My Little Pony

[Rossum]

It wouldn't just make co-existing with other creatures hard; it would also make sharing space with other dragons difficult to say the least. From what we've seen, they're not very social creatures, with each adult dragon having their own territory. But what implications does that have for breeding? If the competition for resources is this steep, I don't see boy-dragons and girl-dragons getting along long enough to procreate. That would seem to indicate that the hoarding is either cyclical as you suggested, or eventually gets less compulsive as dragons age.

Interestingly, the dragon in "Dragonshy" left behind his treasure when he flew off. That always bugged me a bit. How did he even get it all to the mountain in the first place, or did he collect it all before going to sleep there?

Well, the dragons do have a long lifespan and their hoarding tendency seems to involve more storing food (gems) then eating them. I'd guess that young dragons tend to go through a "mine" phase to quickly grow larger and collect food to store. Then as they mature they get a bit less greedy (or at least get the urge to mate as well as greed) so that some form of reproduction can take place.

In Dragonshy, the dragon seemed flattered by Rarities complements at least until she offered to "watch his hoard" at which point he drove her out. I doubt he was attracted to Rarity but it seems the idea of going out to show off his scales was a tempting thought. Dragon mating probably consists of dragons trying to watch over their hoards until one gets horny enough to leave and search for mates, then they find another dragon, prove they don't want the hoard (or offer gifts), and then try to procreate. Or depending on how messed up their life cycles and psychology are a dragon might wait until their potential mate goes into a 100 year sleep.

Actually, the dragons reaction in Owl's Well that Ends Well makes more sense given what we know now. We saw a tiny baby Spike chewing on a bit of the dragons horde, the dragon saw a little dragon that had the potential to get greedy and suddenly turn into a huge monster. So... it might not be much of a problem for dragons to mate with eachother but it does make caring for baby dragons into a bit of a risk. Few animals exist that can threaten a dragon but dragons can be a threat to eachother... even the young baby ones have the potential to suddenly grow huge enough to be a problem for the adults. I'm pretty sure an adult dragon can beat a greed-boosted baby dragon but it would be close enough that it wouldn't seem worth having one around. Imagine is five year old humans could suddenly grow as big as an adult once they learn to steal stuff.


So, maybe the ponies of Equestria have a deal going with the dragons where they take dragon eggs to hatch them and raise the baby in an environment where they keep the babies from getting greedy. The ponies sure don't want greedy dragons rampaging all over and the dragons don't want to worry about their kids turning into huge thugs and stealing everything the next time the parent takes a nap. Celestias rule has lasted for about 1000 years, seems long enough for the dragons to see things improved with this system over how things would be in the wild (or whatever the heck it was like under Discord).

As for the dragon in Dragonshy, its possible that he just flew out to find a new lair and was planning to come back later to move his gems to the new place. Also, it could be that this particular dragon had been raised by ponies and thus made his lair near Equestria out of familiarity and subsequently left once he learned that his snoring was causing problems for its inhabitants.

[Zixinus]

We saw a tiny baby Spike chewing on a bit of the dragons horde, the dragon saw a little dragon that had the potential to get greedy and suddenly turn into a huge monster. So... it might not be much of a problem for dragons to mate with eachother but it does make caring for baby dragons into a bit of a risk.

I would like to point out that in Owl's Well that Ends Well, the dragon actually breathed fire on Spike (okay, on his spikes) and they were barely singed. The Wonderbolts did more damage to Spike's spikes that the dragon did.

It is possible that the dragon didn't want to outright kill Spike, merely hurt him a bit to discipline him and drive him off (he did give off, even if with a bit of a show, once Spike went far enough).

[lordofchange13]

[bilateralrope]

I can easily see Equestria being a neutral country. They don't want war, and Celestia is someone any sane military would be afraid of.

It makes you wonder how common it is for ponies to care for dragons and for said dragons to grow huge when greedy. I'd hate to be in Canterlot when some school-filly spoils her dragon with sweets which causes him to go on a supersized kleptomaniac spree in a city on the side of a cliff.

That would explain why so many ponies are afraid about what Celestia would do if they displease her, despite her being consistently kind and understanding. They all know what she did to the last dragon that attacked Equestria.

