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By Lisa Collier Cool
Jan 26, 2012

When the kids are wailing, the boss wasn’t happy with your presentation, and the kitchen is anything but pristine, what mom hasn’t thrown up her hands and given in to demands for chicken nuggets? Like, three times a week?

Maybe Mom should tell the kids: Be careful what you wish for.

Read about celebrities who dealt with eating disorders.

This week 17-year-old British factory worker Stacey Irvine was rushed to the hospital when she collapsed, struggling to breathe. During the exam, doctors were stunned to learn that Ms. Irvine had never in her life eaten fruit or vegetables; instead she had eaten almost nothing but fast-food chicken nuggets since she was two years old.

Her mother, Evonne Irvine, told reporters she had gone to great lengths to try to feed her daughter more nutritious food, at one point even trying to starve the girl, but it hadn’t worked. Stacey responded that, once she started eating nuggets, she “loved them so much they were all I would eat.”

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What’s so bad about nuggets?

They would be bad enough if they were merely chunks of chicken that had been breaded and deep-fried in oil. One documentary describes McDonald's nuggets as chickens “stripped down to the bone, and then 'ground up’ into a chicken mash, then combined with a variety of stabilizers and preservatives, pressed into familiar shapes, breaded and deep fried, freeze dried, and then shipped to a McDonald’s near you.”

Aside from chicken and oil, those “stabilizers and preservatives” are said to include dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone also used in cosmetics. Another additive is tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a form of butane. According to one report, chicken is only about 50 percent of a McNugget; the remainder is a mixture of corn-derived ingredients, sugars and synthetic substances.

If a four-piece serving of Chicken McNuggets carried a nutrition label, at first glance it wouldn’t seem too scary: 190 calories, 12 grams of carbs and 12 grams of fat. But consider that more than half of those calories (56 percent) are from fat—and protein accounts for a mere four percent. Add a whopping 360 mg sodium, and its image as “the more nutritious fast-food snack” fades.

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What’s the worst that can happen?

Aside from collapsing and gasping for air, as Stacey Irvine did? Doctors also discovered that the veins in Ms. Irvine’s tongue were swollen and she was diagnosed with anemia. Further, such a high salt intake can increase a person’s blood pressure (which ultimately can put them at risk for a stroke or heart attack).

McNuggets are low in nutrients everyone needs, such as calcium, fiber, vitamins, antioxidants and healthy fats, so a steady diet of nuggets means missing out on the health benefits of those ingredients.

Find out which vitamins you really need.
So what’s a parent to do?

If your kids are hooked on nuggets, experts offer these suggestions for steering them towards healthier eating:

* Serve a variety of healthy foods at home to prevent “picky eater” habits from forming. Taking them grocery shopping, teaching them to find and choose foods, and involving them in meal planning tells them you want to prepare meals they will enjoy.
* Set realistic goals. If the child bristles at eating a side portion of veggies, make a game to get him to take one bite of the new-tasting food.
* Make your own chicken snacks at home, using healthy dipping sauces like marinara sauce, yogurt or mustard. If you must bread the nuggets, dip them in an egg, roll them in cornflake crumbs and bake, don’t fry.
* If you’re eating out, cut out half of the trans and saturated fat by ordering a grilled chicken sandwich instead of nuggets. Order for your child from the adult menu, or share your sandwich with her, so the nuggets issue doesn’t come up.
* Be consistent and firm, but encourage and praise the child every time she tries a new, healthier food. And be a good role model—don’t expect children to eat healthy when one or both parents snack on salty chips or fatty, processed foods.
* Keep healthy foods in the meal, even when you give in and allow your child to order nuggets. Serve it with a side salad, fruit, or a slice of whole-grain bread.
Bolding mine. What?

I'd like to say something else to start but, "No, duh." is the only thing that immediately comes to mind.

You know this girl makes Veruca Salt not look spoiled. How can parenting ever get to this kind of point?

The mother claims she's tried to get her to eat something else but I have to wonder. How hard did she really try? It doesn't sound like she put that much of an effort into it.
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Not even a multi-vitamin? Wow.
How can parenting ever get to this kind of point?
When the child is strong-willed enough, and the parent is apathetic enough, and they spend 10-12 hours at work a day and come home dead tired and just want the kid to shut up so they can sleep for the next day... Yeah, I can see it happening. It isn't good, but it does happen.

