further ado;

Page 9-10
The (Maelstrom Zone) was and remains a vast sweep of wilderness space located galactic west/south-west/south of the Maelstrom itself using the standard form. The vast span of void space dwarfs many Imperial sectors in size, containing over a thousand observed star systems and in truth was never more than a cartographical and administrative division, and not by any means a truly coherent realm.

Astrogation in the Imperium is done using three galactical cardinal points. Also, most Imperial sectors contain considerably less than a thousand observed systems.

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The worlds of the zone, often originally rogues and exiles from the Galactic Core expelled in ages past by effects both natural and unnatural, are a fountainhead of many rare minerals, isotopes and crystalline deposits all but unknown further from the Galactic Centre, and seldom so accessible. It is this wealth that has drawn mankind to the zone time and again despite its manifold hazards and difficulties, and indeed their is ready evidence of humanity's presence in the region as far back as the Dark Age of Technology.
Why the Imperium bothers with such a dangerous and troublesome region of space. An interesting point about planets being moved by unnatural means.
Slowly, during the 38th and 39th millenia, several important Imperial outposts within the Maelstrom Zone rose to prominence and strength within the region. This handful of vital worlds formed the links in a distant chain that allowed the resources of the Maelstrom Zone to flow from its hazardous depths into the coffers of more established sectors beyond the stellar arm. The three most important links in this chain were the star systems of Cygnax, Sagan, and Badab, each an island of Imperial civilisation in this anarchic sea.
A little background on the political and economic situation. No doubt Badab's importance laid the foundations for subsequent events.

Page 10-11
Located near the dense stellar masses of the Galactic Core in a near linear path between the Core and Holy Terra, the Maelstrom covers an area many hundreds of Light Years across, and its presence in space is marked by a vast, slowly turning gyre comprised of nebulae, dust and stellar material in which countless stars and worlds have long been lost.
Interesting information on the physical makeup of the Maelstrom. Evidently it is somewhat different from the Eye of Terror, which is generally described as a roiling mass of raw magic and nastiness. It seems fair to say that the proverbial veil is rather thin in the Maelstrom. That particular section goes on to mention to presence of Psycheneuein, and that there are around twenty major Ork infestations and pirate kingdoms in the Maelstrom. The presence of Orks implies that they are either highly resistant to the ill-effects of the Warp, or else the leakage is not enough to affect them.

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Backed by the intervention of the dread Chaos Space Marine warband known as the Reborn, the planet rapidly fell into bloody civil war between the Imperial garrison and death cult nihilists who swelled up from the deep hive sinks in their tens of thousands, indiscriminately killing and raising entire city districts heedless of the consequences. Despite the intervention of the Mantis Warriors Space Marine Chapter, which itself had made a home in the nearby Endymion Cluster, the death toll rose swiftly into the millions. Unchecked the death cultists gained access to part of the defence missile silo network, and in a suicidal rage unleashed a rain of atomic and plasma warheads which shattered its hive cities and succeeded in disrupting the planet's orbit for several years. The reuslting permanent winter, radioactive fallout and tectonic upheavals annihilated all life on Cygnax.
An uprising in the tens of thousands, with Chaos Space Marine backup, was more than a hive world's garrison could manage, even with loyal Space Marine assistance. Then again, considering that Necromundan gangs can get access to large amounts of military-grade firepower, including anti-vehicle weapons, it isn't all that strange. It would be even less strange if the Reborn or other interested parties had been providing the cultists with organisation and training for an extended period beforehand. Considering that hiveworlds tend to have populations in the double-digit billions, the numbers are rather small, suggesting that the uprising was more like an insurgency or limited to a relatively small area. That they controlled only a part of the defence network can be taken as further evidence of a small-scale affair. As for the missile firepower, a portion of the planetary defence arsenal not only caused a nuclear winter and significant tectonic disturbance, but actually succeeded in shifting the planet's orbit.

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In 4 512 718.M41 a failed palace coup on Badab Primaris led to an abortive civil war on the hive world, and the Astral Claws setepped in and brutally crushed the conflict. In the aftermath, elements behind the coup were revealled under interrogation to have connections to raiders and off-world smuggling rings, which they had used as a source of arms and tainted drugs to fuel the failed uprising. The matter was then brought before Lugft Huron for judgement as riots and petty revolts began to flare up once more across the planet. Lugft Huron, outraged that such a betrayal could fester behind his back, and mindful of the lesson of Cygnax, resolved to take matters in hand personally. The Space Marines of the Astral Claws swiftly re-imposed order once more on Badab Primaris, this time employing shattering force and executing much of the planet's ruling class, as well as purging its hives of anyone they percieved as morally recidivist. Lufgt Huron took on the mantle of planetary ruler as well. Styling himself the 'Tyrant of Badab', he claimed the Badab sector (the cluster of inhabited worlds in proximity to the relatively hospitable region of void around the Badab system) as his Chapter fiefdom, "To better protect these worlds and those souls that dwell upon them in the glory of the Emperor," echoing in his pronouncement the example and precedents of the sovereign realm of Ultramar and the Warder's charter.


So it begins. Interesting that Huron should use the Realm of Ultramar as a precedent for his (at that point probably well-intentioned) power grab. I doubt he was the first or the last.

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The wholesale purging of the ruling elites of the nearby systems soon followed and in the decades afterward, a number of Astral Claws 'watch bastions' were established, while Huron's chosen servants and political allies were placed in positions of power, effectively turning the Badab sector into a pocket empire at the command of the Astral Claws. Huron's power was further cemented by the creation of what became known as 'the Tyrant's Legion' in a massive reorganisation of the uneven and often isolationist native planetary defence forces in the region. These forces now followed a standard dictated by Huron as well as a unified command structure. Astral Claws detachments were assigned to further their training to purge them of weak elements. By 790 M41 the defence of the Badab sector was stronger than at any point in its history, the Tyrant's Legion's worth proved in the repulsion of separate corsair raids on Decabalus and Mynestra Station.

Huron tightens his grip. It would seem that organisation on a sector-wide basis can greatly improve a sector's ability to defend itself. A Space Marine chapter is not to be sneezed at either.
After further requests to redistribute resources from the Maelstrom Zone were denied, Huron withheld Badab Primaris' planetary tithe to the Administratum and futher blocked the passage of trade through his realms in protest over the Adepta's failure to provide him and his allies with sufficient resources to police the Maelstrom. This had a double effect as much of Badab's output was actually made up through the refinement of ores and crystals garnered from the scattered mining outposts of the Pale Stars region of the Maelstrom. Additionally, as the main viable Warp routes in the area passed through Badab Primaris, the bulk of the supply of minerals from this vital region had been cut off as well.

The Tyrant of Badab couched this refusal in the terms of the Astral Claws' role as defenders of the Maelstrom Zone, diverting the industrial resource and manpower he commandeered to directly supplement the Badab Sector's defences as well as augment the Maelstrom Fleet detachment and fortify key worlds under his purview. In the Badab system this was manifested as a massive increase in space-based defences encircling the outer and inner spheres in a 'Ring of Steel.' While on Badab Primaris, Lugft Huron ordered demolished the ancient citadel of the ruling dominars and instead erected what was to become the legendary, hugely fortified 'Palace of Thorns' to his own specifications and design.

The ongoing political situation was cause for heated controversy and bitter argument within the Adeptus Terra and the Segmentum Courts Temporal over broken charters and contracts. At its crux was a fault line that had long slept beneath the rigid structure of Imperial Law; the clashing entitlement of the Administratum to the Imperial tithe and the ancient rights of Astartes commanders to defend the Imperium by any means necessary. This furore became swiftly known to observers as the Badab Schism, and would last for more than a century and a half, during which the military operations of the Astral Claws and the Maelstrom Warders were to carry on as usual against a backdrop of worsening tensions with the Administratum and Segmentum authorities.
This is probably why Astartes chapters are generally not allowed to start their own empires. I get the impression Terra would have been more sympathetic if Huron did not insist on mucking up the Segmentum economy just so he can build himself a new palace. This situation does show that Astartes chapters are very much a part of the Imperium's power structure, in contrast to some portrayals in which they are totally cloistered and aloof.

