I would think it's more about how pony's banded together and created a "holy land" for them selves, then literal creation of the planet.evilsoup wrote:Spoiler
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Bah, we already know how Equestria was made.
On a more serious note, if you take the wording in a literal sense, the "founding" of Equestria could mean that it's a country, rather than the name of the Pony Planet. I guess that may torpedo some fanon, I dunno. But still, I look forward to it. Backstory is awesome, and the fandom didn't collapse over Luna, so it should survive this.
Plus, you can excuse things by saying that it's simply a pageant and thus not a literal historical work, and some liberties were taken. Plenty of wiggle room there.
On a more serious note, if you take the wording in a literal sense, the "founding" of Equestria could mean that it's a country, rather than the name of the Pony Planet. I guess that may torpedo some fanon, I dunno. But still, I look forward to it. Backstory is awesome, and the fandom didn't collapse over Luna, so it should survive this.
Plus, you can excuse things by saying that it's simply a pageant and thus not a literal historical work, and some liberties were taken. Plenty of wiggle room there.
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I'm pretty sure there's dialogue evidence that the Everfree Forest isn't part of Equestria, so we already know that Equestria isn't the whole world.
I'm hoping that Celestia turns up at the end and says 'well done, my little ponies, that is an entirely accurate record of events', and then turns to face the audience and grins a troll grin.Plus, you can excuse things by saying that it's simply a pageant and thus not a literal historical work, and some liberties were taken. Plenty of wiggle room there.
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Actually, Pinkie Pie needs to shout out to the audience (pony and viewer alike), "And that's how I got my Cutie Mark!"
It would be a hilarious callback and you all know it.
Actually, for the Royal Sisters, I want Luna to take the place of the whole theater blinking light system with the Royal Canterlot Voice. "FILLIES AND GENTLECOLTS! THE SHOW WILL BEGIN IN FIVE MINUTES! PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS!"
It would be a hilarious callback and you all know it.
Point taken. But this is fanon we're talking about, here. Anything goes.evilsoup wrote:I'm pretty sure there's dialogue evidence that the Everfree Forest isn't part of Equestria, so we already know that Equestria isn't the whole world.
Actually, for the Royal Sisters, I want Luna to take the place of the whole theater blinking light system with the Royal Canterlot Voice. "FILLIES AND GENTLECOLTS! THE SHOW WILL BEGIN IN FIVE MINUTES! PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS!"
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Oh man, that would be pretty good, and I could see it actually happening.RogueIce wrote:Actually, Pinkie Pie needs to shout out to the audience (pony and viewer alike), "And that's how I got my Cutie Mark!"
Isn't the general fanon that there are other countries out there? Like, a griffon nation and a zebra nation and etc. Well, actually I don't think there's that many fanfics that take place outside of Ponyville, let alone Equestria; so I'm not sure if there is a generally accepted fanon on the issue.
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And now the episode will just be a reenactment of the rock farm.RogueIce wrote:Bah, we already know how Equestria was made.
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French haute couture, please!evilsoup wrote:Isn't the general fanon that there are other countries out there?
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I've watched a few episodes of this, and my opinion is that its...okay, but not as good as Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. Amusingly, I have a friend who is like a male human version of Pinkie Pie. Manic energy, check. Raving insanity, check. Loves to party, check. Lives mostly off of candy, check.
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"She's speaking fancy!!" yeah their have to be other cultures. Didn't Twilight say she has never seen a zebra in Equastria before?Revy wrote:French haute couture, please!evilsoup wrote:Isn't the general fanon that there are other countries out there?
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
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I could use a friend like Pinkie Pie. Feel down? Go hang around with a manic friend!PhilosopherOfSorts wrote:I've watched a few episodes of this, and my opinion is that its...okay, but not as good as Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. Amusingly, I have a friend who is like a male human version of Pinkie Pie. Manic energy, check. Raving insanity, check. Loves to party, check. Lives mostly off of candy, check.
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The only problem being that unlike fictional characters, a real person doesn't have an off switch.
And also one of the ingredients to making a pony is cocaine. -Darth Fanboy.
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There's also this from Dragonshy...lordofchange13 wrote:"She's speaking fancy!!" yeah their have to be other cultures. Didn't Twilight say she has never seen a zebra in Equastria before?Revy wrote:French haute couture, please!evilsoup wrote:Isn't the general fanon that there are other countries out there?