And if you're going to eat chicken nuggets, Wendy's beats McDonald's by a long shot.
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This reminds me of a woman I saw on an episode of Freaky Eaters:




For those who are at work or whatever, here's the basics: She was in her mid-30's and, before the show, hadn't eaten anything other than cheesy potatoes in 30 years. Much like the girl in the OP, I'm going to assume that bad parenting was involved.
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How on earth did these people not get avitaminosis diseases? They must have eaten something else too, or else they'd have all kinds of problems. Compare 15 years or 30 years to the mere months that would give British sailors scurvy in the Age of Sail.
Avitaminoses include

vitamin A deficiency causes xerophthalmia or night blindness
thiamine deficiency causes beriberi
niacin deficiency causes pellagra
vitamin B12 deficiency leads to megaloblastic anemia
vitamin C deficiency leads to scurvy
vitamin D deficiency causes rickets
vitamin K deficiency causes impaired coagulation
Wikipedia - scurvy wrote:Men in the prison study developed the first signs of scurvy about 4 weeks after starting the vitamin C free diet, whereas in the British study, six to eight months were required, possibly due to the pre-loading of this group with a 70 mg/day supplement for six weeks before the scorbutic diet was fed.
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Now, please allow me to flip the fuck out for a moment, regarding a common annoyance of mine that I usually suppress.
Aside from chicken and oil, those “stabilizers and preservatives” are said to include dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone also used in cosmetics. Another additive is tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a form of butane. According to one report, chicken is only about 50 percent of a McNugget; the remainder is a mixture of corn-derived ingredients, sugars and synthetic substances.
DIMETHYLPOLYSILOXANE! TERTIARY BUTYLHYDROQUINONE! SHOCK! HORROR!

Oh wait, it's just people being 'chemistry illiterate'. Maybe they really are horrible toxins that the evil corporations are pumping into our food supply? Let's look at Wikipedia:
PDMS is optically clear, and, in general, is considered to be inert, non-toxic and non-flammable.

TBHQ is a highly effective antioxidant.[1] In foods, it is used as a preservative for unsaturated vegetable oils and many edible animal fats.[2] It does not cause discoloration even in the presence of iron, and does not change flavor or odor of the material to which it is added. [...] Both the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have evaluated TBHQ and determined that it is safe to consume at the concentration allowed in foods.
'Inert & non-toxic', 'no change in colour, flavour, or odour', 'safe to consume in allowed concentrations'... that's exactly what THEY want you to think. Free your MIND.

The problem with cases of industrial irresponsibility and food contamination scandals is that people were fucking with the truth. I.e. claiming things were proven to be safe when they weren't. Going to the opposite extreme and claiming that things that are safe are unsafe is just fucking with the truth some more. Consider preservatives, stabilisers, machine-separated meat, and artificial flavours & colours. I'm sure malnourished Third Worlders would be happy to know that First Worlders are 'conscientiously' rejecting various means for reducing the cost of food, increasing its shelf-life & transport distance, extracting nutritional value from previously wasted parts, and making cheap food more palatable.
dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone also used in cosmetics.
Breaking news - I have discovered that dihydrogen monoxide is present in both nuclear weapons and municipal water supplies. Also, don't eat sugar - Hitler ate sugar, and look how he turned out.
Another additive is tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a form of butane.
No. It's not. This is like a video I saw which claimed, with over-acted false incredulity, that Coca Cola was made from 'rocks and battery acid'. Why? Because phosphoric acid is commonly made from phosphate minerals and sulfuric acid. The concept of a 'chemical compound' is absent from the minds of most people.

The CORPORATIONS have also conspired to insert, into the stomachs of all human beings, a mixture of chemical weapons, exploding metal, and battery acid.

(Chlorine + sodium -> table salt, table salt + sulfuric acid -> hydrochloric acid).

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Maybe only with help from Fred Flinstone.

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My issues with the story isn't the granola propaganda added but the fact she's lived on McNuggets for 17 years. It makes my brain hurt.
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Ghetto Edit: I didn't realize there was a third part, since the other two added up to 20-odd minutes.

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Not the first time we've heard of something like this (Apologies for redtop rag, it was the first link I found).