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The Tyrant at Bay
Court records from this period picture Lugft Huron as uncharacteristically taciturn and withdrawn on his return from the Maelstrom, either locking himself away in the Chapter's archives for days on end and refusing to see anyone, or keeping long silent vigils alone in the Fortress-Monastery's Panopticon-Solar, gazing unblinking for hours at holospheres depicting the breadth of the Maelstrom Zone and the baleful vortex that dominated its stars. Some observers have gone on to say that it was during this time that Lugft Huron fell from grace; that denied again the goals he had spent his life fighting for; to see his ultimate glory snatched from his hands at the last by those he should call master and ally unhinged him, or that he gave in to hubris and false pride. Some have gone so far as to suggest that during the Crusade of Wrath, deep within the nightmarish vortex of the Maelstrom some strange taint, alien or warp-whispered, wormed its way into his heart. But this perhaps is too simple and unlikely an answer, and it is just as likely that the darkness in Lugft Huron's soul was no more or less than the same empyrean fire that called him to greatness and made him such an effective and innovative warrior, as so many of his once-brother Space Marines were to soon find out to their cost.
One would think they would know the signs by now. One would also think they would know better than to spend extended periods inside a warp rift. Then again, it didn't do Uriel Ventris much harm. A nice little philosophical musing there, that the qualities that can make someone a hero can also make them a villain.
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Just so we're clear.. you're not stealing my thunder. Its going to be ages since I get to this at the rate I go, so others are free to cover stuff like this if they want. Hell people can post their own analysis of stuff I'm doing now, or whatever. I'm not going to be bothered if my work is inspiring similar stuff. Analysis works better when it is more than just one voice doing it anyhow.
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Hey, you can't knock-off Connor, I was knocking offf Connor first. :)

Seriously though, welcome. Good start to. Considering the consequences and ramifications is what makes posting analysis different from copying and pasting the material, and you're doing just fine.
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Ahriman238 wrote:Hey, you can't knock-off Connor, I was knocking offf Connor first. :)

Seriously though, welcome. Good start to. Considering the consequences and ramifications is what makes posting analysis different from copying and pasting the material, and you're doing just fine.
Speaking of which I was wondering if you were going to continue doing your HH stuff? We really need to get more people doing this, because it would encourage more feedback and discussion and generally promotes a better approach to these sorts of things.

Of course I havne't posted my lasgun analysis thread stuff yet either, I was going to do that. :P
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Connor MacLeod wrote:Just so we're clear.. you're not stealing my thunder. Its going to be ages since I get to this at the rate I go, so others are free to cover stuff like this if they want. Hell people can post their own analysis of stuff I'm doing now, or whatever. I'm not going to be bothered if my work is inspiring similar stuff. Analysis works better when it is more than just one voice doing it anyhow.
Glad to hear it. I've always enjoyed your analyses, and have thought about doing one for a while.
Ahriman238 wrote:Hey, you can't knock-off Connor, I was knocking offf Connor first. :)

Seriously though, welcome. Good start to. Considering the consequences and ramifications is what makes posting analysis different from copying and pasting the material, and you're doing just fine.
Thank you for your kind words. This may take some doing, though. They're quite hefty and detailed.

A bit of brief explanation before I get onto the next bit. The first to respond to Huron's takeover were the Karthan Lords, rulers of the neighbouring Kathargo sector. Being cut off by Huron appears to have left them unable to pay their own tithes, part of a wider knock-on effect that is drawing the attention of people who make the International Monetary Fund look like Mr Fezziwig. In the Imperium if you annoy the taxman, the blue chair is the least of your worries.

Chapter Two - The Shadows of War

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With preliminary judgements into the Badab Schism in the Segmentum Courts Temporal weighing in the Administratum's favour, the Karthans and their allies within the Administratum seized their chance to act. In 901.M41, an Imperial investigation fleet commanded by an Administratum Assayer General and carrying representatives of the Adeptus Mechanicus Biologis Invigilia, the Lords of the Kathargo Sector and at least one independantly operating Inquisitor was assembled. The force was despatched to Badab to demand the immediate delivery of the Badab tithe, commandeered resources, and Astral Claws gene-seed requirement. The fleet was made up of several huge mass-conveyers with expectation of a harvest of wealth, and spearheaded by a trinity of cruisers, a Cult Mechanicus locus-caravel and a score of lesser escort craft. The force, no doubt calculated to to display the power and authority of the mission and carry a not so veiled threat into the heart of the Tyrant's domains could be seen as a misjudged plan, but few could have foreseen what would happen next.


Three cruisers and twenty escorts is not a fleet to be sneezed-at, but unquestionably insufficient against an Astartes fleet, even without the defences waiting for them at Badab. All the same, Huron seems to have made some powerful enemies. This will not end well.
Communications fragment recovered by aetheric auspex sweep
01/0345/928.M41 - Listening Station Angstrom/E235

**Fragment begins**
[Badab Defence Control] "Tithe Fleet VX542/11 this is your final warning. Decrease thruster burn and heave to the designated approach - you will be fired upon."

[Ident: Administratum Barque Quaise-Lambda] " This investigation deputation carries the seals of the Adeptus Terra; it is you who will comply! Make obeisance and stand down your weapons immediately in the name of Him on Terra!"

[Badab Defence Control] "Damn you, obey! I don't care if you're carrying Saint Leor's bones; no vessel enters the Ring of Steel without first submitting to inquiry and piloting. This is the Maelstrom Zone, not some safe-haven quill-pusher's enclave!"

***Static interrupts, vox distortion consistent with high energy weapons fire***

[Unconfirmed source/likely a Badab System defence frigate] "Heavy damage sustained to port engines, decks seven through eleven open to void, casualties high. Assailants unidentified, eighteen-plus vessels now burning. Primary Quadrant autonomous battle systems registering full activation, Omega locks disengaged, four-thousand assassin mines awakening, Gargoyle platforms Anima and Epsilon reaching terminal power. By the Tyrant shall we attempt abort? Confirm? Confirm? Confirm? Con..."

***Fragment ends***
It just goes to show, being a dick does not pay every time. Barring an unseen provocateur, it would appear that the tithe fleet fired first, firing enough to significantly damage eighteen or more ships. That the (primarily automated) defences did not activate until after this happened suggests that Badab was not trying to pick a fight. Then again, we don't know whether Huron was actually in command at the time, considering his behaviour as described earlier. The tithe fleet is described as having been totally destroyed, with a death toll of 20,000.

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Claim and counter-claim ensured in the aftermath as to how this tragic destruction had occurred, and Lugft Huron, delivering his own dominion's report on the Badab matter to the Segmentum authorities, was adamant that the fleet was fired upon for refusing to give way to the just authority of the system's masters, paying for their transgressions with their lives as mandated by Imperial law. Meanwhile, outrage at the incident in the Kathargo sector quickly became widespread, and general uproar was evidenced throughout the sector's ruling elites at the 'Barbarians' of the Maelstrom Zone, and soon such trade links that remained between the two areas were abruptly severed or subject to the harshest scrutiny wherever possible. Karthan Sector Governor Tanit Koenig moved to heavily censure the Astral Claws Chapter, along with calls for the arrest and trial of Huron for treachery against the Imperium, while the local agents of the Magos Invigilia petitioned their own distant masters for the Astral Claws' punishment. With customary inertia, the Adeptus Terra did not yet deliberately intervene; as there were wars and conflicts aplenty abroad in the Imperium, and this local discord between neighbouring regions - no more to them than a tangle of claim and counter-claim between legitimate authorities, paled before the weight of the suffering and bloodshed elsewhere. In addition, fundamentally, Lugft Huron was the lawful master of a realm permanently on a war footing; a bulwark against the alien and the claws of Chaos, and on the most basic level he had the right to defend those domains, and without hard evidence, charges of wilful and premeditated homicide against the Imperium's servants in this case would be almost impossible to prove.