Which raises the question: Why did Celestia leave dragon handling out of Twilight's training ?
Since hatching a dragon is the entrance exam, it's bound to be part of the standard curriculum. Unless most ponies pass without hatching the egg.

[RogueIce]

But only if it's funny to do so, not when it would be helpful.

I mean, she teleported herself a few metres in Applebuck season but not in several emergency situations (like in Feeling Pinkie Keen).

She may have just been too panicked. Or it wouldn't have mattered if she did; we haven't seen her do very long range teleports thus far, and there were what, three of them? That may have been too much for her to accomplish without wearing herself out, and she wouldn't have gotten far enough away to let her rest.

There's also the fall she took. But it seems that when she teleports she maintains momentum (Spike was still running every time he zapped in) so it wouldn't do her too much good unless she knew a soft place to fall to. Which I guess she didn't, but lucked out anyway. I put a disclaimer on this part though, because I don't remember the episode enough to really recall how she got out of that fall.

True, it's just that I'm a bit peeved that Twilight brought Spike to two doctors already and they were useless. Bring her to strange zebra from far away, a zebra that has miracle-cures to diseases that ponies don't know (Cutie Pox), she knows instantly!

To be fair, she didn't know a cure to the Cutie Pox per se inasmuch as she knew that Apple Bloom used one of the materials for her potion, and that she had a cure for. So it wasn't true Cutie Pox she was curing.

Maybe in the Palace, guarding the princess? That is what they seem to be meant to do.

Well, they did go out looking for Celestia's pet phoenix, so clearly they'll do more than just guard the Princess. And tried to attack Nightmare Moon at the Mayor's order, though she did appear where the Princess was supposed to be so there's that. But to address the Secret Service comment above, while it's hard to think of a direct comparison when they'd actually be doing the Guarding The President gig (with all the cops and other security around, somebody committing another crime is incredibly unlikely) though. So who knows?

For Sonic Rainboom:
Celestia didn't seem to do anything either, though I guess she might have used her magic but foresaw that Rainbow Dash would be able to save Rarity. Or maybe it was her magic that let Rarity survive Rainbow's turn? I guess Pegasi could already survive such Gs, dunno about unicorns. But as shown repeatedly, Twilight is rather durable so maybe Celestia didn't need to do anything - or would have at the last second (like a bunch of butterflies catching Rarity and the 'Bolts if RD didn't).

For this episode:
I would grant that it didn't take very long after the Wonderbolts got tanked (heh heh) for Rarity to resolve the issue. So maybe the Pegasi Guards would have acted as an escalation, but there wasn't time for them to be called out before it was over.

Makes me wonder now if the Unicorn Guards we see so rarely are a step above the Pegasi, and just what they'd be able to do in a crisis. Assuming, of course, Celestia doesn't just take care of things herself.

Again, we saw a general alarm system, meaning that there is some sort of systematic response to various treats. One of them is a Dragon and the Wonderbolts have to do SOMETHING useful. Maybe they are famous because they ARE originally meant as a fast-responce unit to external threats, and their "races" and "air-shows" are mere practise and training for them?

That's possible. Maybe they've just been doing the races and air-shows for so long, they're rusty at their primary purpose? Equestria (on the whole) is pretty peaceful.

I think it depends on your assumptions on how they work. For one, do they work by themselves (amplifying the power of their corresponding element) or only in combination?

Well, we've seen them only work in concert rather than solo. I'm guessing, being the Elements of Harmony they're meant to work together, rather than in singular.

Why? At worst, Spike would be banished to the Everfree Forest or some other isolated spot, away from ponies.
Again, Luna was a special case. Remember that it was specifically mentioned that Celestia tried to reason with Nightmare Moon and she refused. Spike may not be no where as powerful as Nightmare Moon, thus something as radical as sending him to the moon may not be necessary.

I'm pretty sure Spike being banished at all would count as "worst" for Twilight. Okay, maybe not in some magical prison for 1000 years, but he'd still be banished. Pretty sure Twilight would be pretty sad over that, to say the least.

