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Unapologetic journo slams 'scum' NOTW editors

In a stunning appearance before the inquiry into press standards in Britain, a former deputy editor at the now defunct News of the World has robustly defended the practice of hacking mobile phones for stories.

Paul McMullan's extraordinary, unapologetic testimony to the Leveson inquiry was in sharp contrast to the apologies given elsewhere by News Corporation management, including chairman Rupert Murdoch, his son James, and former editor Rebekah Brooks.

The second week of the media ethics inquiry, prompted by the phone-hacking furore, heard the former tabloid journalist unapologetically lay bare the dirty tricks of his former paper.

He said the practice of phone hacking was not uncommon.

"It would just be written, you know, 'Pop star A is leaving messages on pop star B's phone at 2:00am in the morning, saying I love you, shall we meet up for a drink?'," he said.

"I mean it was that blatant and obvious. I don't think anyone realised that anyone was committing a crime at the start."

McMullan said journalists would trade celebrity details with each other.

"These journalists swapped numbers with each other. You know, you might swap... I think I swapped Sylvester Stallone's mother for David Beckham, I think, for example," he said.

And at times he visibly revelled in the work he used to do.

"I absolutely loved giving chase to celebrities, I must admit," he said.

"Before [Princess] Diana died it was such good fun."

He said he was proud that his article on paedophiles led to civil disorder in Portsmouth and reports that a misguided mob had attacked a paediatrician.

"In a bizarre way I felt slightly proud that I'd written something that had created a riot and got a paediatrician beaten up, or whatever was the case, due to the paedo aspect of what our readers latched on to," he said.


McMullan said no-one deserved privacy, calling it merely the space bad people need to do bad things in.

"Privacy is particularly good for paedophiles, and if you keep that in mind, privacy is for paedos, fundamentally, nobody else needs it.

"Privacy is evil, it brings out the worst qualities in people, it brings out hypocrisy, it allows them to do bad things."

He has also defended the hacking of the phone of the murdered teenager Milly Dowler - the case that brought the practice to Britain's attention - saying it was not a bad thing because the investigating police were useless.

McMullan, who now owns a pub, said his only regrets were over a series of articles he wrote about an actor Denholm Elliott's daughter, who later hanged herself.

Everyone else however was fair game, and he said it was a practice encouraged by the News of the World's editors.

"Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson - they're the scum of journalism for trying to drop me and all my colleagues in it," he said.

"How dare these people just throw us to the wolves and run off scot-free as they did for about a year."


Brooks and Coulson both deny knowing about hacking at the tabloid.

'Culture of bullying'

Earlier at the inquiry, The Guardian journalist who broke the hacking story, Nick Davies, said he no longer trusted the press to regulate itself.

"I say this as I love reporting. I want us to be free. You've got a huge intellectual puzzle here in front of you. How do you regulate a free press? But it obviously doesn't work. We're kidding ourselves if we think it would," he said.

Davies said he wanted to see a "public interest advisory body" established so that journalists and the wider public could seek advice on whether stories were in the public interest, as the interpretation was very wide.

He gave an example of The Guardian's handling of the US diplomatic cables on Afghanistan obtained by the WikiLeaks website.

"It became apparent that the material contained information which could get people on the ground in Afghanistan seriously hurt," he said.

"They are implicitly identified as sources of information for the coalition forces."

But Davies alleged that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told him: "They deserve to die, they are informers, they are collaborators."

Davies added: "I would love to have been able to go to a specific advisory body and say, 'Where is the public interest here?' in order to be able to show it to him, to persuade him."

Davies also spoke of a "culture of bullying in some Fleet Street news organisations."

The "fear is real" among employees of tabloids when they speak to him about practices used at their newspapers, which is why they have spoken on condition of anonymity, he said.

British prime minister David Cameron launched the media inquiry amid the furore of phone-hacking at the now shuttered News of the World.

The inquiry has heard from the parents of murdered children as well as celebrities including Hugh Grant, Sienna Miller and Charlotte Church.

Church told the inquiry yesterday she was offered press favours from the Murdoch-owned press in return for performing at Rupert Murdoch's wedding to Wendi Deng.