Well, Huron could not say that the Imperium was against him at that stage. That a local bust-up involving the destruction of several large ships, including three cruisers, could be considered so minor as to be all but ignored tells us something of the scale of Imperial military resources. Two more expeditions would be sent over three years, all of them meeting the same fate. Huron subsequently declared his 'just secession', denouncing the Karthan Lords while proclaiming his loyalty to the Imperium.

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Around this time Imperial shipping passing through the Maelstrom Zone's outer regions began to be attacked and lost in great numbers to unknown forces. Soon contact with several worlds still beholden to the Karthans and the Administratum Officio on Sagan within the inner zone ended with garbled communications warning of attack and siege by Space Marine forces. The Karthans, outraged, threatened all-out war in response, but simply lacked the means to do so alone. Instead the petitioned aid to mount an attack from both the Departmento Munitorum and the Segmentum Naval sub-command at Ryza, but were flatly refused and informed that the matter was an 'internal dispute' in which they would not interfere. It is also noteworthy that although they pleaded their case before these powers and the Procurators of the Administratum, that they avoided, wherever possible, any Inquisitorial involvement in the matter, no doubt fearing the consequences of doing so. The local Inquisition representatives for their part, more than well enough occupied by other concerns, were content to keep a close eye on the situation, mindful that such squabbles, however bloody, were far from uncommon among Imperial commanders, particularly in border regions, and no damning or conclusive evidence of heresy or taint had yet been brought forward against either party.


Of course, Huron had to go on the attack, didn't he? It's true that he was under attack, but wailing on an enemy who has three times proven itself incapable to harming you is no way to prove your innocence. When even the Inquisition is willing to leave well enough alone, it does not do to provoke them. The Imperium is getting a chaotic and violent image in this account.

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The Administratum-controlled system of Sagan with its attendent orbital fleet anchorage and Astropathic relay, was rightly regarded as the gateway to the Maelstrom Zone. Caught utterly unprepared for such a direct and sudden assault, Sagan fell in a matter of days as its defences, though extensive, were soon circumvented. Sagan's protectors were overwhelmed amid a great slaughter of its planetary defence forces and Karthen troops caught on the ground. With Sagan in the Tyrant's hands the strategic situation had rapidly changed, and now the second most important world in the region after Badab was under the Secessionist's direct control, along with the tithe-fortress' vast stockpile of arms, munitions and supplies. The Fire Hawks and the Karthan forces stranded on operations within the Maelstrom Zone found themselves cut off from supply and behind enemy lines. Badly mauled, the Fire Hawks withdrew from the Iblis system, the savage firepower of the Raptorus Rex raking the planet's surface as a parting gift and successfully punching the Fire Hawks a way out of an attempt to blockade them inside the system. The star-fortress claimed the life of the Maelstrom squadron's only Mars Class battlecruiser Sacred Tetrarch in the process, proving that even the mighty warship's nova cannon could not prevail against the mighty relic-vessel.
A warp-capable star fortress is an accessory worth having, as the Imperial Fists will also attest. Being able to withstand hits from a nova cannon should be reason enough for anyone. A little something here about strategic operations, specifically that a system with extensive orbital anchorage facilities is a must if you want to engage in large-scale fleet operations. Using transports to resupply a fleet on mission is evidently not considered a viable option, at least on that scale and in hostile space.
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Connor MacLeod wrote:
Ahriman238 wrote:Hey, you can't knock-off Connor, I was knocking offf Connor first. :)

Seriously though, welcome. Good start to. Considering the consequences and ramifications is what makes posting analysis different from copying and pasting the material, and you're doing just fine.
Speaking of which I was wondering if you were going to continue doing your HH stuff? We really need to get more people doing this, because it would encourage more feedback and discussion and generally promotes a better approach to these sorts of things.

Of course I havne't posted my lasgun analysis thread stuff yet either, I was going to do that. :P
Oh, I'm still doing it. The last couple of weeks have kind of hectic, my grandmother was hospitalized and has now moved in with us. In the process of making room, my neat 40k collection has been scattered into half a dozen different bookshelves on two floors, so Sd.net has kind of been where I go to escape the madness. In the next couple of weeks I need to help my SO move house, watch over my Gram, and get some lesson plans put together, but you have my word the analysis will continue.
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Juubi Karakuchi wrote:
With preliminary judgements into the Badab Schism in the Segmentum Courts Temporal weighing in the Administratum's favour, the Karthans and their allies within the Administratum seized their chance to act. In 901.M41, an Imperial investigation fleet commanded by an Administratum Assayer General and carrying representatives of the Adeptus Mechanicus Biologis Invigilia, the Lords of the Kathargo Sector and at least one independantly operating Inquisitor was assembled. The force was despatched to Badab to demand the immediate delivery of the Badab tithe, commandeered resources, and Astral Claws gene-seed requirement. The fleet was made up of several huge mass-conveyers with expectation of a harvest of wealth, and spearheaded by a trinity of cruisers, a Cult Mechanicus locus-caravel and a score of lesser escort craft. The force, no doubt calculated to to display the power and authority of the mission and carry a not so veiled threat into the heart of the Tyrant's domains could be seen as a misjudged plan, but few could have foreseen what would happen next.


Three cruisers and twenty escorts is not a fleet to be sneezed-at, but unquestionably insufficient against an Astartes fleet, even without the defences waiting for them at Badab. All the same, Huron seems to have made some powerful enemies. This will not end well.
How does an Astartes fleet come into this there is no mention of one in the quote so I don't see how you can justify that statement.
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Dwelf wrote:
Juubi Karakuchi wrote:
With preliminary judgements into the Badab Schism in the Segmentum Courts Temporal weighing in the Administratum's favour, the Karthans and their allies within the Administratum seized their chance to act. In 901.M41, an Imperial investigation fleet commanded by an Administratum Assayer General and carrying representatives of the Adeptus Mechanicus Biologis Invigilia, the Lords of the Kathargo Sector and at least one independantly operating Inquisitor was assembled. The force was despatched to Badab to demand the immediate delivery of the Badab tithe, commandeered resources, and Astral Claws gene-seed requirement. The fleet was made up of several huge mass-conveyers with expectation of a harvest of wealth, and spearheaded by a trinity of cruisers, a Cult Mechanicus locus-caravel and a score of lesser escort craft. The force, no doubt calculated to to display the power and authority of the mission and carry a not so veiled threat into the heart of the Tyrant's domains could be seen as a misjudged plan, but few could have foreseen what would happen next.


Three cruisers and twenty escorts is not a fleet to be sneezed-at, but unquestionably insufficient against an Astartes fleet, even without the defences waiting for them at Badab. All the same, Huron seems to have made some powerful enemies. This will not end well.
How does an Astartes fleet come into this there is no mention of one in the quote so I don't see how you can justify that statement.
Since you bring it up, I'll put in this little section on Astartes fleets.

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Warships of the Space Marines
All Space Marine Chapters maintain a fleet of some sort, which by the dictates of the Codex Astartes and the limitations placed upon them in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy is closely focused on intra-system transport and planetary assault, with, by tradition, only their smaller vessels purposely designed as gunships optimised for Naval combat. There are some Chapters who have always railed against this however, and particularly those who spend their time permanently on crusade or have no home but their fleet have often done much to circumvent if not outright ignore these limitations, often coming into conflict with the Imperial Navy for doing so.