Yeah, there are some plotholes as to why she does some things and why she ignores some other things, but we never actually saw her being downright mean (the best example as of yet is a minor gag when they kept refilling her tea).

Well, we do know that she heads off to other cities to handle their problems (the pest infestation in Fillydelphia at the end of "Swarm of the Century") so it's possible she wasn't around for some of it.

We also don't know how she'd even become aware of something going wrong. In SotC, she seemed to have absolutely no idea about the parasprites in Ponyville when she showed up, yet in "Lesson Zero" she somehow knew about Twilight's spell and the chaos it had caused in Ponyville. Perhaps for that one she was just surprised that the normally punctual Twilight hadn't sent a letter and decided to take a look? So she didn't so much "sense" Twilight's spell as she did take a peak at what her prized pupil was doing and then saw what was going on.

I suppose sometimes she does check up on Twilight (why else would she have dropped in randomly at the end of "Feeling Pinkie Keen"?) but not always. Can she really 'sense' when there's an issue or does she have to be told/observe it for herself? Since we don't know how that works, it makes it more difficult to judge why she would or would not intervene during any trouble, because we don't know if she even knew about said trouble until she gets the Cliff Notes version in a Friendship Report.

[Zixinus]

My guess that there is a magical Emergency Communication Network in place, maybe that the Mayor or her aide has access to?
I can best imagine them as buttons with labels like "UNDER ATTACK" or "MAGIC RUN AMOK!" or similar.

It would fit into the idea of an emergency response system. That would make the Parasprites curious exception (and maybe even Apple Bloom's cutie pox).

Someone could have noticed something very wrong with how a large mass of ponies are crazy about a doll, (probably the Mayor's aide), so pressed the corresponding button. Celestia, being the most powerful magician, probably had a look before she did anything to figure out what's happening.

The case of a dragon is obvious. The Mayor or someone else pressed the "UNDER ATTACK!" button and the Wonderbolts zoomed in to provide initial relief. The response could have escalated as things went worse.

Which brings us to the Parasprites problem. Celestia might have not known about it because all the ponies were at first charmed by the parasprites. When they started eating en-masse, the Princess was already on her way (thus out of the loop and ignorant of what happened to Ponnyville until perhaps afterwards).

To be fair, she didn't know a cure to the Cutie Pox per se inasmuch as she knew that Apple Bloom used one of the materials for her potion, and that she had a cure for. So it wasn't true Cutie Pox she was curing.

Sorry, but that's bullshit. It was noted that they don't know how the Cutie Pox started and why it gone away (which would make sense if it was poisoning of some sort, maybe Heart's Desire got into the grain supplies or something). The diagnosis fitted perfectly and there is no reason to believe that what Apple Bloom suffered from was Cutie Pox.

It would make some sense that she knew how to counteract or fix whatever was caused by one of her ingredients, yes. What bothers me is that this seems to be developing into a consistent theme, of Zekora being some ultra-wise woman that lives in harmony with nature and can cure things with her herbal whatevers that "modern medicine" (or the pony equivalent) can't cure.

I know I'm probably looking too much into this (and over-think it, but that's granted due to the subject matter) but I can't help smell a whiff of soap underfoot.

[lordofchange13]

The case of a dragon is obvious. The Mayor or someone else pressed the "UNDER ATTACK!" button and the Wonderbolts zoomed in to provide initial relief. The response could have escalated as things went worse.

But as many have all ready said Equestria is a fairly stable and peaceful land, so why would they need an under attack button? From what i can remember of the first 2 episodes of the show all but Fluttershy have any more then a glancing of knowledge that monsters exist in the world, so it seems just a little unlikely that they would have a warning system for a threat that is very uncommon. Though i found the WonderBolt intervention really funny, what with there only 2 attacks that they can possibly use is cannoning into the enemy and cutting them with their wings. Back to the response system. I suppose after the Discord, Nightmare moon, Ursa Minor appearances they could have seen the need for a alarm but it still must be fairly new.

[Zixinus]

But as many have all ready said Equestria is a fairly stable and peaceful land, so why would they need an under attack button?

