SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2012
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SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2012
SOPA talks and vote is scheduled to be held on 24th of January. The following journalist website shows which congressmen supports it and which ones don't as of today:
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
The current situation is quite bleak, don't you think?
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
Why the hell do you keep posting new threads about SOPA and PIPA? There are plenty already, surely? Wouldn't it make much more sense to keep all this shit in one thread instead of putting it all over the place?
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
I am just trying to get the info out on who in the congress actually support or oppose the bill. In that way people will know who to write to.SilverWingedSeraph wrote:Why the hell do you keep posting new threads about SOPA and PIPA? There are plenty already, surely? Wouldn't it make much more sense to keep all this shit in one thread instead of putting it all over the place?
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Yes, but why not put all SOPA/PIPA related content in a single thread instead of spreading it out over multiple threads? Does that or does it not make sense? Especially since you've posted so many threads on the subject.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
I guess we'll have to decide how to merge all SOPA/PIPA threads. Considering there's only so many of them, I'll merge them all into one, except possibly for the Murdoch/Google thread... though it is related too.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
I took a look at the website you linked to in your top line. For SOPA, 32 for, 25 against, 376 "unknown," which probably translates as "our website is too lazy to do the research." Real discouraging.
PIPA, 48 for, 6 against, 46 "unknown," which again suggests that this website isn't paying attention since by now practically everyone in Congress will have declared for or against the bill. They probably just copy-pasted the list of co-sponsors of the bill in, tacked on another 15 or so of the other 60 senators, and decided to call it a night.
PIPA, 48 for, 6 against, 46 "unknown," which again suggests that this website isn't paying attention since by now practically everyone in Congress will have declared for or against the bill. They probably just copy-pasted the list of co-sponsors of the bill in, tacked on another 15 or so of the other 60 senators, and decided to call it a night.
Hint: the average SDNer who's paying any attention at all already knows about SOPA/PIPA, and has no trouble looking this shit up. You have no unique, special qualification that makes you our designated "keep an eye on this law" guy.SpaceMarine93 wrote:I am just trying to get the info out on who in the congress actually support or oppose the bill. In that way people will know who to write to.SilverWingedSeraph wrote:Why the hell do you keep posting new threads about SOPA and PIPA? There are plenty already, surely? Wouldn't it make much more sense to keep all this shit in one thread instead of putting it all over the place?
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
I am sorry.
I am never stepping into News and Politics section again.
I am never stepping into News and Politics section again.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
Dude you can step into the news and politics just don't knee jerk post threads. Use your head and think about it, ask yourself is this redundant and is this needed? If it seems to be original and not already addressed then go post it.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
I refuse to believe he's actually 17.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
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the powers that be are dropping this shit like a hot potato now. Fucking with the internet is apparently the last straw for many people in this country.
the powers that be are dropping this shit like a hot potato now. Fucking with the internet is apparently the last straw for many people in this country.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
Talk about missing the point. YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS AND ISN'T A LEGITIMATE USE OF THE INTERNET. Not without consent of the public."The PROTECT IP Act will not affect Wikipedia, will not affect reddit, and will not affect any website that has any legitimate use," he said.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
Score one for democracy and freedom of expression, I guess.Col. Crackpot wrote:link
the powers that be are dropping this shit like a hot potato now. Fucking with the internet is apparently the last straw for many people in this country.
Its good to see people won't swallow something like this, and that some legislators can still be persuaded to back down.
Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
What the politicians forget is that intent means nothing. If the law expressly allows for something, it will happen. Overly broad laws are notorious for being used against people that were never intended. Like the Patriot Act.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Talk about missing the point. YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS AND ISN'T A LEGITIMATE USE OF THE INTERNET. Not without consent of the public."The PROTECT IP Act will not affect Wikipedia, will not affect reddit, and will not affect any website that has any legitimate use," he said.
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One need only look at the EFF's DMCA Takedown Hall of Shame for examples of a law being abused.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA - support/opposition in Congress on 18/1/2
Only if the protest fails. An unreasonable attack on internet freedom, home to one of the largest and best informed populations, should fail by dint of netizen numbers and resources backed by intelligence and skill.SpaceMarine93 wrote:...
The current situation is quite bleak, don't you think?
Otherwise, attacks on freedom should always be expected anyway and people should always be ready to stand up for their rights and the rights of others. Its not like a Hollywood movie where the good guys win the 'final' battle and live happily ever after behind the invincibility shield of the credit roll. More like a Saturday morning cartoon where the hero foils the villain weekly.
Come to think of it, that Murdoch character is stock cartoonishly villainous and the perfect personification of the SOPA goons. When they try again, it may almost certainly be with an extensive PR makeover.
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locked, see sticky thread.
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