Rather than particular classes and models of warships, most Chapters instead define their star vessels by use and broad type, with some exceptions being themselves ancient relics of the Great Crusade or unique warships captured as prizes and converted to the Chapter's use. The battle barge is the largest and most powerful Space Marine warship encountered, and few Chapters are in possession of more than two or three such mighty craft at most. Battleship-sized vessesl, battle barges are designed first and foremost for survivability under the heaviest fire - an invaluable trait in a spearhead vessel for planetary invasion. Their designs back up this durability with massive if often short ranged firepower to aid in assault operations, along with substantial launch bays and drop-pod capacities. Owing to their massive durability and power, few vessels, save a full-scale battleship, can stand up to a battleship in a close-action space combat, and thanks to the Space Marines on board, they are truly terrifying opponents in a boarding assault. Strike cruisers are the most common Space Marine heavy warship; high-speed rapid response units, geared towards planetary assault and pacification operations. Strike cruisers are able to carry a strike force up to a Company-strong in size to battle and deploy them with surprising switftness. The last common type of Space Marine warships are rapid strike vessels; these are relatively small warp-capable attack craft, frigates and destroyers which serve as both line-of-battle escorts and patrol ships and can also be used to deploy very small forces on infiltration raids.


A bit long-winded here, so I'll focus on the important points. An Astartes fleet will generally manage between 1x and 3x battle barges, each of which is considered equivalent to a full-sized battleship in terms of combat power. This is admittedly optimized for short range, but the Thunderhawk complement would make up for it. The Astral Claws fleet included 2x battle barges, 1x Cardinal class heavy cruiser, 7x strike cruisers, and 30+ escorts, some of which were ex-pirate prizes (Page 59). It would have behooved the Karthans to be a little more respectful.
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You are doing an analysis here it may take more time but if your going to make an assertion it would make sense, at least to me to include the details that led to that hypothesis. I couldn't follow the logic chain in the previous statment. You have a quote about the size of the tithe fleet with no mention anywhere near it of anything to do with Marine vessel after which your only assertion was that a Marine fleet would be vastly superior.

In this situation I'm not sure that a marine fleet would have been superior. As pointed out above their automated defence systems composed of at least 4000 mines and 2 weapons platforms of unknown capability.
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I think sending in an entire chapter's battlefleet would have resulted in the complete loss of the chapter as those defences sound like far more than they can handle. Even if the mines are not to that scale and the defence platforms are pretty basic.
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Dwelf, the point is that the tithe fleet was vastly inferior to the fleet of a typical Marine chapter. The typical chapter has a couple of battleship-scale battle barges, several cruisers, and a few dozen smaller vessels; the tithe fleet had three cruisers and twenty escorts. So we see that the tithe fleet was "insufficient against an Astartes fleet:" too weak to confidently expect to defeat such a fleet in combat. Not that three cruisers and twenty escorts is weak, it's just not enough to ensure victory in a naval battle fought over the Astral Claws' homeworld.

Therefore, having the tithe fleet go pick a fight with the homeworld of a Space Marine chapter was a bad idea- the tithe fleet should have recognized that they were outgunned, and either been reinforced with greater combat strength, or acted more cautiously to avoid having to fight a battle they'd lose.
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Dwelf wrote:You are doing an analysis here it may take more time but if your going to make an assertion it would make sense, at least to me to include the details that led to that hypothesis. I couldn't follow the logic chain in the previous statment. You have a quote about the size of the tithe fleet with no mention anywhere near it of anything to do with Marine vessel after which your only assertion was that a Marine fleet would be vastly superior.
I'm new to this, so I may modify my technique as I go. My only assertion was that the Karthans were being arrogant.
Dwelf wrote:In this situation I'm not sure that a marine fleet would have been superior. As pointed out above their automated defence systems composed of at least 4000 mines and 2 weapons platforms of unknown capability.
BFG rules pg 142 wrote:An oribtal mine is a piece of heavy ordinance placed to protect a location such as a planet moon or space station. With it's own small engine it wll home in on any energy signature it detects which is not accompanied by a friendly beacon signal. At close range it detonates a powerful warhead which can cripple even the largest vessel.
I think sending in an entire chapter's battlefleet would have resulted in the complete loss of the chapter as those defences sound like far more than they can handle. Even if the mines are not to that scale and the defence platforms are pretty basic.
It took considerably more than one Chapter fleet to break the Ring of Steel. Since you mentioned mines specifically, here is the data given on the assassin mines in the 2nd book;

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Eyrine pattern Assassin Mine
Mass: 1.2 MT
Active Terminal Range: 3.754 KM
Self-actualisation: Preditoris Maxima
Silica Anima Rating: 17 (Warning)
Thrust Capacity: 123,450/1-
Warhead (standard): Colbol-calicite
Yield: 36 sub-ordnance direct blast units each /20 MT
Adeptus Mechanicus approved
Going on the Rogue Trader figures (Rulebook, p. 195), the mine's mass is 1/5 that of a Sword-class frigate (6 megatonnes). 36x 20 megaton submunitions comes to 720 MT total. Several thousand of those could be quite destructive. I'll do a full analysis of the Ring of Steel when the time comes.
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Thanks Juubi don't let me derail you further.
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Actually, 700 Megatons seems a touch lower-end. Imperial ships regularly throw around gigatons of firepower. Then again, it's 'just' a mine, and there are several thousand.
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There are wild inconsistencies in the numbers for 40k, as for a lot of other SF settings where hard numbers are given.

The best analysis can really hope for is a consistent-ish outcome, where most of the data points fall within a few orders of magnitude of each other and there are few enough outliers that you can shrug them off.
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Claim and counter-claim ensured in the aftermath as to how this tragic destruction had occurred, and Lugft Huron, delivering his own dominion's report on the Badab matter to the Segmentum authorities, was adamant that the fleet was fired upon for refusing to give way to the just authority of the system's masters, paying for their transgressions with their lives as mandated by Imperial law. Meanwhile, outrage at the incident in the Kathargo sector quickly became widespread, and general uproar was evidenced throughout the sector's ruling elites at the 'Barbarians' of the Maelstrom Zone, and soon such trade links that remained between the two areas were abruptly severed or subject to the harshest scrutiny wherever possible. Karthan Sector Governor Tanit Koenig moved to heavily censure the Astral Claws Chapter, along with calls for the arrest and trial of Huron for treachery against the Imperium, while the local agents of the Magos Invigilia petitioned their own distant masters for the Astral Claws' punishment. With customary inertia, the Adeptus Terra did not yet deliberately intervene; as there were wars and conflicts aplenty abroad in the Imperium, and this local discord between neighbouring regions - no more to them than a tangle of claim and counter-claim between legitimate authorities, paled before the weight of the suffering and bloodshed elsewhere. In addition, fundamentally, Lugft Huron was the lawful master of a realm permanently on a war footing; a bulwark against the alien and the claws of Chaos, and on the most basic level he had the right to defend those domains, and without hard evidence, charges of wilful and premeditated homicide against the Imperium's servants in this case would be almost impossible to prove.


Well, Huron could not say that the Imperium was against him at that stage. That a local bust-up involving the destruction of several large ships, including three cruisers, could be considered so minor as to be all but ignored tells us something of the scale of Imperial military resources. Two more expeditions would be sent over three years, all of them meeting the same fate. Huron subsequently declared his 'just secession', denouncing the Karthan Lords while proclaiming his loyalty to the Imperium. [/quote]
It sounds to me that tells us more about the scale of the Imperium wars rather than its resources. Apparently, such a minor conflict was not considered to be the purview of segmentum concern, much less Terra.

Also, isn't it interesting that Huron is considered the lawful master of a realm? We do know from 5th edition codex that the Imperium has given many chapters homeworlds, so as to benefit from the improved rule/defences a chapter provides. However, who ceded Huron this authority? Or was this post hoc rationalisation?
Afterall, the imperium definitely doesn't care if an Imperial governor is deposed,including its form of government, as long as its tithes and certain critical laws such as xenos, pyskers are maintained. Still, this is a Space Marine chapter we're talking about, right?
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PainRack wrote:Also, isn't it interesting that Huron is considered the lawful master of a realm? We do know from 5th edition codex that the Imperium has given many chapters homeworlds, so as to benefit from the improved rule/defences a chapter provides. However, who ceded Huron this authority? Or was this post hoc rationalisation?
My guess? The Emperor originally ceded this authority to the Primarchs. The Space Marine Chapter Masters who succeeded the Primarchs, assumed they also had the authority to claim to be a realm's lawful master. The Adeptus Terra allowed this to stand, because... well, if the Emperor says it's okay, who are they to judge?
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They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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PainRack wrote:It sounds to me that tells us more about the scale of the Imperium wars rather than its resources. Apparently, such a minor conflict was not considered to be the purview of segmentum concern, much less Terra.

