Stupid vegan thinks dogs shouldn't eat meat!

[Darth Servo]

I knew that such a passage existed, but I didn't know chapter and verse. Thanks for the ammo, DS.

Any time.

[Kelly Antilles]

Some people just don't deserve to live.

[Darth Gojira]

Yes, it's true. I ran into a woman who's both a fundie AND a vegan. Not only does she spout a lot of bullshit about how we shouldn't eat meat because "in the kingdom of God, the lion will lay down with the lamb", but she berates my wife and I because we feed our dog meat!!

She seriously thinks dogs (natural predators with no molars, hence no ability to chew vegetables) should eat a vegan diet!!

Hear that, Mr. Wong? That is the sound of stupidity.

[Slartibartfast]

My dog has the amazing ability to grab a sandwich in his mouth and somehow process it so that he swallow the meat and a good chunk of the bread, but can spit out perfectly intact pieces of lettuce. Not bad for a little guy with no thumbs

This reminds me of one of my old dogs who could remove all the remnants of gravy and meat from finished bowls of stew put down without so much as touch the vegetable matter inside or would take sandwichs that concealed medication pills, wolf down the sandwich, and then spit out the pill. Dogs are very talented at that sort of thing. Nimble mouthes.

My grandma once left a box of chocolates for diabetics on a low table, and the two dogs I had back then (not big dogs) opened the box, UNWRAPPED each single chocolate and ate them, and left every wrap completely undamaged in the same spot they had found it.

One of them would always steal raw sweet potatoes from the drawer and munch it in the garden. I tried to give her grapes but she always spit them out, apparently she didn't realize that the edible part was inside.

The other (younger) one for some reason loved grapes and tomatoes freaky.

Meat is really expensive here, we usually give them dog chow pellets or whatever, and sweet potato, and leftovers of rice and stew and sometimes chicken.

There was a guy who dated my mom years ago, he was a freak vegetarian, and he was going downhill from there! At some point he started giving his dog veggies until the poor critter died. Then the guy himself started getting malnutrition problems, at some point he just lied on his bed to die. He said he wanted to die and stuff, and their priest went to see him, talked to him, then told his brothers and parents that he wanted to die and that they should respect his wishes.

Of course, his brother didn't want any of that, so he kicked his skinny ass out of the bed and force-fed him some juicy steak down his throat all day long (I mean actual cooked beef, you perverts! ), and put him in the hospital and they brought him back to life.

The man recovered from his insanity, said he didn't remember wanted to die, also that he wouldn't have said that anyway because it was stupid and stuff. Apparently not enough nutrients were reaching his brain back then.

[Slartibartfast]

Just to add to my last post: don't blame vegetarians for being stupid. It's not their fault - they probably meant well for their own health in the beginning, but after that their brain starts to rot from lack of proper nutrition

[Slartibartfast]

What I want to know is, if dogs shouldn't eat meat, just what the hell should they eat? I mean, I only feed my dog special dry dog food, but that's loaded with meat protein and all that jazz.
Has this lady ever watched a dog eat grass? It's freaking hilarious, because they're no damn good at it. They kind of snap at it, and struggle, and eventually tear a few blades off. These animals should be eating meat.
Anyways, dog jaws are incapable of moving from side to side, not to mention they have no molars. This makes eating vegetables kind of tricky.

They do that when they're constipated. Eating grass gives them a mild diarrhea or whatever.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I was about to suggest introducing her to a pack of wild wolves so that she could try and do the same, but I like this idea better

Wild wolves won't attack people unless they are rabid. What you need an angry wolverine, who are some of the meanest fuckers in the animal kingdom.

Wolverine (Gulo gulo).

I always thought they were dog related, but I really would love one as a pet and house guard.

[Gil Hamilton]

Wolverine (Gulo gulo).

I always thought they were dog related, but I really would love one as a pet and house guard.

Man, bears don't even fuck with wolverines. They are too vicious and tough and damage resistant. A pet wolverine would probably maim you for shits and giggles.

[Enricko]

Man, bears don't even fuck with wolverines. They are too vicious and tough and damage resistant. A pet wolverine would probably maim you for shits and giggles.