Turns out some people are so determined to not try new foods that they will literally kill themselves through lack of effective nutrition.
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Winston Blake wrote:How on earth did these people not get avitaminosis diseases? They must have eaten something else too, or else they'd have all kinds of problems. Compare 15 years or 30 years to the mere months that would give British sailors scurvy in the Age of Sail.
Drinks and maybe cereals. (Especially kids cereals, which are usually fortified with vitamins as well as being sugary).
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Vendetta wrote:Not the first time we've heard of something like this (Apologies for redtop rag, it was the first link I found).

Turns out some people are so determined to not try new foods that they will literally kill themselves through lack of effective nutrition.
Darwin Award winner right there. The only mystery is why he didn't die sooner.
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Eulogy wrote:
Vendetta wrote:Not the first time we've heard of something like this (Apologies for redtop rag, it was the first link I found).

Turns out some people are so determined to not try new foods that they will literally kill themselves through lack of effective nutrition.
Darwin Award winner right there. The only mystery is why he didn't die sooner.
I find it hard to believe someone would do this to themselves voluntarily. There must be some kind of genetic or psychological problem here. Most people grow to hate the taste of a particular food if eaten all the time. E.g. I recall that after POWs imprisoned by the Japanese were rescued/repatriated, they were given rice and fish, due to a fear that a sudden change in diet might kill them - they retched and didn't want to eat it, despite being starving. Presumably, in humanity's evolutionary past, this would have helped prevent avitaminosis - there's a pretty strong evolutionary pressure against 'eating the same thing so much you get sick'. The fact that this effect doesn't occur in these people, or rather, is neatly 'reversed', may indicate that there's some kind of deeper mechanism here.

Further, there's a strong selection bias at work - people only make the news if they become obsessive about unhealthy foods. People who obsessively eat certain meats, vegetables, or fruits, and find fatty or sugary foods 'genuinely disgusting', could have the same 'pickiness' but don't experience it as an actual disorder, and so we don't hear about them. In fact, if this is a real effect, it would explain some evangelistic vegetarians/vegans and 'health nuts' I have encountered.
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This article has a picture of her in case anyone was interested to know.
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Winston Blake wrote:How on earth did these people not get avitaminosis diseases? They must have eaten something else too, or else they'd have all kinds of problems. Compare 15 years or 30 years to the mere months that would give British sailors scurvy in the Age of Sail.
Avitaminoses include

vitamin A deficiency causes xerophthalmia or night blindness
thiamine deficiency causes beriberi
niacin deficiency causes pellagra
vitamin B12 deficiency leads to megaloblastic anemia
vitamin C deficiency leads to scurvy
vitamin D deficiency causes rickets
vitamin K deficiency causes impaired coagulation
Wikipedia - scurvy wrote:Men in the prison study developed the first signs of scurvy about 4 weeks after starting the vitamin C free diet, whereas in the British study, six to eight months were required, possibly due to the pre-loading of this group with a 70 mg/day supplement for six weeks before the scorbutic diet was fed.
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Now, please allow me to flip the fuck out for a moment, regarding a common annoyance of mine that I usually suppress.
Aside from chicken and oil, those “stabilizers and preservatives” are said to include dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone also used in cosmetics. Another additive is tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a form of butane. According to one report, chicken is only about 50 percent of a McNugget; the remainder is a mixture of corn-derived ingredients, sugars and synthetic substances.
DIMETHYLPOLYSILOXANE! TERTIARY BUTYLHYDROQUINONE! SHOCK! HORROR!

Oh wait, it's just people being 'chemistry illiterate'. Maybe they really are horrible toxins that the evil corporations are pumping into our food supply? Let's look at Wikipedia:
PDMS is optically clear, and, in general, is considered to be inert, non-toxic and non-flammable.

TBHQ is a highly effective antioxidant.[1] In foods, it is used as a preservative for unsaturated vegetable oils and many edible animal fats.[2] It does not cause discoloration even in the presence of iron, and does not change flavor or odor of the material to which it is added. [...] Both the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) and the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have evaluated TBHQ and determined that it is safe to consume at the concentration allowed in foods.
'Inert & non-toxic', 'no change in colour, flavour, or odour', 'safe to consume in allowed concentrations'... that's exactly what THEY want you to think. Free your MIND.