Also, isn't it interesting that Huron is considered the lawful master of a realm? We do know from 5th edition codex that the Imperium has given many chapters homeworlds, so as to benefit from the improved rule/defences a chapter provides. However, who ceded Huron this authority? Or was this post hoc rationalisation?
Afterall, the imperium definitely doesn't care if an Imperial governor is deposed,including its form of government, as long as its tithes and certain critical laws such as xenos, pyskers are maintained. Still, this is a Space Marine chapter we're talking about, right?
Huron's takeover seems to have been rationalized after the fact. It's understandable that this would happen, considering the conditions in the Maelstrom Zone and what had happened on Cygnax. What's more, the Astral Claws had a long and illustrious history, making the powers-that-be more likely to trust them. Huron himself comes across as an Astartes wunderkind, achieving high rank relatively early in his career and earning the respect of the other Maelstrom Warder chapters. At least in the early stages (the Badab Schism), it's a local bustup between the Space Marine who cleaned up the Badab sector and a pack of greedy nobles and merchants who'd spent the last few millenia sucking the Maelstrom Zone dry while contributing nothing to its maintenance. It wouldn't suprise me if more than a few in the wider Imperium (especially in the Adeptus Astartes) were cheering Huron on, at least until some of the darker facts came out. Even the Karthans didn't turn on him until he shut out their ships.

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The Marines Errant arrive in support of the Loyalists in 710 904.M41, bringing a force of 6x companies and a fleet of support vessels. They did not reveal their motivations for doing so.
For the next several standard months there were numerous repeated minor clashes between the two sides, with the Fire Hawks attempting to mass their remaining strength in the hopes of forcing a decisive engagement, while the Marines Errant, with a better grasp of the reality of the situation, splitting their highly mobile strike cruiser-based forces in order to guard convoys in transit from increasingly frequent raids and harassment attacks. In short order the Marines Errant found themselves caught between the desire of the Fire Hawks to attack and destroy Huron and his allies at any cost, and the immediate and growing need to protect Imperial shipping and outlying colonies in the Kathargo sector from attack by marauding Secessionist forces. This conflict of interest was further complicated by the ancient ties of loyalty and blood the Marines Errant had with the Lamenters Chapter, beside which they had fought as recently as the Corinth Crusade, but now faced as enemies in battle. This led to incidents where the Marines Errant failed to try to do more than drive off the Lamenters forces during raids, and in which both parties gave quarter to the other, raising the mutual ire of their allies.
Space Marines take their bonds of friendship very seriously. I may as well point out that the Secessionist chapters are the Astral Claws, the Lamenters, the Charnel Guard, and the Mantis Warriors. The Fire Hawks wanting to knock out the Astral Claws in one blow is all very well, but it's not doing them much good. Even with their space station to act as an in-system base, they'll need secure supply lines, for which they'll need the Secessionist fleet destroyed or well bottled-up. The Marines Errant seem to have the right idea for the moment, and are also being more considerate of the Karthan Lords.
Matters steadily worsened towards the year's end as ever greater numbers of star systems were drawn into the rapidly escalating war. Meanwhile the Fire Hawks and their Karthan allies continued to suffer heavy losses in battle. All but alone, the fiercely isolationist fortress world of Surngraad in the central Maelstrom Zone held out against the Secessionists - its defences simply too powerful and skilfully managed for them to take without a cost that would dangerously weaken their forces. But despite these few setbacks and the efforts of the Fire Hawks and Marines Errant, a dozen other worlds fell in short order to Secessionist control, either succumbing to direct assault or by submission, leaving only the periphery and the most forlorn and dangerous areas of the Maelstrom Zone outside the Secessionist grip.

Back-footed and embattled, worse developments for the Karthans and their allies would soon unfold, as in 915 904.M41 news reached the Marines Errant that in payment of an ancient blood oath given to the Astral Claws, the Executioners Chapter of the Space Marines had also announced their armed support for the Secessionists, sending the warship Night Hag containing a full augmented battle company of Space Marines to back up their words. The rest of this notoriously grim and independent Chapter's forces were known to be assembling on their twin home worlds of Stygia-Aquilon in preparation for war. Increasingly desperate, and with their own tithes and supplications to the Procurator-Generals of the Adeptus Terra long overdue, Satrap Tanit Koenig was forced to take drastic action. With the fleet anchorage at Sagan now in the hands of the Secessionists, the Karthan Imperial commanders, near bankrupted by their sector's losses in the war, mounted a final attempt to harvest the resources they knew to be waiting in the tithe depots of Vyaniah and Khymara before the Secessionists could consolidate their control of the western Maelstrom Zone and claim these worlds as their own.


Worth noting that Surngraad is so heavily fortified as to make taking it a painful prospect. The Executioners do not sound like nice people.

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A hastily assembled armed convoy centred around the vast Chartist highliner Cardinal Urdaneta was convened in order to carry out this last ditch effort effort on behalf of the Karthans and their allies. Convoy Urdaneta compromised some twenty other armed freighters and mass conveyers and was protected by the Gothic class cruiser Dreadchild of Battlefleet Kathargo, Marines Errant Strike Group Mercurio and sixteen smaller escorts of various classes, representing the last gasp of the Karthan's force projection into the Maelstrom Zone. The Secessionists intelligence network however had already ascertained every detail of this supposedly secret mission, and they waited until after the convoy had glutted itself on the wealth awaiting them at Vyaniah before they attacked the fleet mid transit into the Warp. Ambushed by a Secessionist attack group comprising the main elements from the both the Astral Claws and Lamenters fleets and led by Lugft Huron himself, the convoy was first encircled and then taken one vessel at a time in a series of ferocious ship-to-ship boarding actions. These were bloody pitched battles, fought between Space Marine assault forces and hard-pressed naval crews in the murderously tight confines of warship weapon decks and the vast airless vaults of the mass conveyers. Both the Cardinal Urdaneta and the Dreadchild as well as twenty-three other vessels were taken as captive prizes for almost no losses sustained by the attacking force's ships. The Marines Errant strike cruiser Star Jackal was the only capital ship of the convoy to escape the Tyrant's trap, fighting its way clear with heavy damage. The taking of Convoy Urdaneta was a crushing Secessionist victory that effectively ended the Karthans' active involvement in the war.
The Secessionists intelligence network evidently extends into the upper echelons of the Karthago sector authorities. Boarding actions can in this case be justified by the need to take the ships intact. Huron will need all the ships he can get if he's going to survive what might well be coming. Most interesting is that the ambush was launched while the fleet was in mid-transit into the Warp. 'Mid transit' could mean that the Secessionists attacked literally as the ships were entering the warp, or when the ships were making final preparations for entry. That so few escaped suggests the latter, though another question arises as to whether the Secessionist fleet launched the attack from realspace (which makes one wonder why the convoy didn't see them) or from in the Warp. I am leaning towards the warp, as this would allow them to drop out on top of the convoy with little or no warning. This would require very careful timing, and some astropathic telemetry wouldn't go amiss.

The Astral Claws focus their efforts on the Fire Hawks, and manage to drive them to the edge of the Golgothan Wastes, inflicting and suffering heavy losses yet suffering no apparent reduction in fighting strength. Remember this for later. The Mantis Warriors inflict a heavy defeat on the Marines Errant on the industrial moon of Bellorophon's Fall. The Marines Errant lose their Chapter Master and much of their command staff, forcing them to withdraw.