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What is amazing is that he gets all wound up about his reporter mates getting dumped in the shit (by Brooks and Coulson) while casually ruining other peoples lives (and defending it). What an epic piece of shit.
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"Privacy is evil, it brings out the worst qualities in people, it brings out hypocrisy, it allows them to do bad things.
How true. It allowed him to write this shit and ruin people's lives without any oversight. The only good thing from his rant is that it embarrasses the Murdoch media machine.
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Guy Rundle comes in off the long run at Crikey:
He held his own through that but in the Jennifer Elliott matter, he lost the plot entirely. Yes he had got her details from corrupt police. Yes, he had found her begging for heroin money and offered her money for s-x — an offer she had never made herself. Yes, he had gone back to her flat and photographed her topless. Yes, he had written several stories saying that she was working as a prostitute on the basis of the encounter. Yes, she was confused enough to say he was her boyfriend on TV. “I was driven primarily to write the best story I could.” Yes, after she hung herself, he realised that “I went too far”.

Finally there was a claim he made for his own forgiveness — that he had restarted the process of the investigation by putting the Murdochs themselves, and corrupt police under investigation, work that fed into Nick Davies’ reports for The Guardian. That produced the most amazing exhange of the lot, where McMullan reflected on the Dowlers’ experience, and defended the hacking of their daughter’s phone, noting that “international people” had said how lucky the Dowlers were to have conscientious journalists on the case instead of corrupt police.

They would have been if the News of the World had put any money into investigating the crime. They didn’t, they simply harvested death-p-rn from phone messages but for McMullan “our intentions were good, our intentions were honourable. Last summer my boy went missing only for twenty minutes, but for those twenty minutes I knew how Mrs Dowler felt.”

Yes he really said that. He was invaluable, the soul of the News International attitude, the same toxic mix of nihilism, self-righteousness and victim hood the organisation expresses the world over. It was stomach-turning testimony, but it was the best insight yet into what went so badly wrong at the heart of that culture.
What's extraordinary is that McMullan literally can't distinguish between stories that are in the public interest and tabloid muckracking of the lowest order; they are all the same, and are all justified. It's just unbelievable.
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I wonder how possible it is to work for an organization like these papers and not get swallowed by this culture. You can be certain this kind of rationalizing takes place on a day basis in their office environment, which doubtless colours their thinking.

If only people didn't read this shit, I guess.
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Yeah that was one of the themes that came out of all the coverage of The Australian recently - how infectious the culture was, so that everyone who worked there became mini-Chris Mitchell (ie thin skinned and vindictive) within months. Not that it even has the excuse of selling....because it doesn't. But Rupert's not going to let one of his babies die.
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Stark wrote:If only people didn't read this shit, I guess.
And there's lynchpin.

It is obviously acceptable to the public because they will continue to pay for the privilege to read it. So, in a sense, the guy is right.
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thejester wrote:Yeah that was one of the themes that came out of all the coverage of The Australian recently - how infectious the culture was, so that everyone who worked there became mini-Chris Mitchell (ie thin skinned and vindictive) within months. Not that it even has the excuse of selling....because it doesn't. But Rupert's not going to let one of his babies die.
The Australian tipped over into right-wing derangement a while ago. Over the last decade, it has rarely even made a profit. It's readership is also contracting steadily. For some reason Rupert Murdoch is happy to let this state of affairs continue. I wonder what the shareholders of NewsCorp think about the continual losses the Murdoch papers rack up in Australia.
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That's actually interesting to me; when I was in highschool (ie, the 90s) the Australian was very well-respected. Nowadays its literally a laughingstock, providing fodder for hilarious email quotations and picture jokes.
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bobalot wrote:I wonder what the shareholders of NewsCorp think about the continual losses the Murdoch papers rack up in Australia.
It depends on who the major shareholders are. If Rupert and his like-minded friends have a majority of the stock in their control, Rupert can do whatever the fuck he wants and the shareholders won't be able to do dick about it.
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It still is 'respected', in it's own way. Go read the last Quarterly Essay - Bad News by Robert Manne. In some ways Manne misses the wood for the trees pretty spectacularly: rather than address the enormous marketshare News Corp has and the effect that has on public discourse, politics etc, he goes on a fact-checking mission to prove the Aus editorial line is one of free-market liberalism...something they readily, proudly proclaim. But in other ways he does a good job of revealing how the culture at the Aus is basically one of bullying and vindictiveness, with a total lack of introspection or understanding what's good for the goose is good for the gander. That said, even Manne acknowledges that because the Aus is Rupert's baby and piggybacks off News Corp profitability, it can - unlike Fairfax or even the ABC - afford to keep high levels of staff and consequently undertake the sort of investigative journalism that the economics of printmedia is destroying elsewhere in the country. David Marr is another who describes his frustration with the Aus: you pick it up and on one side of the page there's a great column by Noel Pearson and on the other an interview with a lifeguard in his 60s who reckons the sea level at Bondi is the same as it has always been, (ergo global warming is nonsense).