Up here, in the frozen lands, there's some interesting anecdotes (or myth?) of lumberjacks who had to put bears out of their misery after the poor creatures were attacked by wolverines...

[Lagmonster]

That opening post...that's awful for the poor animal, really. Luckily, it's easier to get someone yanked up for cruelty to animals than it is to get them yanked up for child abuse. When I worked for the labs, we underwent all but hourly checks by dignitaries and officers and concerned citizens making sure that the animals we worked with weren't being treated inhumanely.

What I want to know is, and this is viciously off-topic, HOW do you meet people who yell at you about your animal's diet?

[THEHOOLIGANJEDI]

Yes, it's true. I ran into a woman who's both a fundie AND a vegan. Not only does she spout a lot of bullshit about how we shouldn't eat meat because "in the kingdom of God, the lion will lay down with the lamb", but she berates my wife and I because we feed our dog meat!!

She seriously thinks dogs (natural predators with no molars, hence no ability to chew vegetables) should eat a vegan diet!! I sincerely hope she never gets a dog, since it will die or worse yet, suffer horribly of malnutrition under her care.

I can't believe this stupid bitch vegan fundie moron actually had the gall to tell me that I was a bad pet owner because I feed my dog meat

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!! What a fucking stupid bitch!!! Those self righteous fascists shoud be sent to the sun on a rocket. What's worse is that some of these kooks even try to make bullshit scientific claims why humans shouldn't eat meat. UGH!!!! If I recall the only primate that actually doesn't eat meat are Gorillas. I thought those aruments were the silliest ones I've heard, Mike that one tops my list of stupid vegan arguments.

[Shadowhawk]

Cats are such fun critters ain't they? We've had a grand total of two mice in my house.. one was caught on an adhesive trap when one of my cats tried to chase it down, the other... well I never saw the rest of the other, just found it's severed head in the middle of the living room floor one day (you'd think there'd be bloodstains on teh carpet to but nope, clean as a whistle).

Our cats would regularly leave gifts like that.
Opened the door one day, only to see a head and a tail on the doorstep. Nothing else. Sometimes it was just the head. Most often, though, it was the whole corpse.
I had some mice in my room for a couple months (through the hole I drilled in the floor to get phone & network wires through), feasting on all the food I keep around. We tried glue traps, but none of 'em ever worked (I'd see little mouse footprints on them). My cat was very attracted by the noises they made behind my furniture, and I eventually let her help me catch the mice. Twice, I was able to move furniture around and scare out the mouse, which my cat promptly caught. Then I ushered her outside.
Normally, when my cats caught something outside and the creature was still alive when they came to present it to us, we'd get it away from them and let it go (happened most often with snakes). With these mice, though, I let her have them.

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

Perhaps she should try getting a dog and feeding it a vegan diet. Maybe she won't try shoving her nonsense down everyone else's throats.

However, it is nice that some animal rights wackos have stopped being hypocrites, and are telling people that carnivorous animals shouldn't eat meat while telling humans the same thing.

[Singular Quartet]

My dog has the amazing ability to grab a sandwich in his mouth and somehow process it so that he swallow the meat and a good chunk of the bread, but can spit out perfectly intact pieces of lettuce. Not bad for a little guy with no thumbs

My dog likes pizza, but hates olives. When he gets veggitarian pizza, after he's done, there's always a nice neat pile of olives off to the side.

[Admiral Valdemar]

My dog has the amazing ability to grab a sandwich in his mouth and somehow process it so that he swallow the meat and a good chunk of the bread, but can spit out perfectly intact pieces of lettuce. Not bad for a little guy with no thumbs

My dog likes pizza, but hates olives. When he gets veggitarian pizza, after he's done, there's always a nice neat pile of olives off to the side.

I love how dogs do that. Mine always spits the vegetable pieces out of his meal to one side of his bowl. So in the end there will be an empty bowl, a full of meat Labrador and a mound of green and orange vegie pieces on the floor.

[Wicked Pilot]

This lady needs to be thrown into the lion's cage at the local zoo, where she can take her anti-meat crusade to the larger of carnivores.

[Andrew J.]

My dog will eat anything except mushrooms. I've seen both her and my cat try to eat blades of grass on occasion.

