Israel Teams With Terror Group to Kill Irans Nuke Scientists

[Thanas]

I skipped through that list. Apparently researching anything "related to nuclear power" is enough to land you on that list. I find that pretty bad proof as to whether guys are actually working on nuclear weapons or just doing their jobs as nuclear physicists.

Each entity has different data. Some of the entries are definitely on the skimpy side, but there is a lot of detail in some others. The list is supposed to be as comprehensive a look at Iran's nuclear activities as possible. The entries for Tehran university, for instance, go into detail about Britain, Germany and Japan denying export licenses and some of the history.

Yeah, but his name does not come up so far.

[irishmick79]

I skipped through that list. Apparently researching anything "related to nuclear power" is enough to land you on that list. I find that pretty bad proof as to whether guys are actually working on nuclear weapons or just doing their jobs as nuclear physicists.

Each entity has different data. Some of the entries are definitely on the skimpy side, but there is a lot of detail in some others. The list is supposed to be as comprehensive a look at Iran's nuclear activities as possible. The entries for Tehran university, for instance, go into detail about Britain, Germany and Japan denying export licenses and some of the history.

Yeah, but his name does not come up so far.

Actually, his name did pop up in the entry for Tehran University, which I just now noticed. We're talking about Ali Mohammadi, right?

[Thanas]

Yeah - missed it as well. Consider the matter conceded then.

[irishmick79]

Yeah - missed it as well. Consider the matter conceded then.

Thanks. Although I should point out that Tehran University hasn't been formally put on the sanctions list. You can find that list elsewhere on the website I linked to. Looks like some export permits have been approved and some haven't. I would venture to guess that a considerable amount of doubt exists surrounding the role of Tehran University in Iran's weapons programs, and that Iran's demonstrated lack of transparency with its nuclear activities is leading some to widen their suspicions. I would hope that the Israelis and the Americans aren't letting the National Council of Resistance of Iran provide them with target lists, and that there is some sort of secondary verification of intel concerning these scientists.

[Darth Wong]

In other words, it's terrorism when the "bad guys" do something but it's not terrorism when the "good guys" do exactly the same thing.

Damn it, I may be wrong on the general question but I never said that.

Yes you did, and don't be a fucking weasel about it. You claimed that it's not terrorism unless it's "wrongful" terrorism. In other words, terrorism in the service of goals you agree with is somehow not terrorism. Your entire argument was based on the word "wrongful", which you used repeatedly as the only differentiation between terrorism and not-terrorism.

And of course, you repeat your asinine strawman conversion of "systematic use of fear" into "any kind of force".

"Systematic use of fear" has a clear meaning, but it includes a lot of borderline cases. What are the limits of it?
Is any deliberate attempt to scare a group of people "systematic use of fear?" I'd think so, there's a one to one relationship there.

Yet again, you keep smearing different concepts together, either because you're dishonest or because you're a fucking idiot. "any deliberate attempt to scare a group of people" is not the same thing as "any kind of force". You insist on taking a simple proposition and broadening it so enormously that it no longer bears any resemblance to the original statement.

[PeZook]

Yes you did, and don't be a fucking weasel about it. You claimed that it's not terrorism unless it's "wrongful" terrorism. In other words, terrorism in the service of goals you agree with is somehow not terrorism. Your entire argument was based on the word "wrongful", which you used repeatedly as the only differentiation between terrorism and not-terrorism.

You know,all other things aside, on this particular matter Simon did outright say that Al-Quaueda blowing up warships or Marine barracks or tank factories isn't terrorism, which to me indicates that he does recognize the fact it's possible to support goals he does not agree with via explosives, yet not be a terrorist.