As long as Chris Mitchell - the ultimate Murdoch man - remains editor, Rupert will back it, cause it's tremendously influential in setting the media agenda in Canberra and for the other News Corp papers.
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This is probably one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard a news reporter say.
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Stark wrote:I wonder how possible it is to work for an organization like these papers and not get swallowed by this culture. You can be certain this kind of rationalizing takes place on a day basis in their office environment, which doubtless colours their thinking.
I think this is a good point. The one positive thing you can say about McMullan is that he is being completely honest. I have absolutely no doubt that there are many other journalists at various newspapers who entirely agree with what he has said whilst tutting furiously in public. It was (and maybe still is) a practice that was clearly not just confined to one newspaper and it's the biggest joke of this whole affair that every other newspaper is acting like they had no idea that this was even going on, let alone participating in the same activity.

None of which, of course, makes his point of view any less disturbing.
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This is going to do wonders at any attempts to defend freedom of press from government intrusions in the future. I am in for strict regulation, though. Also, anyone want a UK version of the Fairness Doctrine? Or is there already one?
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I am in for strict regulation
Oh for the love of god. YOU DO NOT WANT STRICT REGULATION OF THE PRESS. Competent and ethical journalists and possibly a sensibly constructed and run industry body that respected journalists are members of that require them to meet standards? Those things are great and most nations are sorely lacking in both, but the government regulating the press is so hideously open to corruption and abuse it is not even funny. You shriek about how the government is evil and OWS is doomed in the OWS thread, and then want to give the government the power to crush similar movements without the public ever knowing they existed in this one. The hell, man?
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It's just because SpessMarin has latched onto the idea that deregulation=bad, but is too stupid to actually think it out so he just applies it as a blanket statement.

