Pacifism...

[Rob Wilson]

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Biased opinion on the definition, but you admitted it. Furthermore, pacifism resolves more firmly to the nations rather than to communal conflicts and disputes.

Snippety, snip snip

For someone that didn't want a debate you sure are doing a lot of it in this thread.
And if you were a true pacifist you would simply have ignored Beans replies if you felt they would lead to conflict.

[Mr Bean]

Biased opinion on the definition, but you admitted it.

No I pointed out the flaws in the defintion, Much like Dog-A organism does not provided a good defintion because it does not contain all the relvant information like what a dog does or what it looks like

Furthermore, pacifism resolves more firmly to the nations rather than to communal conflicts and disputes.

The word Passifism existed before Nation states ever arose another reason why the defintion on Diccionary.com is so terrible

Why?

Prehaps this will help
You-The Sun will rise tommrow
Me-What makes you so sure it will?
You-Nu-uh, you gotta prove it won't rise first before I have to prove it will

In other words you asking me to prove a negative, a logical no-no

So I can't have one opinion to myself....

If its well reasoned and insightful then yes, However if you decided to spout opion rather than counter the points I'm making then no

In any case, he is at least concentrating on only one wareffort - but it seems unlikely that he'll look at too many home issues, at this point.

The Tax Cuts, Tort Reform, New Justicies, Elimantions of older ones, Medicare, Home-Land Security, Education(Which BTW we are spending more on per student then ever even adjusting for inflation and I don't me 5%-10% we are talking about a 40% increase since two years ago)

Anything else he(Or rather his cronies) are not focusing on?

He's a warmongering fool, otherwise we wouldn't be in the predicament we're in! (IMO, anyways).

Yes if we ignore the problem of course it will go away (In prove fact)

You can be pacific about some things. You're being an idiot, Bean. That's bullshit, telling me there's no grey areas.

If the folks are not pasficists only use War when nessary how can you call yourself a Pasficst if you EVER suggest the use of War?

Remeber Ver, The only diffrence between you and me on is that I see War as nessary some-times while you don't, If you do see it as nessary, Your not a passifist

Oh, wait, you said 85 the first time around. As for vegans that have lived that long.. I don't know - don't believe there have been many vegans around in the past 65 years or so, but I may be wrong. Furthermore - what does it matter? Does it matter more how long someone lived, or what they did in that life?

The point is you said there were alot of Succesful Vegans, I'm point out the fact that those who shove deadly chemicals into their body on a daily basies for many Decades(Smokers) Live longer than your avarage Vegan

[Coyote]

Genuine, 100% US Army issue non-pacifist.

While I admire the ideals and dreams of pacifism, I think it is unrealistic in the scope of human nature. There will always be people who will take what doesn't belong to them and will only be stopped by force.

[haas mark]

Look, Bean, I am just going to drop it. I misstated my stance in the beginning as a pacific person. I misinterprested the meaning of a pacifist. IN any case, the subject is conceded (on most points) and dropped.

[Nathan F]

Without war, there can never be peace.

Technically that should be, "without discord there can never be peace as a dictionary defined word, the core concept of peace would however be completely intact and as the only way of life would not need singular definition nor specialist wording." Not quite as effective as a slogan though.

LOL! Does kind of loose the jist of it...