Good point, but it does make sense if you assume that the communication network is used for other things as well (it might be used for legal and government stuff too). Also, why would a fairly stable and peaceful land would need AIR ATTACK ALARMS? Plus, Ponyville is next to the Everfree Forest, so an alarm system would be prudent.

From what i can remember of the first 2 episodes of the show all but Fluttershy have any more then a glancing of knowledge that monsters exist in the world, so it seems just a little unlikely that they would have a warning system for a threat that is very uncommon.

I imagined the system with buttons because I find it amusing. There is no reason not to have a more elaborate system in place.

I suppose after the Discord,

With Discord, the alarm has already been set (Celestia notified the Mane 6 almost immediately) and it would have been useless: Discord can wrap reality around his thumb, more powerful than Celestia or Luna.

Nightmare moon

What were they supposed to do with Nightmare Moon? Aside the fact that technically she is their legitimate ruler and as powerful as Celestia herself (otherwise why would she need to use the Elements of Harmony), the ponies were terrified of her. That, and we didn't much of the response made by ponies other than the Mane 6.

Ursa Minor appearances

There, you got me. It is possible that a response was underway but got there too late (as Twilight already handled the problem).

[Rossum]

As for the alarm, I figured it was a new addition to the town, possibly set up after or around the Mare Do-Well episode (since they had hydroelectric dams and such). They probably had some other way of alerting the town to disaster before then ("Remember kids, if you see everypony in town running around in a blind panic then that means a disaster is occurring.").

I don't know if it was really an Air Attack Alarm per see but more like a general alarm to go off if something bad is happening. Somepony probably complained about all the monster attacks and disasters so the Mayor had the alarm set up. It could be wired up to that dam so if it breaks again then the town has time to evacuate before they get flooded. Spike stole it soon after it sounded so it might have been intended to give off that alarm before the Mayor announces whatever warning is needed.

Hmm... do you think that particular alarm sound was designed to be easier for flying pegasai to hear? Some alarms might be hard to hear in the air and the alarm is meant to be heard over long distances.

[PhilosopherOfSorts]

I don't know if it was really an Air Attack Alarm per see but more like a general alarm to go off if something bad is happening. Somepony probably complained about all the monster attacks and disasters so the Mayor had the alarm set up. It could be wired up to that dam so if it breaks again then the town has time to evacuate before they get flooded. Spike stole it soon after it sounded so it might have been intended to give off that alarm before the Mayor announces whatever warning is needed.

This. Just because Equestria is mostly stable and peaceful doesn't mean they don't have emergencies, things like fires or maybe the occasional earthquake. I'd make the argument that they'd be stupid not to have some kind of alarm system for these types of things.

[Revy]

But only if it's funny to do so, not when it would be helpful.

I mean, she teleported herself a few metres in Applebuck season but not in several emergency situations (like in Feeling Pinkie Keen).

She may have just been too panicked. Or it wouldn't have mattered if she did; we haven't seen her do very long range teleports thus far, and there were what, three of them? That may have been too much for her to accomplish without wearing herself out, and she wouldn't have gotten far enough away to let her rest.

There's also the fall she took. But it seems that when she teleports she maintains momentum (Spike was still running every time he zapped in) so it wouldn't do her too much good unless she knew a soft place to fall to. Which I guess she didn't, but lucked out anyway. I put a disclaimer on this part though, because I don't remember the episode enough to really recall how she got out of that fall.

I think the longest range teleport we see her do is in The Ticket Master, where she escapes a crowd of ponies and teleports herself and Spike from a backstreet of Ponyville to the library. This had adverse effects though, as Twilight looked dizzy and Spike was singed.

In Feeling Pinkie Keen there was a moment when she was trapped with the hydra and all the others had jumped to safety, but the pillars were demolished and she couldnt jump herself. She should have teleported then, but doing so would have ruined the episode (since the point was for her to trust Pinkie and take a leap of faith) - she survived because a bubble of swamp gas cushioned her fall and bounced her to safety.

In Return of Harmony she uses her teleporting in a useful fashion when Discord tries to force grab the Elements of Harmony. Twilight teleports to her friends so she can protect them and move them to a safe distance.

