Black guy talking to white girl? Break his jaw!

[Lord Baal]

I certainly can! What a disgrace that this kind of things still happen in our world, in this days and age...

Is surprising! Of all the nasty things that I have the disgrace to presence on my country, I gladly say that racism is not one of them! My grandfather is black, and I would kill anyone making fun of him just because the color of his skin.

Why people don't get that the character of a person is way beyond the color of it's skin?

[ChaserGrey]

I think it's more telling that one of the suspects is already free on a $200,000 bond. Oh yeah, your precious little baby was seen by a party full of witnesses committing felony assault, and you promptly plunk down 200 grand to get him out instead of letting him sit in jail to learn his lesson? Can you say "spoiled douchebag?"

Is he, now? You all can't see this, but I'm rubbing my hands together with glee. If he's a rich, spoiled little boy like that, it's just possible he might be so used to having his own way that he'll turn down a plea deal and trust to Daddy's lawyers to get him off. Which will probably lead to him going down in richly deserved flames.

C'mon, douchebag. Deep down you know plea bargains are for suckers. You know you want to fight it.

[TheHammer]

I think it's more telling that one of the suspects is already free on a $200,000 bond. Oh yeah, your precious little baby was seen by a party full of witnesses committing felony assault, and you promptly plunk down 200 grand to get him out instead of letting him sit in jail to learn his lesson? Can you say "spoiled douchebag?"

Well he's claiming he's innocent, and of the three he might in fact be most likely to be innocent since it wasn't his girl or brother involved in the fight. If he did in fact throw kicks or punches and gets convicted you can be reasonably assured he'll learn a lesson in jail.

[PeZook]

Also, in America there's a huge market for special bail loans. He might've just taken one out ; Which means he'll probably get screwed in the long term, since as far as I know these loans are pretty predatory...

[Phantasee]

Honestly, I don't wish jail on anyone. I'd probably bail my kid out even if he shot the pope or something.

[LaCroix]

Honestly, I don't wish jail on anyone. I'd probably bail my kid out even if he shot the pope or something.

Which would be a waste of money, since he will go back to jail in any way under the said circumstances...

[Stofsk]

Um, bail is only a 'waste' of money if the person who gets bailed absconds, thereby calling in the surety from whoever posted bail. Otherwise it just sits there and if the bailee behaves himself then it never gets 'wasted'.

[LaCroix]

Um, bail is only a 'waste' of money if the person who gets bailed absconds, thereby calling in the surety from whoever posted bail. Otherwise it just sits there and if the bailee behaves himself then it never gets 'wasted'.

As I doubt he has enough money to bail out someone on serious charges, he probably would need a loan... I know I couldn't raise 20k...

[Broomstick]

Typical strategy in that case is for someone to use their house as collateral... which is fine if the accused stays put, but if he/she runs then whoever used a house as collateral loses that house.

[Hamstray]

Um, bail is only a 'waste' of money if the person who gets bailed absconds, thereby calling in the surety from whoever posted bail. Otherwise it just sits there and if the bailee behaves himself then it never gets 'wasted'.

As I doubt he has enough money to bail out someone on serious charges, he probably would need a loan... I know I couldn't raise 20k...

That would mean a loan to pay the interest on the actual loan (the 200k). That would leave you 20k in debt.

[nobody_really]

I certainly can! What a disgrace that this kind of things still happen in our world, in this days and age...

Is surprising! Of all the nasty things that I have the disgrace to presence on my country, I gladly say that racism is not one of them! My grandfather is black, and I would kill anyone making fun of him just because the color of his skin.

Why people don't get that the character of a person is way beyond the color of it's skin?

I'm glad to hear that racism is not a huge problem in your country, but you really need to take a chill pill. The death penalty is an appropriate punishment for being insulted?! And not even being insulted yourself, but for an insult to someone else?! What. The. Fuck. Is your name Elisha? Or are you just talking tough behind a veil of anonymity? The way you counter an insult in a civilized society is with more words, not with violence. Weren't you taught that in school?

Honor--one of the worst of the "virtues."

[Darth Wong]

Um, bail is only a 'waste' of money if the person who gets bailed absconds, thereby calling in the surety from whoever posted bail. Otherwise it just sits there and if the bailee behaves himself then it never gets 'wasted'.

As I doubt he has enough money to bail out someone on serious charges, he probably would need a loan... I know I couldn't raise 20k...

The problem is not raising the $20k (I don't know how destitute you are, but given that a car costs much more than that, I'd guess that most families can find a way to come up with $20k if they need it). The problem is coming up with some kind of collateral worth the $200k face value of the bond. As Broomstick says, a house works, but that's quite a risk (and besides, it only works if the house is paid off, or at least has $200k of equity in it, after subtracting any outstanding loans).

[Lord Baal]

I certainly can! What a disgrace that this kind of things still happen in our world, in this days and age...

Is surprising! Of all the nasty things that I have the disgrace to presence on my country, I gladly say that racism is not one of them! My grandfather is black, and I would kill anyone making fun of him just because the color of his skin.

Why people don't get that the character of a person is way beyond the color of it's skin?