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Which raises a question regarding just how the hell do the other countries view the whole "Celestia raises the sun" thing (and the Moon with Luna...).
Either the thing's a ridiculously elaborate sham for an otherwise incredibly powerful alicorn (which raises some confusing questions) or Celestia really does move the sun up and down... which raises the question as to why she's not the ruler of the ENTIRE PLANET (though, she may just not want to).
The "controlling the weather up to managing the seasons" thing too can be confusing. But really, it would be rather important to know how do the other countries view Celestia?
Either the thing's a ridiculously elaborate sham for an otherwise incredibly powerful alicorn (which raises some confusing questions) or Celestia really does move the sun up and down... which raises the question as to why she's not the ruler of the ENTIRE PLANET (though, she may just not want to).
The "controlling the weather up to managing the seasons" thing too can be confusing. But really, it would be rather important to know how do the other countries view Celestia?
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Yeah, he's not as much fun now 31 as he was at 21.evilsoup wrote:The only problem being that unlike fictional characters, a real person doesn't have an off switch.
A fuse is a physical embodyment of zen, in order for it to succeed, it must fail.
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'France' might not be a seperate country, but rather a province of Equestria. For all we know there aren't any other countries and the whole known world is a part of Equestria, but not the entire planet - so Equestria has borders (and doesn't cover the entire world), but no neighbours; the regions outside Celestia's control are wildernesses like the Everfree forest.
But if there are other countries, why would Celestia care about ruling them? She's certainly not a megalomaniac; she barely seems to exercise any control over the ponies' day-today lives (with the exception of Twilight) - so I don't think she'd want to invade any neighbours they did have, unless they were being truly epic assholes.
But if there are other countries, why would Celestia care about ruling them? She's certainly not a megalomaniac; she barely seems to exercise any control over the ponies' day-today lives (with the exception of Twilight) - so I don't think she'd want to invade any neighbours they did have, unless they were being truly epic assholes.
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Yes, but at that rate, why rule Equastria at all?
My guess is that Equastria is a magically deeply-infused land, where magic somehow creates an unique ecology. Those connected to the Equastrian ecology have various effects: animals tend to be drawn to ponies (and Fluttershy herself is more deeply connected to the animals themselves), weather is worked by pegaus, seasons are changed by ponies or magic, etc.
While the Everfree Forest is like a conservation park, merely unmarked or a border area that has its own ecology (or maybe the closest equivalent of a "natural" ecology), hence why it is so different.
It would also explain why Fluttershy was unable to connect to any of the animals in the garden during the Gala: she specifically mentioned that they were all imported, hence not part of the Equastrian ecology.
The focus is this is Celestia (and perhaps Luna to a degree).
This makes sense if you consider Discord's actions. He is far more powerful than Celestia and is able to shape the land to his will.
So the entire territory of Equastria is a high-magic zone, stablised by Celestia for the benefit of ponykind. Her being a ruler is more of a symbolic thing than an actual title with government.
A possible source of this high-magic zone (or cause or merely a relation) is the fact that the Elements of Harmony, the most powerful magical artifacts yet, are in the area.
Meanwhile, other areas that are not so dense in magic do other things and manage otherwise.
But the whole "raising the sun" business is still a massive, looming question.
My guess is that Equastria is a magically deeply-infused land, where magic somehow creates an unique ecology. Those connected to the Equastrian ecology have various effects: animals tend to be drawn to ponies (and Fluttershy herself is more deeply connected to the animals themselves), weather is worked by pegaus, seasons are changed by ponies or magic, etc.
While the Everfree Forest is like a conservation park, merely unmarked or a border area that has its own ecology (or maybe the closest equivalent of a "natural" ecology), hence why it is so different.
It would also explain why Fluttershy was unable to connect to any of the animals in the garden during the Gala: she specifically mentioned that they were all imported, hence not part of the Equastrian ecology.
The focus is this is Celestia (and perhaps Luna to a degree).
This makes sense if you consider Discord's actions. He is far more powerful than Celestia and is able to shape the land to his will.
So the entire territory of Equastria is a high-magic zone, stablised by Celestia for the benefit of ponykind. Her being a ruler is more of a symbolic thing than an actual title with government.
A possible source of this high-magic zone (or cause or merely a relation) is the fact that the Elements of Harmony, the most powerful magical artifacts yet, are in the area.
Meanwhile, other areas that are not so dense in magic do other things and manage otherwise.
But the whole "raising the sun" business is still a massive, looming question.