Well, we've seen them only work in concert rather than solo. I'm guessing, being the Elements of Harmony they're meant to work together, rather than in singular.

Keep in mind though that Celestia must have used them all by herself in order to banish Nightmare Moon.

I'm pretty sure Spike being banished at all would count as "worst" for Twilight. Okay, maybe not in some magical prison for 1000 years, but he'd still be banished. Pretty sure Twilight would be pretty sad over that, to say the least.

Agreed, but the Elements didn't banish Nightmare Moon the second time they were used on her. They didn't turn her to stone either - they reverted her to being Luna. If the Elements were used against Spike in this case isn't it possible they'd just return him to his normal state?

We also don't know how she'd even become aware of something going wrong. In SotC, she seemed to have absolutely no idea about the parasprites in Ponyville when she showed up, yet in "Lesson Zero" she somehow knew about Twilight's spell and the chaos it had caused in Ponyville.

Actually this was a plot point remember - in Lesson Zero she shows up because Spike wrote to her and warned her that Twilight was losing it. He even brags about it later.

[Bright]

Well, we've seen them only work in concert rather than solo. I'm guessing, being the Elements of Harmony they're meant to work together, rather than in singular.

Keep in mind though that Celestia must have used them all by herself in order to banish Nightmare Moon.

Presumably not all of them. She wasn't able to use the Elements' full power and purify Luna from Nightmare Moon, after all, probably because she didn't have the Element of Magic. She seemingly did it alone, without any friends. This seems to fit together quite well, and I can certainly see Celestia being a representation of Honesty, Loyalty, Kindness, Generosity and Laughter all on her own.

[Narkis]

But wait, if the world is round, how does the whole "rising the Sun and Moon" work? Does the planet really need the sisters to keep spinning it? Or is it all just an elaborate ploy that began long ago by two absurdly powerful immortal magic-users so that they'd bring all ponies under their everlasting control?

They live in a world where pegasi make the clouds in a factory and create rainbows out of spicy rainbow coloured liquid. Don't think too hard about it, it's magic. You might as well ask where the excess mass came from and went with regards to Spike's size shifting in the latest episode.

You have a point there. Though the mass shifting has an obvious answer: It's magic, silly!

Celestia is a troll.

Everypony keeps saying this, I still don't get it. Why? I mean without viewing everything through deeply cynical tinted glasses?

Yeah, troll may not be the right word. (In my defence, I heard it from the internet) Really, she's a beloved and benevolent ruler almost always being kind and generous etc, etc. So much so that I wonder why her ponies fear her so much. But she does have a tendency to enjoy the occasional prank to her subjects (and sister) a little more than she should.

Do the occasional pangs of "Oh god, what the fuck am I watching?" ever go away? I thought they'd be gone by now, but it's very much not the case.

They went away with me around about episode three or four. But then I freely admit to being a child at heart, so I love this kind of stuff. I'd happily walk around in public wearing a MLP t-shirt now. I even have the end credits music as my ringtone.]

You are far braver than I. I even usually skip the opening theme because the tune is instantly recognisable, and no one must know.

Do the occasional pangs of "Oh god, what the fuck am I watching?" ever go away? I thought they'd be gone by now, but it's very much not the case.

I stopped feeling weird in the middle of "Griffon the brushoff"

Alright, I'm a little behind the curve. Should be fixed before too long.

Does the planet really need the sisters to keep spinning it? Or is it all just an elaborate ploy that began long ago by two absurdly powerful immortal magic-users so that they'd bring all ponies under their everlasting control?

I often wonder that myself. My best guess is that they're not "real" suns but magical suns, as the planet on they are on is somehow either permanently eclipsed or entered a very distant orbit of their sun.

Or they (and I guess this is more likely) in a more Discworld-esque world where reality and physics doesn't work as we think they do.

Yeah, that's probably it. I didn't think it strange while there still was reasonable doubt about the flatness of Equestria, but every new thing revealed to work like in our world makes more obvious all those that don't.

And is cleaning up winter and autumn necessary, or just a pony tradition?

It may actually be necessary, as in Equastria at least, things work in ways that the ponies want them to work. Ponies make the weather (Dash mentions that it is not supposed to rain today in some episodes), it's logical they manage the seasons too.