The problem with cases of industrial irresponsibility and food contamination scandals is that people were fucking with the truth. I.e. claiming things were proven to be safe when they weren't. Going to the opposite extreme and claiming that things that are safe are unsafe is just fucking with the truth some more. Consider preservatives, stabilisers, machine-separated meat, and artificial flavours & colours. I'm sure malnourished Third Worlders would be happy to know that First Worlders are 'conscientiously' rejecting various means for reducing the cost of food, increasing its shelf-life & transport distance, extracting nutritional value from previously wasted parts, and making cheap food more palatable.
dimethylpolysiloxane, a form of silicone also used in cosmetics.
Breaking news - I have discovered that dihydrogen monoxide is present in both nuclear weapons and municipal water supplies. Also, don't eat sugar - Hitler ate sugar, and look how he turned out.
Another additive is tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a form of butane.
No. It's not. This is like a video I saw which claimed, with over-acted false incredulity, that Coca Cola was made from 'rocks and battery acid'. Why? Because phosphoric acid is commonly made from phosphate minerals and sulfuric acid. The concept of a 'chemical compound' is absent from the minds of most people.

The CORPORATIONS have also conspired to insert, into the stomachs of all human beings, a mixture of chemical weapons, exploding metal, and battery acid.

(Chlorine + sodium -> table salt, table salt + sulfuric acid -> hydrochloric acid).

[End of rant]
Have you heard of the "cocktail effect"? I.e that the combined effect of many different additives, each consumed in safe amounts, will have some kind of synergistic effect on human health?
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Darth Fanboy wrote:This article has a picture of her in case anyone was interested to know.
She doesn't look nearly as bad as I would have thought, though I'm curious as to how her nutrition affected her mental development.
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Well she might only eat nuggets (mostly McDonalds but also some other brands) but she might be keeping her calorie intake reasonable. Its the nutrition that's the big problem as others have said but maybe because she looks reasonably well she doesn't think she has a problem? I admit I expected to see someone much larger upon first reading this.
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Darth Fanboy wrote:Well she might only eat nuggets (mostly McDonalds but also some other brands) but she might be keeping her calorie intake reasonable. Its the nutrition that's the big problem as others have said but maybe because she looks reasonably well she doesn't think she has a problem? I admit I expected to see someone much larger upon first reading this.

That is my first thought. I mean, she probably drank things with necessary vitamins. Juices, particularly boxed juices with little straws are often vitamin fortified. The body can also synthesize a lot of them on its own, such as vitamin D, If she gets enough sun, it would not be a problem. Calcium if she drank plenty of milk. But iron... Iron is something usually not included in such vitamin fortifications. The small amount of chicken probably has some, which would hold off the ravages of deficiency for a while, but eventually... Anemia.
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cosmicalstorm wrote:Have you heard of the "cocktail effect"? I.e that the combined effect of many different additives, each consumed in safe amounts, will have some kind of synergistic effect on human health?
No, I had not heard of that term. The basic idea is trivial though - I assume that reactive or conflicting combinations of chemicals are considered by food safety authorities. If this was an important problem then I don't see why artificial additives should get special treatment. All combinations of 'natural' foods/herbs/spices, natural-derived additives, traditional medicines, natural 'fad' foods (like 'acai berries'), and the vast unregulated 'natural supplement' market ought to also be considered for 'cocktail effects'. At some point the value to human health gained by exhaustively searching for such effects becomes less than that gained by simply promoting a balanced diet, regular exercise, adequate sleep, and the avoidance of smoking, alcohol, and drugs.
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She's looking(superficially) okay now because she's still developing. If she doesn't change her diet in the next five years, BAM! Shit will get real.

Even if she doesn't become a blimp(and probably won't), she'll be in line for a raft other health problem, and bowel cancer has to be a massive risk when you're eating nothing but reclaimed meat.
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No, I had not heard of that term. The basic idea is trivial though - I assume that reactive or conflicting combinations of chemicals are considered by food safety authorities.
Not in the US, no. They are not considered by food or chemical safety authorities. This why for example, pesticides like Raid can have their active ingredients tested, but the formulation including a lot of unspecified "petroleum distilates" are not. Same goes for food.
All combinations of 'natural' foods/herbs/spices, natural-derived additives, traditional medicines, natural 'fad' foods (like 'acai berries'), and the vast unregulated 'natural supplement' market ought to also be considered for 'cocktail effects'.
Some things are tested by pure time. Like actual foods and spices. We know Curry is a safe spice in just about everything because the Indian subcontinent has been putting it in everything for 7000 years. I am sure there are herbal remedies that do have harmful interactions, they can definitely have harmful interactions with actual medications.

