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Oh, sweet zombie Christ in a tutu!
I just found out that Kent Hovind is coming to my school to tangle with an anthropology professor. While I do want to go and watch the debate, I don't want to deliberately surround myself with so many rabid creationists as I'm sure will be there.
What to do, what to do...
What to do, what to do...
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He's debating an actual scientist instead of a layman who thinks he's better educated than he actually is? That's not usually his style.
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Well, unless your anthopology professor is complately retarded I'd go there just to see Hovind get his ass handed to him.
BTW this is very bizzare... Hovind is a cook and his arquments are so stupid that a five year old should be able to rip them apart.
Why on Earth is going up against an actual scientist? Machocism, a not so un-expected fit of insanity or is there something more to this then meets the eye... Maybe it is a conspiracy.
BTW this is very bizzare... Hovind is a cook and his arquments are so stupid that a five year old should be able to rip them apart.
Why on Earth is going up against an actual scientist? Machocism, a not so un-expected fit of insanity or is there something more to this then meets the eye... Maybe it is a conspiracy.
Go! You're bound to have fun.
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Actually, it's at Rutgers. The e-mail said April 1st. So if you're in Jersey around then, feel free to come on down and check things out.
And having thought about it more, and hearing your opinions, I think I will go. Now I am faced with another question. Do I heckle, or keep my yap shut?
And having thought about it more, and hearing your opinions, I think I will go. Now I am faced with another question. Do I heckle, or keep my yap shut?
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Assault charges?Superman wrote:Oh, and when the Q & A period begins, perhaps you could ask him if assualt charges have been dropped.
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"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." - Schiller, Die Jungfrau von Orleans, III vi.
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Hovind is up an assault charges for barging into one of his tennant's apartments, and attacking her boyfriend. They were...GASP... living together.
This is public information. Try to look up criminal information in Florida under his name. He has more than a few, most notably for not paying taxes. He is a Grade A nut. His son keeps getting into legal trouble too.
This is public information. Try to look up criminal information in Florida under his name. He has more than a few, most notably for not paying taxes. He is a Grade A nut. His son keeps getting into legal trouble too.
If I were you I'd contact this anthropology professor to inform him of Hovind's style. Hovind will play to the audience's gargantuan ignorance of all things scientific and make outrageous claims, and make it look like he won.
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Sound like anyone from the SWvsST debate??Vympel wrote:If I were you I'd contact this anthropology professor to inform him of Hovind's style. Hovind will play to the audience's gargantuan ignorance of all things scientific and make outrageous claims, and make it look like he won.
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Hovind will attempt to engage in a theatrical debate, with a LOT of sloganeering, carefully crafted one-liners, folksy but monstrously inaccurate analogies, etc. People who are stupid are vulnerable to this style of circus-act, and unfortunately, most people are stupid.
There's a reason Hovind has consistently refused to engage in WRITTEN debate; theatrics don't work as well in written debate.
There's a reason Hovind has consistently refused to engage in WRITTEN debate; theatrics don't work as well in written debate.
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Don't heckle, it'll just give him ammunition.Alferd Packer wrote:Actually, it's at Rutgers. The e-mail said April 1st. So if you're in Jersey around then, feel free to come on down and check things out.
And having thought about it more, and hearing your opinions, I think I will go. Now I am faced with another question. Do I heckle, or keep my yap shut?
But when the Q&A comes around lay into the fucker. And remember, take the piss with your questions.
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Questions like: "Dr. Hovind, where did you receive your doctorate, and precisely what kind of doctorate is it?" are always fun. Also, try "Do you feel that the Flintstones was historically accurate?"
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OK, if you guys have any particular questions, post them here and I'll bring a list with me to the debate.
The Flinstones one is going at the top of the list. So will any questions regarding his criminal record.
The Flinstones one is going at the top of the list. So will any questions regarding his criminal record.
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Hey, which Rutgers campus? If it's Rutgers Camden, I could make it.
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With that date, are you sure it's legit?Alferd Packer wrote:Actually, it's at Rutgers. The e-mail said April 1st.
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