How they get snow, I don't know.

They do need pegasi for the weather, so it'd make sense that everything is manual. And snow comes from the weather factory in Cloudsdale as everything else, there were hoof-made snowflakes that Rarity disturbed with her butterfly wings in the rainboom contest episode.

Celestia is a troll.

Maybe in your headcannon, but not in official canon. She is a kind, gentle pony that cares about the ponies under her.

Yeah, there are some plotholes as to why she does some things and why she ignores some other things, but we never actually saw her being downright mean (the best example as of yet is a minor gag when they kept refilling her tea).

Yeah, no arguments here. (see above) But because she is so kind and gentle and caring, the instance(s?) where she is, for lack of a better word, trolling, stand out. It's not impossible that I overanalyzed this minor gag to reinforce what I'd already read about her though.

Do the occasional pangs of "Oh god, what the fuck am I watching?" ever go away?

I don't know, I never had any. I started watching when I heard how many adults liked the show too, I was curious and started watching.
I re-watched my childhood favourite too, Swat Kats, as an adult. Gargoyles recently as well.

But it's different. This is My Little Pony! My little sister loved it half a decade ago, and now she says she's too old for this stuff! To like it breaks down both the age and gender barrier. One of them at a time I can handle, but both barriers at once? This is madness.

[Narkis]

Sorry for the double post, but I discovered Cupcakes.

Oh, internet, how I love ya...

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[lordofchange13]

Agreed, but the Elements didn't banish Nightmare Moon the second time they were used on her. They didn't turn her to stone either - they reverted her to being Luna. If the Elements were used against Spike in this case isn't it possible they'd just return him to his normal state?

Well Nightmare Moon was suppose to be a sort of corruption of spirit, or possibly a external evil creature if the fandum is to be believed, it would make scene for the elements to turn her to normal. Discord is the personification of discord, so he is suppose to be evil and a chaos bringer,which is why i believe that the elements were ever able to turn him to stone. Spikes problem woth hording seems to be like Discord then Nightmare Moon; dragons , in order to grow up,have to be greedy. The Elements from what we have seen of there power to fix problems would not have been a good idea for this episode.

[lordofchange13]

Sorry for the double post, but I discovered Cupcakes.

Oh, internet, how I love ya...

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?????

Why you hating on cupcakes, that fanfic had the best recipes ever.

[Zixinus]

Actually, considering that Spike was able to snap out of it just by remembering things, I'd say that the Elements of Harmony could have easily "fixed" him. Even in ways that we didn't imagine (for example, allowing him to be a giant adult while not being greedy).

[lordofchange13]

Actually, considering that Spike was able to snap out of it just by remembering things, I'd say that the Elements of Harmony could have easily "fixed" him. Even in ways that we didn't imagine (for example, allowing him to be a giant adult while not being greedy).

The reason he was able to turn back to "normal" so easily is that he himself did not consciously want to be greedy. The Elements have only ever been shown curing things of unnatural problems. But maybe in further episodes the Elements will be shown to have more applications.

[Zixinus]

Considering that the Elements was able to cure reality-altering Discord and "fix" Luna (removing what might be called an aspect of her, Nightmare Moon), I'd say that "fixing" Spike doesn't seem to be too large a stretch.

But I guess using the Elements for problems like this would quickly end the episodes (plus it shows a healthy caution when using those things).

[Revy]

There's also the fact that they're locked in Canterlot Castle by a spell that only Celestia can break, so if they even took the time and effort to get the Elements then they'd be as well just having Celestia fix the problem.

[lordofchange13]

I'd say that "fixing" Spike doesn't seem to be too large a stretch.

What i am trying to say it that there isn't anything really wrong with spike so he can't be "fixed", so the Elements would have to lock away spike. Spike was just getting hit with Dragon puberty, be it a little fast, which is what is suppose to happen to him eventually. The Elements are of Harmony, and thus should be only able to fix things that are not working correctly(Luna's envy), for every thing else they can only incapacitate(Discord).

locked in Canterlot Castle by a spell that only Celestia can break

Yes Discord could steal them pretty easily. Does anyone know how long it takes to get to Canterlot from ponyville?

