US Aircraft carrier to run on Windows 2000 O_O

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-05 12:30am

http://www.gcn.com/vol19_no27/dod/2868-1.html

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-05 12:32am

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-03-05 12:33am

Shinova wrote:http://www.gcn.com/vol19_no27/dod/2868-1.html

The Catapult has performed an Illegal operation and so has been shut down. Do you wish to send an error report to microsoft?
[sound of plane crashing in background]

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-03-05 12:34am

“This is a new area for us,” said Keith Hodson, a Microsoft Government spokesman. “Windows-based products have not traditionally been associated with Defense Department-specific mission-critical applications.”

I wonder why...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-03-05 12:34am

No. Fucking. Way.

I can just *imagine* what will happen with this...

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-03-05 12:35am

Shinova wrote:http://www.gcn.com/vol19_no27/dod/2868-1.html

Sir the Radar screens gone all blue!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-05 12:36am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:So?

.......

Spanky...it's Windows...on an aircraft carrier's computers....

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-05 12:38am

I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-05 12:39am

Windows 2000 is actually fairly stable, but no good can come of this, unless the military goes over the code with a fine-toothed comb.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-03-05 12:42am

phongn wrote:Windows 2000 is actually fairly stable, but no good can come of this, unless the military goes over the code with a fine-toothed comb.

I think there was something about China going to use Win, and Microsoft letting them look at the source...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-05 12:43am

Microsoft has opened up the code to government institutions, IIRC.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-05 12:45am

Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.

The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-05 12:46am

So Windows 2000 and its successors. Doesn't that mean Win XP.

Oy.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-05 12:47am

Pu-239 wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.
The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.

Gates wants to take over the world, one aircraft carrier at a time

j/k

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-03-05 12:53am

I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-05 12:54am

Pu-239 wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.
The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.

W2K Datacenter Edition is a custom-designed versions, too, and Microsoft does not seem to be jerking people around on it. They may be many things, but they aren't stupid enough to do something to a US CVN.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-05 12:55am

Trytostaydead wrote:I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-05 12:57am

phongn wrote: Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?

Hey, fuckups happen in real life, man

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-05 01:00am

phongn wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?

IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-05 01:03am

Sea Skimmer wrote: IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.

They even have email???

Note to self: Attend a tour of one of those things during lifetime.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-05 01:13am

Shinova wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.
They even have email???

Note to self: Attend a tour of one of those things during lifetime.

The capacity was added in the mid 1990's to both carriers and other surface ships. Battlegroups send and receive millions of emails on every deployment.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-03-05 01:17am

Couldn't we dig up Windows 95 and give it to the Iraqi's?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-03-05 01:24am

Well, I suppose the plus side of this is that if it fucks up badly it'll prompt the government to seriously go after Microsoft.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-05 01:24am

MKSheppard wrote:
phongn wrote: Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?
Hey, fuckups happen in real life, man

Yes, they do. OTOH, critical parts on ships tend to be segregated from each other to avoid being hacked (IIRC, much of today's ships use UNIX or some varient thereof).

I'm hoping the Navy and Microsoft gets it right; the old Smart Ship program didn't turn out so well - maybe they learned from it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-05 01:26am

It would depend on whether the project is guided by someone with a brain, or by Microsoft consultants. Microsoft's modus operandi is integration, integration, integration. Secure computing's modus operandi is segregation, segregation, segregation. Something has to give.

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