Modern Earth vs Chaos Daemons

[Purple]

I don't think anyone ever tried to capture one. The usual response to demons is either hug it or kill it with fire.

When you read about daemons abandoning perfectly good bodies, where did they go, and were the new bodies as powerful?
If you have a source, i'm curious on how long it took.

I did not read it but it makes perfect sense. For one thing, a demon is a creature of the imaterium that just happens to posses a material body so that it can interact with our world. If the body is not perfectly good since it's, you know imprisoned in concrete and useless to it there is no reason to believe it could not sever it self from it or just kill it in some way. After all, demons are creatures of the immaterium. There is no reason to believe they can't at the least just rip their body apart. Especially not things like horrors that have gaping mouths spiting flames jumping out left and right etc.

[lordofchange13]

I don't think anyone ever tried to capture one. The usual response to demons is either hug it or kill it with fire.

They can be captured quite easily...with IMPERIAL technology, modern earth would have a better chance of stopping the invasion by making a hippie drum circle then find an effective way to strain Demons. Most lesser Demons can not manipulate their form after entering the materium, and it's the Chaos God or Resident greater demon that can instant recall other demons back to the warp. but their ability to shape shift is irrelevant to there MAGIC POWERS! it is very unlikely that Humans will be able to field any heavy weapon support near the rift.

[Feil]

Suppose that chaos demons are completely indestructible (very generous, given that lesser demons can be brought down easily enough by 40k small arms fire, which is not particularly more lethal than modern small arms fire) and can hunt down and kill one person every two minutes on average. All told, they can kill some 500 million people before the rift closes and they fly away home. Significant, yes, but humanity survives just fine. They can't threaten the species on this time scale without cheating, and if they're cheating, then there's no point in a strict numerical descriptor.

Greater daemons are vulnerable to non-magic weapons, for those who were wondering. You just need a frightfully large amount of them.

[Cykeisme]

You can capture a 40k daemon, but not simply by grabbing its physical form and encasing it in concrete (as has already been discussed on this thread).

From the one example I know of, it requires both 40k technology and arcane rituals.. Marneus Calgar bound a defeated daemon prince to a star fort's warp plasma reactor and an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (a powerful and experienced person who specializes in combating 40k daemons) performed the binding.

[Shroom Man 777]

The daemons get their ass beat by four deadbeat nuclear physicist shmucks from New York and a green ectoplasmic mascot entity with the consistency of boogers. Lady Liberty shoves her torch up a Bloodthirster's ass. A Tzeentchian Lord of Change gets smothered to death by the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. The end.

[Todeswind]

Lesser demons can be killed with swords and axes provided that you can bash them into little bits, as can greater demons if it comes down to it. It's just not particularly fun to do.

[Sinewmire]

As I understand it, Daemons cannot remain manifest in our dimension without a supply of psychic energy, either from rituals, a warp storm, or as is preferred, by releasing a soul from it's body. Killing.

A daemon encased in concrete would basically dissolve after a short time as it's limited power to manifest itself runs out.

[madd0ct0r]

or they could hop skip from human host to human host.

assuming there's no psykers on earth, then they'll only be able to come in by invitation of a cultist - if you're not a natural psyker, sorcery is the only way to do this sort of thing.

human bodies seem to be able to host a demon for at least a few days before falling apart, so they won't get that many extra people that way.

[Connor MacLeod]

you don't have to kill a daemon to banish it, especially since killing a daemon means breaking its body into tiny pieces. You can kill its host body though, which will deprive it of the anchor it has to this world. Or, if it invades via some daemon portal opened up, destroy whatever anchors the portal open (there's usually something - another more powerful daemon acting as an anchor, some sort of statuary, perhaps a shrubbery..) Without access to the warp, the daemons can only sustain themselves through killing, and that is generally only delays the inevitable.

And physical forms (if they take one) can be destroyed by any mundane brute force firepower. Even a Greater Daemon/Daemon prince can be bannished that way (Ig did it in Grey Knights, after all.) and Lesser ones even more so. Its the ones who incorporate from warp portals, and form their bodies from the warp directly, that are a bit harder to kill with mundane firepower (you can do it, its just harder.)

[Number Theoretic]

So, assuming that we could herd them into distinct containment areas, using conventional military ground forces and attack helicopter support, could we set them back significantly by dropping a tactial nuke on them?

[Black Admiral]

Depends on the calibre of daemon - we've seen one survive a lance strike (albeit one set on the "Danger-close fire mission" level, rather than "Char-broil a continent") from a Space Marine battlebarge before - but generally speaking, yes, that ought to work.

[Connor MacLeod]

I think it's more likely that with a portal, you'll just "banish" them though. Much of the lesser daemons, anyhow.

The real key to survival is going to be a.) minimizing casualties and b.) slowing down/delaying the Chaos troops as much as possible. These should be priorities more or less as long as they fight and evacuate civilians, but hemming them in (temporarily) with barriers, and wiping out the daemons via airstrikes should go a long way towards that.

Two things going the modern Earth's way are a.) They have less of a connection to the warp than 40K humans do, which could mean their souls will sustain chaos much less. b.) Chaos isn't known for cooperation or coordinating, which at least means they'll be doing things their own way (and possibly getting each others way), if not actually fighting with each other.

Worst case scenario.. I dont think they could possibly kill everyone on a 7 billion person planet within a year with their numbers fixed that way. Usuaully the main problem of a warp portal is that it means HUGE numbers of daemons pour in.. hundreds of thousands, millions, or more over time. Even if every daemon could kill one person per second they'd only kill about a billion or so tops after 6 months. Which is massive and might extend the duration of the portal longer but.. that assumes far too many things. I also have to wonder at how fast a daemon on foot can move (some like Tzeenthc might be able to use portals to tleeport, but whether they all can I am not sure.)

[Ugolino]

Humanity loses. Why? Corruption. In the background, Chaos isn't a danger because of military strength or lolwarppowers, it's dangerous because you can't reliably stop it from converting people from under you.