Microsoft attacks FTP sites for hosting OpenOffice

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-08 12:33am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:
See the other thread. Microsoft's response to dropping profits is to force everyone onto a Palladium/.NET infrastructure where software is rented as a service and all user data is stored on central servers controlled by Microsoft.
Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.
Its easy enough to solve, specify that you dont want Xp and get linux instead.

Actually agreements with M$ make this difficult. Just tell a friend to build one for you.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-08 12:34am

Shinova wrote:Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.

The last Microsoft OS without .NET hooks was Windows 2000 with SP2 installed.

Win2K SP3 and XP both have some degree of .NET infestation although it remains unknown how much of the infestation is used. Note also that the license terms for W2K SP3 and Win XP both allow Microsoft to break into your computer without your permission and do whatever they want whenever they want.

Win2K SP2 is the last version of Windows that's safe for end users.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-03-08 12:36am

Pu-239 wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Shinova wrote: Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.
Its easy enough to solve, specify that you dont want Xp and get linux instead.
Actually agreements with M$ make this difficult. Just tell a friend to build one for you.

Yeah? shit, combine that with customer ignorance about computer...I despair sometimes.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-03-08 12:38am

Enlightenment wrote:
Shinova wrote:Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.
The last Microsoft OS without .NET hooks was Windows 2000 with SP2 installed.

Win2K SP3 and XP both have some degree of .NET infestation although it remains unknown how much of the infestation is used. Note also that the license terms for W2K SP3 and Win XP both allow Microsoft to break into your computer without your permission and do whatever they want whenever they want.

Win2K SP2 is the last version of Windows that's safe for end users.

And its why I will never go beyoned it, I will soon be teaching myself Linux.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-08 12:39am

Enlightenment wrote:
Shinova wrote:Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.
The last Microsoft OS without .NET hooks was Windows 2000 with SP2 installed.

Win2K SP3 and XP both have some degree of .NET infestation although it remains unknown how much of the infestation is used. Note also that the license terms for W2K SP3 and Win XP both allow Microsoft to break into your computer without your permission and do whatever they want whenever they want.

Win2K SP2 is the last version of Windows that's safe for end users.

I still use 98.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-03-08 12:41am

Pu-239 wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:
Shinova wrote:Do you know when this will be put into effect? I'm gonna get a new computer sometime this year and I don't want it infested by Palladium/.NET.
The last Microsoft OS without .NET hooks was Windows 2000 with SP2 installed.

Win2K SP3 and XP both have some degree of .NET infestation although it remains unknown how much of the infestation is used. Note also that the license terms for W2K SP3 and Win XP both allow Microsoft to break into your computer without your permission and do whatever they want whenever they want.

Win2K SP2 is the last version of Windows that's safe for end users.
I still use 98.

Gahh, I cant stand that, you cannot fart near a 9x series without the need to restart.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-08 12:42am

I see no more hope for the US of A. It is becoming infested with fundies, morons, and otherwise ignorant and apathetic people.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-08 12:46am

Pu-239 wrote:I see no more hope for the US of A. It is becoming infested with fundies, morons, and otherwise ignorant and apathetic people.

That is why I like SETI.

It's the only organization that's making an effort to somehow get alien races to notice us and slap some common sense into our world leaders.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-03-08 12:52pm

So, Microsoft wants to control all PC use and nobody will stop them? And the results would be far worse than having to use a glitchy OS, like having our privacy invaded? We're screwed, unless Microsoft decides not to be so greedy and corrupt.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-03-08 02:19pm

Enlightenment wrote:The Business Software Alliance, an organization primarily backed and funded by Microsoft, has used script spiders to attack and harass public FTP sites for mirroring OpenOffice.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/28/1317244

Remember, dear site owners, challenging Microsoft is unAmerican.

That's interesting. I use OpenOffice on SuSE Linux 8.1, although I can't get the PowerPoint clone to work correctly (it shuts down when I try to save anything).

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-08 02:51pm

I wonder if went over any UK servers, they could be done under the computer misuse act then and that has I think a maximum penalty of 5 years in jail.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-03-08 03:46pm

Pu-239 wrote: M$ will lose a large deal of marketshare if that happens.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?d ... 7-22&res=l

But, on topic... why is it that no one in Congress has pointed out that Palladium would be a clear violation of privacy?