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The Eye of the High Lords
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With five different Chapters of the Space Marines now embroiled in open warfare, and a sixth en route, along with several naval detachments and the various sectarian factions now involved in what was rapidly accelerating to become the greatest conflict of its kind since the Fourth Quadrant Rebellion, the Imperium's high authorities were forced finally to act. A triumvirate of Imperial Legates were dispatched under the Seal of the High Lords to pronounce judgement over the ongoing strife in the Maelstrom Zone and were under orders to leave no stone unturned. The triumvirate was served by a sizable deputation of the Imperial Inquisition of the Ordo Hereticus, an Administratum Auditor taskforce and a powerful naval escort battle group assigned from the Segmentum Solar reserve, and quickly divided their attentions between the different combatants and their backers. Inquisition investigation swiftly uncovered a damning chain of evidence concerning Lugft Huron's activities and those of his Chapter. Charges were laid ranging from the paucity of their returned gene-seed to uncontrovertible evidence of their direct involvement in attacks on Imperial shipping. As for the Karthans, to the Inquisition, their own role in contributing to and worsening the unfolding events of the Secession smacked at best of gross arrogance, but more likely wanton ambition and misrule.

The resolution of the Badab Secession crisis was quickly pronounced by the Terran Legates to be a matter of the Imperium's security rather than a civil conflict. As a result of this preliminary finding, they issued an immediate demand for the unconditional ceasefire of all parties and the surrender of the Secessionists. A demand which was immediately rejected by Lugft Huron, with the Tyrant stating that to comply with the Legates' demands would 'leave our brave worlds and Emperor-given charges naked before the enemy.' As a result orders were issued by the Terran Legates for the arrest pending trial of the Chapter Masters of all the Secessionists Chapters and the seizure pending judgement of all their worlds, goods, records, and chattels by whatever force was deemed necessary. This order was to be carried out by all loyal forces of the Imperium, wherever so and whoever so they may be. So denounced, the hand of the Imperium itself was now turned against Lugft Huron and all who stood with him.

No longer a bloody feud over commerce and influence between Imperial factions, nor even a deadly vendetta between Space Marine Chapters; the conflict was now between the Imperium and those that hard turned away from the Emperor's rule, between Loyalist and Secessionist. The Badab war had truly begun.


I cannot help but feel that Huron was fatally mistaken in taking the war to the Karthans. It is very hard to credibly claim self-defence when you're chasing someone down the street with a kitchen knife, or in this case attacking Karthan sector planets and raiding the shipping lanes. The most obvious answer was that Huron was incapable of thinking in such terms, treating it purely as a military campaign and regarding the righteousness of his cause as entirely self-evident. The other major issue was that of the gene-seed, which might have been smoothed-over had he the sense to stand down, though it would mean letting Inquisitors breathe down his neck for an extended period. Then again, considering what would be revealed later, it might not have gone that easily for him. Either way, he played hardball to the last, throwing away several opportunities to end the crisis while preserving what he had gained, to the point where it was either victory or total defeat. Looking at it from a purely rational perspective, Huron had only himself to blame for the fate that would befall him, his Chapter, his allies, and those he was ostensibly trying to protect.

If I had to give a verdict on what made Lugft Huron do what he did, I would put it down to an inability to comprehend the wider context of what he was doing. Like some monstrous adolescent, or neo-Jacobin, he was neither able nor willing to understand why others sought to bar his way. Anyone who was not on his side was a target, no matter who it was or what the consequences of such behaviour would be. Then again, simple obsession would explain it just as well, his desire to conquer the Maelstrom being so strong as to override all other considerations.
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Sidewinder wrote:
PainRack wrote:Also, isn't it interesting that Huron is considered the lawful master of a realm? We do know from 5th edition codex that the Imperium has given many chapters homeworlds, so as to benefit from the improved rule/defences a chapter provides. However, who ceded Huron this authority? Or was this post hoc rationalisation?
My guess? The Emperor originally ceded this authority to the Primarchs. The Space Marine Chapter Masters who succeeded the Primarchs, assumed they also had the authority to claim to be a realm's lawful master. The Adeptus Terra allowed this to stand, because... well, if the Emperor says it's okay, who are they to judge?
When a Marine chapter is tasked with the responsibility for defending a region, it's not entirely unreasonable for the Adeptus Terra to think of that chapter as the supreme administrative authority within the sector. Marine chapters who are trusted to that level aren't exactly thick on the ground (most chapters control only a particular world), but that doesn't mean there won't be some. Again, the Ultramarines are the obvious precedent.

In the quasi-feudal Imperium, it's reasonable that whatever military authority is capable of defending a given territory is the 'ruler' of that territory- whether the authority in question is Astartes, Mechanicus, Ecclesiarchy, or whatever.
Juubi Karakuchi wrote:Worth noting that Surngraad is so heavily fortified as to make taking it a painful prospect. The Executioners do not sound like nice people.
My impression is that they're at least honorable. No worse than many other chapters, just with grim names.
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I would like to point out that in this case, the Successionist ability to maintain an intelligence network indicates that they also have access to astropathic communications on loyalist worlds.

This is deeply troubling. How did Huron gain access to such pyskers? Are they rogues? Or psykers which have been converted to the rebellion?

Alternatively, communications security is poor and spies were able to beam messages to rebel worlds.

Another possibility is the use of pyskers to "hack" into messages. Combined with the use of scryers perhaps. If this is the avenue they choose, these abilities may also be present in other chapters Librarians.
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Ahriman238 wrote:Actually, 700 Megatons seems a touch lower-end. Imperial ships regularly throw around gigatons of firepower. Then again, it's 'just' a mine, and there are several thousand.
700 megatons isn't that far off from a low gigaton range - one of the big things is we don't know how many "mines" it actually takes to inflict damage, whether or not they are stand off or they slip under void shields (regular mines as per BFG did, IIRC.) or what. We do know they are "directed blast" submuitions, which means they're going to be less like normal nukes and more like a shaped charge or beam weapon. Hell this may even explain the tremendous mass of the weapon if it uses that to create some sort of powreful blast stream to direct at the target (like the Casaba Howitzer spinoff from Project Orion.) Hell for all we know that "Jet" may have some pretty hefty force/momentum behind it as well as KE, that complicates things too. I also vaguely recall the Ring of Steel mine sbeing described as primitive atomics, so they may not neccesarily be top of the line stuff (useful in numbers, but that's it.)

A half dozen or so 700 MT (or so) would be about 4 gigatons. Sure that's not OMFG TERATONS or anything or even high gigatons, but depending on context that could fit quite well (again does it ignore shields or not?) Hell its possible that they may need more than a couple mines to do damage, especially on larger ships (a score? a hundred or more?)

It's worth noting that what was quoted above notes they awakened 4000 some Assassin mines to take on 3 cruisers and a score of escorts. Even if 90% of the mines get shot down thats still around 15-20 mines average per ship, and the mines are not the ONLY defenses they have.
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PainRack wrote:I would like to point out that in this case, the Successionist ability to maintain an intelligence network indicates that they also have access to astropathic communications on loyalist worlds.

This is deeply troubling. How did Huron gain access to such pyskers? Are they rogues? Or psykers which have been converted to the rebellion?

Alternatively, communications security is poor and spies were able to beam messages to rebel worlds.

Another possibility is the use of pyskers to "hack" into messages. Combined with the use of scryers perhaps. If this is the avenue they choose, these abilities may also be present in other chapters Librarians.
I'm currently leaning towards poor communications security, especially considering how arrogant and incompetent the Karthans seem to be. Librarians being able to hack astropathic messages is an interesting idea, and it makes a degree of sense.
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Chapter Three: The Tide of Destruction
Once Space Marine had met Space Marine in battle, the conflict in the Maelstrom had swiftly escalated. Now with Imperial authorities attempting to enforce a cessation of hostilities under deadly sanction and effect the arrest and seizure of Lugft Huron, the Maelstrom Zone conflict erupted into full-scale war, but even at this hour there were those who believed that the factions could be pulled back from the brink of destruction. They were proved wrong.

