NBC Republican Debate @ the Reagan Dome

[Mr Bean]

Watch it live http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 7#44427027
Will be doing feedback as warranted.

First note Governor Perry is attending.
Second note
95% of all jobs are above minimum wage, next obvious how FAR above minimum wage?

[Steel]

95% of all jobs are above minimum wage, next obvious how FAR above minimum wage?

Do you mean minimum or average there? Because you cant sell "Only 5% of jobs pay a wage so low as to be illegal!" as a positive thing in a sane world.

[Rogue 9]

95% of all jobs are above minimum wage, next obvious how FAR above minimum wage?

Do you mean minimum or average there? Because you cant sell "Only 5% of jobs pay a wage so low as to be illegal!" as a positive thing in a sane world.

It's not illegal to be exactly at minimum wage.

[Mr Bean]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

[Block]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

It's hard to watch honestly. Not one of them sounds intelligent, let alone worth voting for. They're repeating "States rights!" and sprinting to the right as fast as they can.

[Aniron]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

It's hard to watch honestly. Not one of them sounds intelligent, let alone worth voting for. They're repeating "States rights!" and sprinting to the right as fast as they can.

I stopped watching after 20 minutes because everything is a talking point with these people. Bachmann said Obamacare costs jobs but never elaborated on why: she just mentioned a personal story. Ron Paul continues to show his lunacy about government regulation.

My favorite parts, however, are the information tidbits that pop up on the screen. How is the fact that Bachmann cared for 23 foster children relevant?

[Block]

Oh for the love of... Perry wants the Fed to send troops to secure the border, yet they want funding cuts all over the place. Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

[Flagg]

Oh for the love of... Perry wants the Fed to send troops to secure the border, yet they want funding cuts all over the place. Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

National Guard Troops are securing the border already.

Any of them bring up that Perry cut the volunteer firefighter budget in Texas by 75% yet?

[Block]

Oh for the love of... Perry wants the Fed to send troops to secure the border, yet they want funding cuts all over the place. Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

National Guard Troops are securing the border already.

Any of them bring up that Perry cut the volunteer firefighter budget in Texas by 75% yet?

Oh I know they are, but he wants 3000 more to be sent, and the money for when they're on active duty long term comes from the federal government in one way or another. Bachmann's answer to the immigration question was not at all related to the question.

[General Mung Beans]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

It's hard to watch honestly. Not one of them sounds intelligent, let alone worth voting for. They're repeating "States rights!" and sprinting to the right as fast as they can.

There's nothing wrong with "states' rights" inherently-the US is a federal republic after all-and no states rights does not trump the right of the states to deny people basic personal and civil rights.

[Mr Bean]

Gingrich is some what impressive at times
Ron Paul is waaaaaaaaaaay out there as in "They will use the border fence to keep us in!"
Cain is getting shut down, he tried to break in nearly a dozen times by my count and the moderators are not letting him get in.

Romeny and his Utah Governor friend are physically hard to tell apart at times I saw Hunstman speaking and thought it was Romoney for a second.

I stopped watching after 20 minutes because everything is a talking point with these people.

The back and forth is the best bits.

[The Yosemite Bear]

dude you expected anything else from Bachmann? She's more non-sequitor than ME, and I've got aspergers.

[General Mung Beans]

One of the most critical questions for Mr. Perry going into this debate was how he would handle his past comments about Social Security, which he called a "failure" and a "Ponzi scheme."

His decision? Double down on the criticism in the face of questioning.

Mr. Perry tried to argue that he does not want to "go back and change 70 years" of the program. But he repeated his claim that it is a "monstrous lie" to tell young people that the program will be there for them.

But if Mr. Perry thought that he could explain his comments away that way, Mr. Romney was having none of it. In one of the most direct attacks yet, Mr. Romney accused Mr. Perry of telling "tens of millions of Americans" that Social Security is a failure.

"Our nominee has to be someone who isn't committed to abolish Social Security but is committed to saving Social Security," Mr. Romney said. "I will never say by any measure it is a failure."

[Block]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

It's hard to watch honestly. Not one of them sounds intelligent, let alone worth voting for. They're repeating "States rights!" and sprinting to the right as fast as they can.

There's nothing wrong with "states' rights" inherently-the US is a federal republic after all-and no states rights does not trump the right of the states to deny people basic personal and civil rights.

There's a lot wrong with state's rights in the way that they mean them.

[Flagg]

This debate has been illuminating as the knives come out while Gingrich pretends to be above the fray so far.
Lots of comments to come once this thing is over.

It's hard to watch honestly. Not one of them sounds intelligent, let alone worth voting for. They're repeating "States rights!" and sprinting to the right as fast as they can.

There's nothing wrong with "states' rights" inherently-the US is a federal republic after all-and no states rights does not trump the right of the states to deny people basic personal and civil rights.

States rights is a dogwhistle term used to wink at the racists and secessionists.

[Lord Zentei]

Jon Huntsman taking a strong stand for science and opposing global warming denialism.

Perry responds with bullshit on risking the economy by accepting global warming, claiming that the science is "not settled".

[Block]

Jon Huntsman taking a strong stand for science and opposing global warming denialism.

Perry responds with bullshit on risking the economy by accepting global warming, claiming that the science is "not settled".

and more scaremongering from Bachmann.

[Mr Bean]

Further notes
They never mentioned the fact that Texas is on fire and Perry cut all the firefighter funding I'm surprised.

Ron Paul came off as pretty likable in the previous debates but he's in full Conspiracy Theorist mode this debate

Love the last second cut away to Ms Reagan, wow she's not looking well

[Lord Zentei]

Huntsman and Perry were the most charismatic during this debate. No prizes for guessing that I'm rooting for the former of the two to get the nod, though I'm increasingly concerned that we might be seeing candidate Perry for 2012.

Bachmann and Ron Paul came off as crazies, and Cain stumbled.

[Dalton]

Just got out of the control room. The bags of candy helped quell my brain from wanting to leap out of my skull and punch Rick Perry in his smug face.

[PainRack]

No donuts Dalton?

[Dalton]

No donuts Dalton?

That's for AM specials.

[The Yosemite Bear]

they are letting you play with Anti Matter Rob?

[Dalton]

they are letting you play with Anti Matter Rob?

Michael Steele and Pat Buchanan are MSNBC analysts. We've got experience.

[The Yosemite Bear]

glad to see even after all this you haven't lost your sense of humour. (yes, I'm becoming anglophibed, too much BBC which my fundy, mormon, fox watching roomie hates, almost as much as he hates me watching msnbc.)