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-08 04:03pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Pu-239 wrote: M$ will lose a large deal of marketshare if that happens.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?d ... 7-22&res=l

But, on topic... why is it that no one in Congress has pointed out that Palladium would be a clear violation of privacy?

Well MS and the entertainment industry has solved that with campaign contributions

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-03-08 05:19pm

Please excuse me while I move to a country that respects it's citizen's rights.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-03-08 05:31pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:So, Microsoft wants to control all PC use and nobody will stop them? And the results would be far worse than having to use a glitchy OS, like having our privacy invaded? We're screwed, unless Microsoft decides not to be so greedy and corrupt.

That's like a Serial Killer deciding to put the knife away for good, the lion deciding against its burning hunger for meat, the Sun deciding it'll get out of the "Giant-Fusion-Reactor-With-Planets-Around-It" business... Catch my drift?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-09 02:13am

Enlightenment wrote: Remember, dear site owners, challenging Microsoft is unAmerican.

Once again, Unenlightened puts his foot in his FUCKING mouth again

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-09 02:21am

MKSheppard wrote:
Enlightenment wrote: Remember, dear site owners, challenging Microsoft is unAmerican.
Once again, Unenlightened puts his foot in his FUCKING mouth again

It was sarcasm. Besides, M$ (or was it just Gates) really did say open source was "unamerican"

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-09 02:28am

Pu-239 wrote: It was sarcasm. Besides, M$ (or was it just Gates) really did say open source was "unamerican"

Remind me to slag Microsoft sometime in the future.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-09 02:37am

Pu-239 wrote:It was sarcasm. Besides, M$ (or was it just Gates) really did say open source was "unamerican"

It wasn't sarcasm. I was making an oblique reference to Microsoft's position on open source and the fact that US government has effectively given Microsoft unconditional backing to break the law in any way it sees fit.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-09 02:53am

SirNitram wrote: I will miss my games, but my freedom and privacy come first.

It's easy!

Have a Win2K machine completely disconnected from the net sit in
a corner and use THAT to play games, and use Linux for the net!

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-09 02:57am

MKSheppard wrote:
Have a Win2K machine completely disconnected from the net sit in
a corner and use THAT to play games, and use Linux for the net!

I think the only problem to that would be that computer games will become more graphics-intensive and such as time goes on. Eventually you'll have to upgrade and in the case that Microsoft somehow gets Palladium onto all computers, then you're screwed gamewise.

Unless you get someone to build you the comp. Then maybe you can still be on the safe side.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-03-09 03:08am

Enlightenment wrote:
Pu-239 wrote:It was sarcasm. Besides, M$ (or was it just Gates) really did say open source was "unamerican"
It wasn't sarcasm. I was making an oblique reference to Microsoft's position on open source and the fact that US government has effectively given Microsoft unconditional backing to break the law in any way it sees fit.

Ok, on second though my statement was self contradictory.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-03-09 04:40am

XP is the last Windows OS I'll ever use. At present I'm running a dual-boot XP Pro / Mandrake 9 box and, apart from a few glitches, gaming is the only thing I can't fully do in Linux.

But this will change, better emulation is being developed, X is constantly being improved. I just read on slashdot that Linus is putting in better process interactivity in the 2.6.x kernel. Makes the X windows system far more responsive, which will be good for the gaming industry.

I highly reccomend Mandrake 9 to any newbies thinking of trying Linux; reasonably powerful, most painless installation and comes with a shitload of stuff.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-09 05:13am

Spyder wrote: I highly reccomend Mandrake 9 to any newbies thinking of trying Linux; reasonably powerful, most painless installation and comes with a shitload of stuff.

Linux is shit. I just installed a NATO Font pack program from here a few
hours ago:

http://www.mapsymbs.com/

and already, I'm cranking out stuff like this:

Whereas with Linux, if I wanted to install a freeware program, I'd
have to find the goddamned tarball, find a compiler, and then
fucking compile it myself...

The only Linux program that was worth shit, was OpenOffice, since
it had a decent installer...

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-09 05:22am

MKSheppard wrote:Linux is shit.

Linux is not shit. It's superior to any Windows in OS structure, stability, and a more. Plus, it's free and it has none of all the strings attached to Windows and its programs.

I'm sure Wong and a few others can elaborate on this much beter than I can.

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