Oh, and the fundie bitch needs to die. Pecked to death by sparrows, that's how I'd prefer it.

[neoolong]

My dog will eat anything except mushrooms. I've seen both her and my cat try to eat blades of grass on occasion.

Oh, and the fundie bitch needs to die. Pecked to death by sparrows, that's how I'd prefer it.

I think Cartman and what he did with chili would be a good plan here. Oh, vegan chili then.

[Edi]

Man, bears don't even fuck with wolverines. They are too vicious and tough and damage resistant. A pet wolverine would probably maim you for shits and giggles.

Up here, in the frozen lands, there's some interesting anecdotes (or myth?) of lumberjacks who had to put bears out of their misery after the poor creatures were attacked by wolverines...

Not myth, I think. Wolverines have that vicious reputation for a reason. The thing is no longer than three feet or so, but can weigh up to 80 pounds, and they won't back down from a fight if push comes to shove. There have been confirmed cases here of a single wolverine killing a whole herd of reindeer (50+ creatures) out of sheer bloodlust, but that kind of individuals are tracked down and shot. There's more of them on the Russian side of the border than in Finland proper, though. Incidentally, if you ever get a close look at a wolverine e.g. at a zoo, pay attention to its paws. They're about the size of the human hand, and if their claws are scaled up versions of badger claws, you definitely don't want to be at the business end of those of an angry wolverine... *shudder*

A wolverine would tear up a black bear in a hurry, and quite possibly come out better off from a confrontation with a grizzly/brown bear too. Usually they just avoid each other because getting into a scrap involves far too great a risk of serious or crippling injury and ultimately death.

Of the wild animals here, there are seven that I would not want to cross, and they are ural owl (strix uralensis), great gray owl (strix nebulosa), snowy owl (Nyctea scandiaca), wolverine, bear, wild boar and badger, in that order. If you people wonder about the owls being on the list, see the Worst Injuries thread and what happened to my father. A Ural owl nearly ripped his eyes out some fifteen years ago, and it will attack anyone and anything that goes near its nest and young, ditto for the great gray and snowy owls (and sometimes eagle owls, though that's pretty rare). Wolverines, wolves, badgers, foxes, bears, raccoon dogs, minks, none are exempt, and all give them a wide berth. Most smart humans will too. For more info on owls and images, see http://www.owls.org/index.html.

Edi

[XPViking]

Obviously the vegan lady is crazy. Dogs need meat.

The only thing he fears is Korean Kimchi. One whiff and he runs away. (feeding his dog)

Are you a sadistic individual? Kimchi puts hair on your chest.

XPViking

[Setzer]

I found my dog Pippa likes popcorn. I have to be careful not too drop any.

[Zoink]

Of the wild animals here, there are seven that I would not want to cross, and they are ural owl (strix uralensis), great gray owl (strix nebulosa), snowy owl (Nyctea scandiaca), wolverine, bear, wild boar and badger, in that order.

Are you sure you aren't overdoing the owl's danger because of personal experience? It possible to physically overpower these owls (with obvious, and perhaps serious injury to oneself)?

Where I am in Canada, the black bears are rather shy, but in the west parts, with the grizzlies, if they decide you are food (usually only in night attacks) you are usually D-E-D.

[Edi]

Of the wild animals here, there are seven that I would not want to cross, and they are ural owl (strix uralensis), great gray owl (strix nebulosa), snowy owl (Nyctea scandiaca), wolverine, bear, wild boar and badger, in that order.

Are you sure you aren't overdoing the owl's danger because of personal experience? It possible to physically overpower these owls (with obvious, and perhaps serious injury to oneself)?

Where I am in Canada, the black bears are rather shy, but in the west parts, with the grizzlies, if they decide you are food (usually only in night attacks) you are usually D-E-D.

Perhaps I should clarify: You can scratch the owls completely off the list unless it is nesting season (March through May), then they become dangerous. Those specific species of owls will attack anything that comes near their nest (at least 100 m radius, possibly more), especially if there are young in the nest, or even worse, young that have left the nest and cannot fly yet (this was why my dad got attacked, there was a fledgling a few meters away off the road in the woods when he walked by). Once the young learn to fly, the mother stops being aggressive. It's no problem if you know where the owl's nest is, but if you don't, the results are likely to be bad.