Far better to allow the press to lie and do scummy things than to allow the government decide what constitutes lying.
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Sorry, that came out wrong. What I mean is that I support whatever the government is planning to push forward to reduce this kind of NOTW style unethical journalism.
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Do you speak solely in soundbites? This sort of thing should obviously be illegal (and probably is), regardless of whether its newspapers doing it or not.
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It's easy to go off on this guy for being a disgrace to the profession, and he is... But I can also sort of understand where he's coming from. When he says that he's "slightly proud" that he's created a riot and gotten someone beaten up that's completely fucked up, but understandable in the sense that it really is a rush to find out you're having an effect on the world, that you can influence what people discuss and think about and do, just by reporting on a given subject in a certain fashion. It can be very intoxicating, and I don't find it difficult at all to imagine that working in an environment where the sort of unethical behaviour the NOTW editors engaged in is tolerated and/or encouraged it's easy to, as Stark put it, get swallowed by that culture. Everyone likes to think they'd do the right thing in circumstances like these but given the pressures to perform, the 'thrill of the hunt', the ease with which British journalists apparently got away with it for years and the absence or perversion of editorial mechanisms that should work to prevent excesses like these... Yeah, it's absolutely no excuse but I can definitely see how these guys ended up doing what they did.
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Siege wrote:It's easy to go off on this guy for being a disgrace to the profession, and he is... But I can also sort of understand where he's coming from. When he says that he's "slightly proud" that he's created a riot and gotten someone beaten up that's completely fucked up, but understandable in the sense that it really is a rush to find out you're having an effect on the world, that you can influence what people discuss and think about and do, just by reporting on a given subject in a certain fashion. It can be very intoxicating, and I don't find it difficult at all to imagine that working in an environment where the sort of unethical behaviour the NOTW editors engaged in is tolerated and/or encouraged it's easy to, as Stark put it, get swallowed by that culture. Everyone likes to think they'd do the right thing in circumstances like these but given the pressures to perform, the 'thrill of the hunt', the ease with which British journalists apparently got away with it for years and the absence or perversion of editorial mechanisms that should work to prevent excesses like these... Yeah, it's absolutely no excuse but I can definitely see how these guys ended up doing what they did.
This guy is a massive narcissist. He actually compared losing his kid for 20 minutes to what NOTW reporters did to Milly Dowler's mum.
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I'm not convinced that makes him a narcissist, at least not any more than all the other people who spin tedious self-justifications when caught in acts of despicability. People are herd animals and easily corrupted by toxic institutional mindsets, and will make excuses to avoid accountability for their actions. Journalists are no exception.
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Siege wrote:It's easy to go off on this guy for being a disgrace to the profession, and he is... But I can also sort of understand where he's coming from. When he says that he's "slightly proud" that he's created a riot and gotten someone beaten up that's completely fucked up, but understandable in the sense that it really is a rush to find out you're having an effect on the world, that you can influence what people discuss and think about and do, just by reporting on a given subject in a certain fashion. It can be very intoxicating, and I don't find it difficult at all to imagine that working in an environment where the sort of unethical behaviour the NOTW editors engaged in is tolerated and/or encouraged it's easy to, as Stark put it, get swallowed by that culture. Everyone likes to think they'd do the right thing in circumstances like these but given the pressures to perform, the 'thrill of the hunt', the ease with which British journalists apparently got away with it for years and the absence or perversion of editorial mechanisms that should work to prevent excesses like these... Yeah, it's absolutely no excuse but I can definitely see how these guys ended up doing what they did.
He was bragging about having gotten an innocent man nearly killed.
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Did any of you actually read what Siege wrote (both posts) or did you skim over it quickly and think you had an easy target to attack?
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SpaceMarine93 wrote:Sorry, that came out wrong. What I mean is that I support whatever the government is planning to push forward to reduce this kind of NOTW style unethical journalism.
This makes me think of this.

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Siege wrote:I'm not convinced that makes him a narcissist, at least not any more than all the other people who spin tedious self-justifications when caught in acts of despicability. People are herd animals and easily corrupted by toxic institutional mindsets, and will make excuses to avoid accountability for their actions. Journalists are no exception.
I agree - as Stark said earlier in the thread, it must be difficult to work in such an environment and stay immune to the culture present. To have such an influence over people must be a great rush.
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Alkaloid wrote:
I am in for strict regulation
Oh for the love of god. YOU DO NOT WANT STRICT REGULATION OF THE PRESS. Competent and ethical journalists and possibly a sensibly constructed and run industry body that respected journalists are members of that require them to meet standards? Those things are great and most nations are sorely lacking in both, but the government regulating the press is so hideously open to corruption and abuse it is not even funny. You shriek about how the government is evil and OWS is doomed in the OWS thread, and then want to give the government the power to crush similar movements without the public ever knowing they existed in this one. The hell, man?
If the alternative is letting the hatfuckers who've been 'self regulating' (ie, doing absolutely nothing of the sort) carry on doing so? Yes, in fact I do. It's fairly simple; there are two options, self regulation and government regulation. The press in this country have demonstrated that they can't be trusted to regulate themselves, so somebody else has to do it for them. Yeah, self regulation would work fine if we had a body of competent and ethical journalists, but we don't; most of them are hacks who exist purely to generate as much profit for their masters as possible, not to meet the journalistic ideal.

The BBC proves fairly well that it's possible to have a government regulated (and even publicly funded) news source that isn't just a mouthpiece for Westminster; in point of fact, it's widely considered to be a better news source than entirely private Sky News, especially after the NotW scandal given that it's another organ of the Murdoch media apparatus. The government, in this case, has a much better track record on press regulation than the private news groups.
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The BBC proves fairly well that it's possible to have a government regulated (and even publicly funded) news source that isn't just a mouthpiece for Westminster;
The BBC is publicly funded, it's news services are not government regulated. The reason it is a better news service than Sky is that because it's publicly funded it doesn't have to worry about making a profit so it doesn't have to resort to sensationalist bullshit to sell. It's the same with the ABC here.
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