I'm glad to hear that racism is not a huge problem in your country, but you really need to take a chill pill. The death penalty is an appropriate punishment for being insulted?! And not even being insulted yourself, but for an insult to someone else?! What. The. Fuck. Is your name Elisha? Or are you just talking tough behind a veil of anonymity? The way you counter an insult in a civilized society is with more words, not with violence. Weren't you taught that in school?

Honor--one of the worst of the "virtues."

Are you serious or are you so abstracted that you didn't realized I was talking in figuratively, not literally? By "I would kill" I meant I would argue~fight some one making fun of him.

[Darth Wong]

Are you serious or are you so abstracted that you didn't realized I was talking in figuratively, not literally? By "I would kill" I meant I would argue~fight some one making fun of him.

What makes you so sure that the problem was his reading comprehension skills, and not your communication skills? Most people, when they read "I would kill anyone making fun of him" do not think "I would engage him in a spirited argument".

[Lord Baal]

Now that you put it on that perspective, I guess I would have to be less figurative on this forums from now on. However the tone of his response was a little exaggerated too, hence the tone of my answer.

[nobody_really]

Are you serious or are you so abstracted that you didn't realized I was talking in figuratively, not literally? By "I would kill" I meant I would argue~fight some one making fun of him.

Look, it's quite apparent that English is not your native language, so I'm willing to cut you some slack. But, really. I have never heard, "I would kill someone who insulted my grandfather," when they meant, "I'd argue with / beat up someone who disrespected my grandpa." The word "kill," unless spoken in reference to a comedian, means "kill," or "murder," or "take the life of." When talking about a comedian, you could use it to mean that their routine made the audience laugh a lot.

P.S. I believe you meant "obtuse" or "blind" or "stupid" instead of "abstracted."

Now that you put it on that perspective, I guess I would have to be less figurative on this forums from now on. However the tone of his response was a little exaggerated too, hence the tone of my answer.

Look, you don't have to be less figurative, but you do need to know when a given phrase is appropriate. This whole thread started because of a story about how an argument mixed with jealousy escalated into a severe amount of violence. Violence that could have seen someone (Mr. Phillips) dead. I've too often seen (and probably engaged in it myself) tough posturing because of the anonymity the internet provides. Because of those factors, I didn't really see your comment as a deliberate exaggeration, but as a real threat. That is the context for the exaggeration I used in my reply.

[Lord Baal]

Oh, well thanks for the advices. Also, now that you and Darth Wong had pointed it out, I think the context was not appropriate for the word. I would not take the life of another human being out of a spoken insult!

And no, I didn't mean "obtuse" or "blind" or "stupid" instead of "abstracted". I did meant abstracted, like abstraction, that is sort of a synonymous of distraction, right? I really don't like to insult people over the internet (or in person for that matter), I simply thought that you where so focus on the word kill that didn't look a it in the context I meant.

[lance]

Are you serious or are you so abstracted that you didn't realized I was talking in figuratively, not literally? By "I would kill" I meant I would argue~fight some one making fun of him.

Look, it's quite apparent that English is not your native language, so I'm willing to cut you some slack. But, really. I have never heard, "I would kill someone who insulted my grandfather," when they meant, "I'd argue with / beat up someone who disrespected my grandpa." The word "kill," unless spoken in reference to a comedian, means "kill," or "murder," or "take the life of." When talking about a comedian, you could use it to mean that their routine made the audience laugh a lot.

It can also mean along the lines of 'defeat soundly' ie we killed the opposing team.

[Simon_Jester]

Very rarely, though.

What you will here sometimes is, say: "You forgot your wife's birthday? She's gonna kill you, man." In that case it's an obvious joke- but it's only used among people who know each other well enough to know it's a joke.

[Beowulf]

Um, bail is only a 'waste' of money if the person who gets bailed absconds, thereby calling in the surety from whoever posted bail. Otherwise it just sits there and if the bailee behaves himself then it never gets 'wasted'.

As I doubt he has enough money to bail out someone on serious charges, he probably would need a loan... I know I couldn't raise 20k...

The problem is not raising the $20k (I don't know how destitute you are, but given that a car costs much more than that, I'd guess that most families can find a way to come up with $20k if they need it). The problem is coming up with some kind of collateral worth the $200k face value of the bond. As Broomstick says, a house works, but that's quite a risk (and besides, it only works if the house is paid off, or at least has $200k of equity in it, after subtracting any outstanding loans).

The problem with raising the $20k is that it's gone after it gets paid. The $200k bail gets paid by the bail bondsman who does so for the $20k. That's how he makes his money. This is also how bounty hunters get their money (Bail bondsmen hire them to get the fugitives, so they can get back their money). If you can manage to put up the $200k for the bail yourself, then you get it back when the trial is over.

[Lord Baal]

Very rarely, though.

What you will here sometimes is, say: "You forgot your wife's birthday? She's gonna kill you, man." In that case it's an obvious joke- but it's only used among people who know each other well enough to know it's a joke.

I'll have this present, thanks for the guidance
I guess the word is not used as lightly on "here" as it is used on "here"(my real location).