[Revy]

I'd say that "fixing" Spike doesn't seem to be too large a stretch.

What i am trying to say it that there isn't anything really wrong with spike so he can't be "fixed", so the Elements would have to lock away spike. Spike was just getting hit with Dragon puberty, be it a little fast, which is what is suppose to happen to him eventually. The Elements are of Harmony, and thus should be only able to fix things that are not working correctly(Luna's envy), for every thing else they can only incapacitate(Discord).

The Elements bring harmony and order to chaos. They either return things to their normal state, or if the normal state of something is chaos and evil, they vanquish it. Spike as a huge, stupid, selfish chaotic monster is not the norm, so I imagine the Elements would 'bring order' and restore his natural state of harmony by returning him to his normal self.

locked in Canterlot Castle by a spell that only Celestia can break

Yes Discord could steal them pretty easily.

Did you mean to say 'Yet' rather than 'Yes'? If so ... that's really not saying much. That's like complaining that the security of the Enterprise sucks because Q can easily take control of the ship. That a nigh omnipotent reality bending demi god can break into your safe does not mean your safe is rubbish. Only I know the password to my email, but if a telepath read my mind and used that info to hack my account, I wouldn't say my password wasn't good enough.

[Zixinus]

What i am trying to say it that there isn't anything really wrong with spike so he can't be "fixed", so the Elements would have to lock away spike.

Why? The fact that he's rampaging around is clearly something wrong with him. He clearly is losing control of himself and later resents his actions.

Spike was just getting hit with Dragon puberty, be it a little fast, which is what is suppose to happen to him eventually.

And are dragons supposed to suddenly de-age? Remember, nothing magical happened to Spike to snap him out of his kleptomaniac rampage. All that did it was simply REMEMBERED something.

Puberty is supposed to be permanent, not reversed physically if the subject remembers something. Either that wasn't a "real" growth sprout or there is something wrong with Spike's physiology (or more likely, the writers didn't think trough the implications of Spike's maturity).

. The Elements are of Harmony, and thus should be only able to fix things that are not working correctly(Luna's envy),

This is an assertion that is unproven by the show. So far, the only evidence of what the Elements don't do is work at all when the wielders themselves do not possess the element they represent.

The name implies much, but the Elements appear to be extremely strong. They are stronger than Celestia and she raises the sun every day.

[lordofchange13]

The Elements bring harmony and order to chaos. They either return things to their normal state, or if the normal state of something is chaos and evil, they vanquish it. Spike as a huge, stupid, selfish chaotic monster is not the norm, so I imagine the Elements would 'bring order' and restore his natural state of harmony by returning him to his normal self.

Spike was not a chaotic dragon he was following a very simple drive: Steal everything he can find. From what has been seen in the show the Elements have never vanquished anything.

Did you mean to say 'Yet' rather than 'Yes'? If so ... that's really not saying much. That's like complaining that the security of the Enterprise sucks because Q can easily take control of the ship. That a nigh omnipotent reality bending demi god can break into your safe does not mean your safe is rubbish. Only I know the password to my email, but if a telepath read my mind and used that info to hack my account, I wouldn't say my password wasn't good enough.

I did mean to say "yet", sorry about that. Celestia is her self a demigod, and she didn't put them in a safe she put them in a vault of magic shielded with magic and locked with magic. But that's not really the point, was just saying that the vault was and could be opened by more then just Celestia herself.

[Zixinus]

Here's a thought that I had before going to sleep:

Horseshoes. Where are they?

We see them used in Fall Weather Friends (IIRC the title) when AJ and RD play a game. But otherwise, they are mostly absent. To be a bit evil, I am even expecting them being shown either with joking the whole "women go crazy for shoes" gag or as a variation of the "going to the dentist" jokes (I imagine that for a pony, having horseshoed can be like that).

Yet, horseshoes are developed for horses because they a, run a lot on artificial surfaces that are much harder than natural surfaces thus wear out their hooves more and b, are put on horses and animals that are either ridden or used for other hard work (even packing them with load means having them carry more than their own weight). Would this apply to ponies?