The Loyalists Gather for War
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With the pronouncement of the Terran Legates' judgement, a major deployment of Space Marines was brought into the war to enforce its ruling by any means necessary. Chosen from those Chapters available in the region and willing to take up the call to arms, the Red Scorpions Chapter formed the largest part of what was to become swiftly known as the 'Loyalist' Space Marine contingent. They would be joined by additional battle companies drawn from the Salamanders, Raptors, and Fire Angels Chapters, with in the short term, the surviving Fire Hawks and Marines Errant ordered to stand down from independent operations and submit to the High Lords authority for investigation.

The Marines Errant, in parlous condition from their recent losses, readily complied, but before they submitted to the Legates' will, the Fire Hawks had one last act of bloody vengeance to perform that has since entered into the history of the war as the infamous 'Firebombing of Sacristan'. In what is widely regarded as a strategically wasteful and vainglorious assault, Lazaerek of the Fire Hawks used his surviving Chapter fleet, led by the Star Fortress Raptorus Rex to conduct a retaliatory orbital assault on the frontier planet of Sacristan, a sovereign world on the edge of the Endymion Cluster. Sacristan was a hardscrabble colony world with a small population and no real significance other than as one of the worlds that the Mantis Warriors had long counted among those it was their responsibility to defend. After smashing through the planet's paltry space defences, and decapitating its rulers and few military assets in a series of savage raids by Fire Hawks assault forces, the Raptorus Rex entered a perilously low orbit and proceeed with systematic plasma-bombing from the upper atmosphere of the planet. Over several days and nights Sacristan was laid waster before the Fire Hawks withdrew from the system leaving the planet aflame, wiping out more than 90% of its population.
In this we see two rather different conceptions of the Space Marines. The Marines Errant have been quite respectable thus far, despite their lack of success. They seem to have done the best they could with limited resources and allies either useless (Karthans) or uncooperative (Fire Hawks). The Fire Hawks, by contrast, started out acting like a bunch of bloodthirsty incompetents, sticking stubbornly to their original plan despite events having rendered it redundant. When faced with failure they devolve into spoiled children, burning an irrelevant colony out of sheer spite.
While Legate-Inquisitor Jarndyce Frain of the Ordo Hereticus had theoretical charge of the Loyalists, it was instead Verant Ortys, Lord High Commander of the Red Scorpions who was given overall tactical command...as Magister Militum; a 'first among equals', by the commanders of the other Space Marine contingents. (Such an appointment being a common practice where diverse Chapters are present within a single force). Given the inherent dangers in dealing with conflicts between the Space Marines Chapters and their relative autonomy from direct Imperial control, Frain had little choice but to go along with this decision, but would have most likely preferred a commander from a more 'tractable' Chapter if given his way, as the Red Scorpions have been in the past a famously independently-minded and occasionally fractious Chapter in their own right. Regardless, the massed Loyalist Space Marine forces, backed by detachments brought in from the Segmentum Solar reserve fleet quickly set about their tasks which were twofold. The first of these was to force the surrender and compliance of the Secessionist Chapters to the Legate's authority. The second was...to reestablish re-establish and protect commercial links between the worlds of the Maelstrom Zone and the rest of the Imperium, an Imperium in dire need of those resources in order to maintain a score of pressing military needs.
A little insight into Astartes practices. The appointment of a Magister Militum is the usual approach when multiple chapters are working together, and that the usual choice is the leader of the largest contingent. A small reminder of the difficulties the Inquisition faces in dealing with the Astartes. It would also appear that the economic impact of the Secession had a wider effect than was immediately apparent, if reestablishing the supply lines was of such immediate priority.

Lord Commander Ortys' strategy was to attack on a broad front to gauge resistance and find any exploitable weaknesses. None present themselves. One ray of light is that the Fire Hawks and Marines Errant are declared free of taint and permitted to rejoin the war.

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The Castigation of Sidon Ultra
Elsewhere, outside the borders of the Maelstrom Zone, the scrutiny of the High Lords of Terra also fell on the Kathargo Sector. Legatine investigations carried out at Sidon Ultra, capital of the Kathargo sector quickly found Imperial Commander and Karthan Sector Governor, the Satrap Tanit Koenig cuplable for provoking the war, and she and the heads of her noble house were executed by the Ordo Hereticus for ""Licentitious ambition and wanton misrule unbecoming a servant of the Emperor."

The findings of the inquest into the actions of the Karthans were (in brief) that she and her ruling clique had overstepped their authority on numerous counts in the events leading up to the start of the Badab War. Now she and those that followed her were put to death, and the Karthans were to pay for their transgressions, with the entire fourteen billion strong population of Sidon Ultra committed to indentured servitude for six generations in payment of outstanding debt.

Full scale Administratum rectification audits and Adeptus Arbites Moral Enforcement pogroms soon began moving outwards across the Kathargo Sector as tithe costs and reparations to the Adeptus Terra were extracted forcibly from the Karthan worlds. A process that is still ongoing to this day.
Well, that's one way to recoup what you're owed. The Imperium of Man is not a good place in which to get into financial difficulties. It is also rather unforgiving of official incompetence, at least where it is apparent.
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Well, it's really too ponderous to be good at rooting out official incompetence. It generally takes a high profile disaster like the Badab War breaking out before a senior official gets enough attention and investigation that they might actually be seriously punished. Relatively petty incompetence and corruption is shrugged off, in contrast- or that's my impression.

As is often the case with the Imperium, as long as you stay below a certain threshold it doesn't even notice you're there, but once it decides it doesn't like you you are screwed.
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Re: Imperial Armour IX - The Badab War, part 1 - Analysis

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Juubi Karakuchi wrote:
While Legate-Inquisitor Jarndyce Frain of the Ordo Hereticus had theoretical charge of the Loyalists, it was instead Verant Ortys, Lord High Commander of the Red Scorpions who was given overall tactical command...as Magister Militum; a 'first among equals', by the commanders of the other Space Marine contingents. (Such an appointment being a common practice where diverse Chapters are present within a single force). Given the inherent dangers in dealing with conflicts between the Space Marines Chapters and their relative autonomy from direct Imperial control, Frain had little choice but to go along with this decision, but would have most likely preferred a commander from a more 'tractable' Chapter if given his way, as the Red Scorpions have been in the past a famously independently-minded and occasionally fractious Chapter in their own right. Regardless, the massed Loyalist Space Marine forces, backed by detachments brought in from the Segmentum Solar reserve fleet quickly set about their tasks which were twofold. The first of these was to force the surrender and compliance of the Secessionist Chapters to the Legate's authority. The second was...to reestablish re-establish and protect commercial links between the worlds of the Maelstrom Zone and the rest of the Imperium, an Imperium in dire need of those resources in order to maintain a score of pressing military needs.
(emphasis mine) - is this an off-handed reference to the Anphelion Project? :)
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Re: Imperial Armour IX - The Badab War, part 1 - Analysis

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As well as their fiercely independent character as a Chapter, yes, it probably is a reference to them leaving Inquisitor "Spiderman" Lok to get eaten on Beta Anphelion IV.
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Re: Imperial Armour IX - The Badab War, part 1 - Analysis

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The Vyaniah Raids and Treachery on Surngraad
906. M41

