Fleet strength for the USN

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-04 06:39pm

Anyone know where I can find this? I Googled it but all I got was either antiqued information, essays, or budgets, not actual numbers.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-03-04 06:40pm

If it were mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee....

I'd try www.navy.mil

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-04 06:42pm

Oh, thanks! I tried finding that site, but I guess I didn't think of .mil...

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-03-04 06:42pm

In fact, try http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/new ... tatus.html

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-04 06:48pm

eh, it's good, but it doesn't have a complete breakdown- just lists total ship strength and submarines. I'm looking more for X number of carriers, X number of destroyers, etc.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 06:53pm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... index.html

Bold is ships currently in service, normal text is older ships no longer in service. Italics represent projects currently under development.

Also http://www.warships1.com/US.htm and http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/

el blanco · Post by **el blanco** » 2003-03-04 06:56pm

That would probably be classified, the way the navy guards things about the nuclear carriers and Los Angeles class subs. There used to be a site where you could actually track the movements of the carrier groups, but the gubbment shut it down.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-03-04 07:00pm

And whhhhhhy do you want to know this, hmmmmmmm? Planning to visit Iraq or North Korea and take a "tour" of the governmental buildings?

(j/k)

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 07:10pm

el blanco wrote:That would probably be classified, the way the navy guards things about the nuclear carriers and Los Angeles class subs. There used to be a site where you could actually track the movements of the carrier groups, but the gubbment shut it down.

The US has not concealed its actual number and types of vessels since 1945, when losses where generally concealed until they could be announced alongside a victory.

The only thing that's kept secret is some internal aspects of warships. For example civilian cameras have never seen the engine room of a 688.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-04 07:13pm

Or a Seawolf I believe...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 07:18pm

theski wrote:Or a Seawolf I believe...

Every sub built within the last 30 years or so actually. Its only in the last decade or so that anything internal been seen. Go back to the cold war, and you couldn't find a photo of a USN sub in dry dock. Even today there not that common and generally don't show the propellers.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-04 07:24pm

Sea, was it Toshiba or Hitachi that got the plans for the ultra quiet props during the early 80's

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-03-04 07:25pm

I'd try www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-04 07:30pm

This site might help.
www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk
there is info about the USN and other countries naval forces.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 07:33pm

Lonestar wrote:I'd try www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.

FAS sucks shit, especially for this, since it hasn't had an update to its conventional military sections since 2000.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-04 07:34pm

Hah! Found a nice bit of info from warships1...Russian friend of mine claimed Russia had 22 carriers. They only have 1!

Bwahahaha!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-04 07:36pm

Lonestar wrote:I'd try www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.

FAS is not a very good source.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 07:44pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Hah! Found a nice bit of info from warships1...Russian friend of mine claimed Russia had 22 carriers. They only have 1!

Bwahahaha!

With less then half the airgroup of USN vessels, 18 Flankers vs. 50 Hornets and Tomcats, along with four E-2s and a varying number of EA-6 prowlers and S-3 Vikings. Though USN carriers can for the most part support up to 75 fixed wing aircraft plus as many helicopters as the Kuznetsov.

22 sounds more like the total number of active Russian surface combatants.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2003-03-04 07:45pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Lonestar wrote:I'd try www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.
FAS sucks shit, especially for this, since it hasn't had an update to its conventional military sections since 2000.

That's okay, I haven't used it since 2000.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-03-04 07:52pm

All Hands Magazine puts out a year in review issue annually. They contain listings of all U.S. ships, air squadrons, weapons systems, and all sorts of useful info. I'm in the process of tracking down an online version for you.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-03-04 08:00pm

Here you go:

Surface Ships

Submarines

Carriers

Everything Else Navy

I hope this helps.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-04 08:01pm

Wow...thanks a lot, everyone.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-03-04 08:10pm

This is another good site.

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-04 08:12pm

Alyeska wrote:This is another good site.

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/

Which is why I linked to it fifteen post ago

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-03-04 08:15pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Alyeska wrote:This is another good site.

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/usa/
Which is why I linked to it fifteen post ago

I saw your Warships1 link and didn't notice the Hazegray one.