You can't really overpower them, an owl in flight is completely silent, and they will attack by swooping in on you, circling from behind where you can't see them and then striking from the side and ripping your eyes out. Even if they don't succeed in that, ~600 g to 1 kg of owl hitting you at ~60 km/h is quite enough to give you concussion. Of course, if you wear a helmet, it's the owl that is likely to get hurt while you get off with just a bump, but the best protection is a heavy fur hat that covers the cheeks and back of the neck and wearing that with protective goggles. This is what my father does when going to ring the young birds before they leave the nest (he's an amateur ornitologist, been for 45 years). It's still too much trouble if the nest is close to your house, though, because you'd have to wear that outfit all the time. That year we couldn't go to our summer place for nearly over a month in the spring because the nest was just 20 m away from the sauna and the young were all over the grounds, learning to fly. I was there when we ringed them, the owl made a pass at Dad then but my brother's shrieking scared it away (must have stunned the bird, my ears were ringing). It was a couple of weeks after that that the attack happened, and Dad was alone.

Of course, if you run into bears here, they are more dangerous, but they're also a lot rarer than owls. You can usually get away from them if you keep calm and don't panic, because they can easily find enough food that they won't bother with humans. It's when they've cubs with them that it gets more dicey. But they are not much of a problem, and if they get that way, they'll be either shot or put to sleep and transported somewhere else. The problem with the owls is that they're more aggressive than any bear at certain times, you won't see them until they hit you, you can't negotiate or try to back away from them, and you can't outrun them (not that you can outrun a bear either, though). Also, a bear is more dangerous than a wolverine usually, but if the choice between the two when pissed off, I'll take the angry bear over the angry wolverine any day, thank you very much.

Edi

[Darth Gojira]

Man, bears don't even fuck with wolverines. They are too vicious and tough and damage resistant. A pet wolverine would probably maim you for shits and giggles.

Up here, in the frozen lands, there's some interesting anecdotes (or myth?) of lumberjacks who had to put bears out of their misery after the poor creatures were attacked by wolverines...

Not myth, I think. Wolverines have that vicious reputation for a reason. The thing is no longer than three feet or so, but can weigh up to 80 pounds, and they won't back down from a fight if push comes to shove. There have been confirmed cases here of a single wolverine killing a whole herd of reindeer (50+ creatures) out of sheer bloodlust, but that kind of individuals are tracked down and shot. There's more of them on the Russian side of the border than in Finland proper, though. Incidentally, if you ever get a close look at a wolverine e.g. at a zoo, pay attention to its paws. They're about the size of the human hand, and if their claws are scaled up versions of badger claws, you definitely don't want to be at the business end of those of an angry wolverine... *shudder*

A wolverine would tear up a black bear in a hurry, and quite possibly come out better off from a confrontation with a grizzly/brown bear too. Usually they just avoid each other because getting into a scrap involves far too great a risk of serious or crippling injury and ultimately death.

Of the wild animals here, there are seven that I would not want to cross, and they are ural owl (strix uralensis), great gray owl (strix nebulosa), snowy owl (Nyctea scandiaca), wolverine, bear, wild boar and badger, in that order. If you people wonder about the owls being on the list, see the Worst Injuries thread and what happened to my father. A Ural owl nearly ripped his eyes out some fifteen years ago, and it will attack anyone and anything that goes near its nest and young, ditto for the great gray and snowy owls (and sometimes eagle owls, though that's pretty rare). Wolverines, wolves, badgers, foxes, bears, raccoon dogs, minks, none are exempt, and all give them a wide berth. Most smart humans will too. For more info on owls and images, see http://www.owls.org/index.html.






Edi

(Singing) "The night Hedwig went crazy...."

[Majin Gojira]

I was about to suggest introducing her to a pack of wild wolves so that she could try and do the same, but I like this idea better

Wild wolves won't attack people unless they are rabid. What you need an angry wolverine, who are some of the meanest fuckers in the animal kingdom.

Wolverine (Gulo gulo).

I always thought they were dog related, but I really would love one as a pet and house guard.

Aren't they related to badgers and weasels?