With the Secessionist advance effectively contained, Lord Commander Ortys' next plan of attack was to conduct a series of heavy raids on the Vyaniah system, having determined this to be the target against which the greatest pressure could be placed on the enemy. Vyaniah itself was an important world and served as the gatehouse along one of the secondary Warp routes around the Maelstrom's rim, while auspex analysis and intelligence sources had labelled its defences and garrison weaker than the heavily reinforced Sagan system. Further weight was lent to Vyaniah as a target by intelligence reports indicating that there remained significant ongoing unrest on the conquered world against the Secessionists, which might be stirred up to open revolt by a Loyalist attack.
It looks as if Ortys is going for the slow and sensible approach, weakening the enemy one system at a time. Vyaniah would seem like a good choice, considering its position and its manufacturing capacity (I'll do the datafax in a moment). The part about auspex analysis can be interpreted in one of two ways. One is that the Imperium is capable of scanning over interplanetary distances, the other is that the scans were carried out by scout ships on the edge of the Vyaniah system. I'm leaning towards the latter, on the basis that Vyaniah is not as heavily defended as Badab or Sagan, meaning a scout ship might drop in, make the scans, then jump out before system defence ships could reach it.
While the Fire Hawks and newly arrived Raptors contingent conducted patrol and escort operations, strike forces drawn from the Red Scorpions, Marines Errant, and Novamarines conducted a three-pronged attack on the Vyaniah system, the first of several such raids carried out in rapid succession. The principal target of these raids was the damaging of Vyaniah's production capacity and orbital transhipping platforms, with the secondary objective of weakening the Secessionists' grip on the system. In the series of battles that followed, the Loyalist Space Marines confronted the reformed and reorganized Badab Sector planetary defence forces of the Tyrant's Legion in open warfare for the first time. The resistance of these forces had been greatly underestimated and as a result the Loyalist strike groups were largely prevented from achieving many of their goals in the first raid, with only one of the four orbital platforms taken out of action. In addition while Vyaniah's manufactory complexes suffered some damages, production was not significantly affected. Data intercepted from the Vyaniah command vox-network however revealed that the price of resistance was high for the Tyrant's Legion, with the Loyalists inflicting a greater than 178:1 estimated kill ratio on the human Auxilia defending the system. The last of the Vyaniah raids of 906.M41 proved particularly bloody for the Tyrant's Legion, as Red Scorpion forces conducted attacks directly into the Caelian industrial hive with the specific goal of inflicting mass casualties on the human defenders and picking off their Astral Claws Space Marine masters where found in their ranks.


I see the orbital platforms as being a significant target in many contexts. Their role is evidently to act as an intermediary between ships and the planet, with people and cargoes being offloaded on the platform and shuttled down to the planet, and vice-versa. This would be important not only for the handling of cargoes entering and leaving the system, but also for those within the system, including reinforcements to any outer planets or bodies being defended. The description implies that fighting took place on the platforms themselves, implying that the Loyalists intended to put them out of action, then repair them later once secured.

All in all, the Secessionists maintain control despite the Loyalist raids. In other news the Executioners raided the Loyalist supply lines with the Night Hag, and Surngraad's northern citadels fell to the Secessionists by treachery from within, though the southern citadels held out.

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Planetary Datafax: Vyaniah
Time Ref: 902.M41
Class: Type Terran standard, (Rotation 25.6 standard hours, 1.01 g, 0.85 tm)
Designation: Industrialised colony/early stage hive world
Population: Human Imperial, 2.5 billion estimated
Tithe Grade: Exactas Tertuis (pending reassessment)
Climate/Geography/Biosphere: Atmosphere - Temperate/Cold, planetary biosphere undeveloped, exiting geological ice age, all major flora and fauna specialised imported from off world, large saline life-supporting seas, single primary equatorial continental mass, slowling receding icecaps, several heavily industrialised urban settlements, the largest of which, Caelian, is developing into a solar-type dispersed hive structure.
Governmental Type: Imperial Commander as hereditary ruler supported by a Quorum of Magnates (drawn from leading industrial clan families), independent under the Imperial Segmentul seal.
Planetary Governor: Protector Jerik Sarenko, Imperial Commander, thirteenth of his line.
Adept Presence: Minor; Administratum Tithe Assay Officio, Auxiliary-class Astropathic relay tower, small Adeptus Arbites and Ministorum Missionary presence.
Military: Army of Caelianc Protectorate, (standing planetary defence/civil enforcement force, second tier Imperial Guard equivalent), Household troops of various ruling clans (Militia).
Trade/economy/notes: Vyaniah is a slowly burgeoning industrialised colony developing into a minor hive world. Colonial settlements first established late M38, increasing with a large influx of refugees following the massacres on Isin in the Badab Sector in early M40. Vyaniah was officially recognised as an unaffoliated Imperial world by the Segmentum authorities in 2-334-107.M41. The planet has become industrially self-sufficient, exploiting its own mineral and chemical resources to sustain its civilisation and tithing to the Administratum in return for naval protection and import of goods and services otherwise unavailable. Secondary industry based around Macro-scale harvesting and processing of plentiful lower order sea-life into foodstuffs. Historically the system has been protected somewhat by its relative distance from the Maelstrom itself, and benefitted from its position as the most developed world on the outer south-western rim of the Maelstrom Zone.


Vyaniah seems to show the kind of independence a developed planet can enjoy in the Imperium under the right circumstances, and so long as there is none of the usual silliness (armed rebellion, tithe evasion, excessive tolerance of proscribed religions, etc). That a planet with a population of only 2.5 billion could be considered a proto-hive world implies that hive world status is a matter of settlement patterns rather than population alone.

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The Betrayal at Grief
3 390 906.M41

With something of an impasse reached in the war , it was the Secessionists who unexpectedly broke the standoff with a remarkable proposal. Lufgt Huron personally sent emissaries to the Loyalists, offering a temporary ceasefire and honourable parlay with the Loyalist commander Verant Ortys in order to avoid further bloodshed...Despite Inquisitor Frain's strong objections, Ortys agreed to the meeting, trusting to Huron's word as a fellow Chapter Master to keep the truce, but Ortys was equally avowed in his intention to remain iron in his resolve to carry out the judgement of the High Lords.

...From what records were later recovered, it was plain that matters immediately became volatile and acrimonious. Lufgt Huron acted and spoke as if it was Ortys and those who stood with him, not Huron and the Secessionists who had contravened Imperial law. Present in Huron's party was also Chapter Master Sartaq of the Mantis Warriors, who swiftly accused the Fire Hawks Chapter of perpetrating wanton crimes of genocide against civilian populations loyal to the Imperium, demanding that their master Lazaerek be brought to trial by combat for his crimes. Lugft Huron himself in imperious mood, commenced a ranting diatribe against his enemies and their perceived enormities and insults, going so far as to suggest that Ortys himself should bow down before him and fight under the Tyrant's banner against those who turn the Astartes into "...no more than lickspittle slaves to their own petty greed." Verant Ortys for his part stood firm, and re-iterated the Legatine writ of authority and the unassailable right of summons. As the talks became heated an adjournment was called for, and both parties withdrew to separate compartments on the station to confer with their fellows. It is at this point matters of record regarding this incident become confused, and contradictory reports exist as to what happened next as Loyalist communications to their strike cruiser were cut off.

What is certain is that three unknown vessels, two marked by auspex logs as likely to be Iconoclast pattern raiders (a renegade design) and a third light cruiser sized vessel of unknown provenance, attacked from concealed positions deep within the thick atmosphere of the gas giant Shedim. The attackers assaulted the asteroid base before either Loyalist or Secessionist vessels could respond, raking the derelict way-station with weapons fire before boarding with a raiding party consisting of heretics, mutants, and other renegades. In the confused battle that followed, it is known that the Loyalist delegation, including the revered Red Scorpions Chapter Master, Lord Commander Verant Ortys was killed, and several members of Huron's party including Chapter Master Sartaq of the Mantis Warriors were also slain, but exactly how this occurred remains unknown. During the resultant three-way space battle around the way-station, the Red Scorpions' Chief Librarian Sevrin Loth led a desperate counter-assault on the station via assault ram and teleporter attack. At the height of the battle, the larger unknown vessel, badly stricken by fire from the Astral Claws strike cruiser, crashed into the way station and exploded, causing the asteroid to slowly break up in a cascade of debris. Despite this roiling destruction Sevrin Loth succeeded in recovering his fallen master's remains, the Red Scorpions clashing with both the raiders and Huron's Astral Claws within the disintegrating asteroid base before both sides broke free from the place to avoid certain death.


Needless to say both sides blame the other, Huron blaming it on an Inquisitorial plot. Inquistor Frain theorised that it was either a third party trying to prolong the war or Huron trying to kill Sartaq in order to keep the Mantis Warriors on side (they were having second thoughts). Huron is just bloody-minded (or insane) enough to try something like that. On the other hand, after what happened on Anphelion, I can't rule out the possibility that the Inquisition was out for payback. That's not to say that Frain was personally involved.
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