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I always saw Celestia as the Equestrian equivalent of the Pope. Even though there are countries besides Italy, the Pope is still seen as the spiritual leader of the world for his particular religion, but he resides in the Vatican City (Canterlot). She may be a bit like Queen Victoria during her reign as well - she was Queen of England, but was deemed ruler of several other nations as well (she was Empress of India for example). So there could be other countries besides Equestria with their own rulers, who are nevertheless still answerable to Celestia. She's the sovereign ruler of Equestria and the spiritual leader of the whole world, in a way.
Remember also that according to the first episode, when Luna rebelled she was actually able to prevent the sun from rising and the moon from going down, and she did it again when she returned at the end of the first episode (and it's also implied she did something to Celestia upon her return, as Celestia vanishes from Ponyville when Nightmare Moon shows up). It seems they really do control the sun and the moon. When Discord is free, he apparently subverts their control over them and causes the sun and moon to rise and fall every other minute.
Remember also that according to the first episode, when Luna rebelled she was actually able to prevent the sun from rising and the moon from going down, and she did it again when she returned at the end of the first episode (and it's also implied she did something to Celestia upon her return, as Celestia vanishes from Ponyville when Nightmare Moon shows up). It seems they really do control the sun and the moon. When Discord is free, he apparently subverts their control over them and causes the sun and moon to rise and fall every other minute.
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OK... So new ep of MLP Isn't even over yet.. And Already we have seen...
Electricity, Construction equipment (cranes, bulldozers, rivit guns) and a Hydro Electric Dam.
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Electricity, Construction equipment (cranes, bulldozers, rivit guns) and a Hydro Electric Dam.
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That would make sense, although we haven't saw any dignitaries or similar in the show. Then again, we almost never glimpsed into the royal court itself.She's the sovereign ruler of Equestria and the spiritual leader of the whole world, in a way.
Yes, but you can make the argument of time. How long did it take for the ponies to go from Ponyville Mayor-house (or whatever it is called) to getting the Elements of Harmony? The whole night? A few hours?Remember also that according to the first episode, when Luna rebelled she was actually able to prevent the sun from rising and the moon from going down, and she did it again when she returned at the end of the first episode (and it's also implied she did something to Celestia upon her return, as Celestia vanishes from Ponyville when Nightmare Moon shows up).
It could be be an Equastria-only illusion to further mess with the ponies.When Discord is free, he apparently subverts their control over them and causes the sun and moon to rise and fall every other minute.
I am not in favour of this conspiracy-theory of fake gods, mind you, merely that it is a theory that I find feasible.
Then again, other questions are raised: does the world even exist like our solar system? If it does, what was it like before Celestia?
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RAINBOW DASH FANCLUB!!
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Equastria really needs better road, vehicle and building codes. Or at least Ponyville does.
Oh, and Granny Smith is in it. I find her pretty amusing.
Also, did any of you guys know that Scootalo and Rainbow Dash were supposed to be sisters?
Oh, and Granny Smith is in it.
I find her pretty amusing. Also, did any of you guys know that Scootalo and Rainbow Dash were supposed to be sisters?
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I was under the impression that Scootalo was the sister to cheelie( the school teacher) and just worships Rainbow Dash, as all sain people must.Zixinus wrote: Also, did any of you guys know that Scootalo and Rainbow Dash were supposed to be sisters?
Awsome they had maredowell as batman for the 1990's tv series posters, plus the ending music sounds alot like the opening sequence.
From this episode i think it would be safer to jog through a minefield, then use any technology made by ponies.Equastria really needs better road, vehicle and building codes. Or at least Ponyville does.
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"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
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That was just... really weird.
Turns out RD's friends have all turned into complete jerks.
Turns out RD's friends have all turned into complete jerks.
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The chocolate cake part at the end?Crazedwraith wrote:That was just... really weird.
Turns out RD's friends have all turned into complete jerks.
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
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No. The whole episode was just weird. The first third is just RD being 'heroic' and it doesn't feel like there's a real plot starting until after that. And the mane six's actions are just stupid. 'We think RD's being big headed. We could go and talk to her about it all friendly like, or we could dress up in costume and totally wreck her selfworth by showing her up at every opportunity.'lordofchange13 wrote:The chocolate cake part at the end?Crazedwraith wrote:That was just... really weird.
Turns out RD's friends have all turned into complete jerks.
Again, the show's ordering is weird. Two RD centric episodes one after another?