When you start using preservatives, they might be safe on their own in limited doses, but these preservatives often have a lot of industrial applications, and they can react with a lot of different things, not just the stuff in food, and it might be useful to test common synthetic food additives in combination with eachother to make sure their their interactions are safe.
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Well that sucks.
Some things are tested by pure time. Like actual foods and spices. We know Curry is a safe spice in just about everything because the Indian subcontinent has been putting it in everything for 7000 years. I am sure there are herbal remedies that do have harmful interactions, they can definitely have harmful interactions with actual medications.

When you start using preservatives, they might be safe on their own in limited doses, but these preservatives often have a lot of industrial applications, and they can react with a lot of different things, not just the stuff in food, and it might be useful to test common synthetic food additives in combination with eachother to make sure their their interactions are safe.
This seems like common sense - along with testing the other stuff I mentioned. Most combinations of those have probably not been tested by pure time.

I would say that this is another reason not to move to America, but I don't actually know if 'complete disregard for combinations' is how food & chemical 'safety' is practiced in Australia too. Now that I think about it, if it was given to me I would try to narrow it down to an optimal set of 'representative model cases', such as 'man living in this part of the country, likely to be exposed to XYZ'.

In any case, the two OP sentences that I ranted about were clearly written to scare.
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Well that sucks.
Tell me about it.

1) Anything other than the nactive ingredient in a formulation is not subject to testing. Medicine is, thankfully, different.
2) Combinations of formulations are not subject to testing
3) The peer reviewed literature is not consulted, only industry conducted studies done for approval
4) There are no conflict of interest rules with respect to management within regulatory agencies, and industry ties. Often management positions in the EPA, FDA etc are revolving doors, with people on the payroll of say, a chemical manufacturer going to work for the EPA/FDA/USDA serving their term, and then going back to their home company with a promotion.
if it was given to me I would try to narrow it down to an optimal set of 'representative model cases', such as 'man living in this part of the country, likely to be exposed to XYZ'.
That is exactly what one should do.
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Darth Fanboy wrote:This article has a picture of her in case anyone was interested to know.
Well, I have to say that was unexpected. I had imagined her looking as bad as the woman in the video I posted.
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Executor32 wrote:Well, I have to say that was unexpected. I had imagined her looking as bad as the woman in the video I posted.
Yeah, I had the metabolism of a hummingbird at the age of 17, too. Cheesy Potato Girl (CPG) only ballooned up within the last 10 years (and was at press time 34) according to the video. If Chicken Nugget Girl (CNG) keeps this shit up into her 20s, she's going to look as bad on the outside as she probably does on the inside.

On the other hand, I think CNG has a better chance of unassisted long-term recovery. According to the article, she eats other things whenever she feels like it, and is more-or-less just a picky eater who is kind of a bitch to her mother, IMHO. CPG has a genuine phobia, stemming from the ham & eggs incident when she was 4. She fears the humiliation of barfing in front of everybody upon exposure to unfamiliar food, which is why she won't eat in front of her own husband even though she knows that he knows what she's putting in her mouth. [/armchair shrink]

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Raw Shark wrote:Yeah, I had the metabolism of a hummingbird at the age of 17, too. Cheesy Potato Girl (CPG) only ballooned up within the last 10 years (and was at press time 34) according to the video. If Chicken Nugget Girl (CNG) keeps this shit up into her 20s, she's going to look as bad on the outside as she probably does on the inside.
I disagree. I lived with a girl who once said, and I quote, 'I think I'm going to have KFC tonight because I'm getting sick of pizza.' She never put on any weight, never had any skin problems. She still looks like a model, and she's nearly thirty.
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Yikes. Even MY diet isn't that restricted. But I still keep a steady input of multivitamins and the occasional dedicated supplement.
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