SDNW5 Preliminary Discussion Thread

[cadbrowser]

I think I may use the name Omni for my "race" of AI.

Oh, and Cadbrowser: your die roll is a 6

Ok, great! thank you. So my NPC is 31 then. Hmmm...ok...I am going to get started on the backstory and everything else.

[Simon_Jester]

OK, here's an updated player list. Am I missing anyone?

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Akhlut:
Hegemony of the Gray Kritarchy
5

Beowulf:
Clan Guys
4

Cadbrowser:
Omni-Killbots
6

Crossroads:
Unnamed
Micronation

Dark Hellion
Sqee
7

Darkevilme:
Chamarran Empire
10

Demiurgas:
Eagleland
6

Eleventh Century Remnant
Wandering Terraformer Robot Octopi
9

Esquire:
Hellenic Confederacy
9

FaxModem1
Empire of Tweed
Micronation

Feralgnoll
Braxian Collective
6

Force Lord:
Centrality
7

Imperial528
Confederate of Cerna
8

Irishmick
Republic of Telkin
Micronation

Karmic Knight
The Commonwealth of (Buh?)
7

KhorneFlakes
Screworlders
6

Lonestar
Grand Dominion
7

OmegaChief:
Capellan Authority
4

Panzersharkcat:
Bastian Star Empire
10

Rabid
The Nation/The Community/The Stellar Nation/The Doxa/SPACE GYPSIES
6

Romulan Republic
??? (Possibly a republic of Romulans?)
Micronation

Ralin
Whole Mess of Space Gypsies
4

Ryan Thunder
Sanctum
Micronation

Scottish Ninja
Volscian Confederacy
12

Shinn Langley Soryu
Holy Empire of Haruhi Suzumiya?
10

Shep
Shepistan
9

Simon_Jester:
Technocracy of Umeria
7

Skywalker_T-65
Arcadia
5

Tanasinn
Federal Union of Enslaved Subjugated Stuckenated Independent Worlds
7

TimothyC
Bird Plane Krypton
Micronation

TronPaul
The ((((GSN) Space Nation) Space Nation) Space Nation) Space Nation)
[Also known as Recursionstan]
Micronation?
5, if he wants it to be that big.

Vanas:
An Entire Great and Bountiful Empire of Goddamn Bees
6

White Haven:
League of Thought
8

Zor:
A Unified Empire
8

[Simon_Jester]

Another question: is everyone here comfortable with a game start date of, say, 3300 AD? That gives us roughly one thousand years from a plausible "beginning of interstellar exploration" date on Earth, enough time for human nations to spread across the galaxy and settle large volumes of space.

(Yes, this is earlier in time than the SDNW4 start. That is somewhat deliberate).

If anyone would prefer another year, please nominate- I don't much care, although I think the rough timeframe is about right-ish. In my own posts as a player, I'm going to presume 3300 is the correct year for game start unless we change our minds about that, in which case I'll go back and fix everything. It's not really important to me, I just want to have some number.

[Crossroads Inc.]

The Years won't be an issue for me as all my races are alien and will just be making conatct with Humans.

[Imperial528]

I'm fine with 3300, it works for me.

[Rabid]

I have no problem with that : it won't change the foundation date of the Doxa (c. 2000 years before game-start, give or take a hundred years or two).

[cadbrowser]

I am good with 3300 AD. Is perfectly aligned with what I want to do.

[OmegaChief]

3300AD works fine for me, puts the Authority bursting onto the scene at about the year 3000, they love auspicious numbers like that.

[Esquire]

Another yea vote for 3300.

[Dark Hellion]

I'd vote but I apparently don't exist in Simons world anymore .

Anywho, I am fine with 3300CE and need to be put on the player list with a roll of 7.

Thanks.

[Simon_Jester]

Crap, I'm sorry, I could have sworn I edited you in- I was copy-pasting it in and out of the reply box so many times I guess I got mixed up.

EDIT: OK, some proposed construction rules are up. I don't want people jumping the gun on declaring their construction for the year game starts- as we did with SDNW4, we'll have a special thread for declaring construction plans, and I'll start it when we get closer to game start, OK?

[Crossroads Inc.]

When you say "construction plans" do you mean OOB of stuff? or "Special progects" that we may be planning?

[Simon_Jester]

Er, I am referring specifically to new construction added to the nation's military order of battle after game start. If you've got glourious infrastructural plans, that's a separate issue, and I don't want to impose rules on that because it would be pointless and unnecessary. The military rules are only as complicated as they are so that:

1) Nobody can pull new battleships out of their ass whenever they like, and
2) People actually have some idea of how certain actions translate into points, so that they are less afraid to engage in those actions. Things like ground troop construction and ship upgrades were rare in the last game for precisely this reason- although ship upgrades probably still won't be too good an idea, and I want people to think carefully before heavily upgrading a warship, about exactly why they aren't just building a new one.

[Rabid]

More like what your shipyards & armies are building at the time of game start.

Edit : Ninja'ed

[OmegaChief]

Your starting OOB is required and goes up on the nation description thread along with all of ours though.

[Simon_Jester]

Well.

A micronation's order of battle isn't such a big deal, I don't care so much because it's so dangerous.

Construction rules are designed to work per year: you have a limit on the amount of stuff you can build in the year 3300, then can build another pile of stuff in 3301, and so on.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Ok so here is the break down of what I would LIKE to have...

Sector-1 5 NCP (3 star systems, 3 Habitable worlds, 7 Inhabited settlements).
10000 GDP

Sector-2 3 NCP (2 star systems 3 Habitable worlds, 6 inhabited settlements)
6000 GDP

Sector-3 1NCP (1 star system, 1 Habitable world, 3 inhabited settlements)
2000 GDP

2 points set aside for trade routes.

That gives a total of 11points and 18000 GDP.
Total Habitat planets 7.
Total settlements (IE Asteroid factories, colonies, mining stations) 16

So…. Given the amount of planets and colonies. Should I have MORE Points? Less? or is this about right?

[Simon_Jester]

Hm.

Are you just trying to fit in the number of planets you feel you need? Or is it important to you to have those 11 NCP?

[Crossroads Inc.]

Points are not important, the planets are for purposes of "Plot" I really couldn't play the group I have in mind with any less.

EDIT: well ok Points are "Nice" I mean, of course it would be nice to have a little bit more muscle, but not needed.

[Simon_Jester]

Well, you could play it with a midrange sector and two colonies- it would work, you just wouldn't have a high end economy. Midrange planets aren't poor, after all. They're just not Coruscants or Trantors.

But I'm not inherently opposed to giving Crossroadia (or whatever you're calling it) 11 NCPs. I want to know what some players think about that- it'd put you above the common run of micronations, but still not large or strong.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Putting it to a vote would be something I am up for.
After reviewing just what exactly a "micronation" is. It wouldn't really be me. I DO plan on being directly active and I Do plan on, at some point needing a valid military.
On the same token, following both my own "Plot" and story, I know I would be barely half of a full sized nation.

So if others are ok with me being a "medium" nation on 11 points, that would work for me,

[Simon_Jester]

Nothing says micronations can't be active- they're just designed to offer a bit more flexibility than "Rule your interstellar empire of between two and four dozen systems!"

However, I'm not opposed to the existence of smaller states than that. So yeah, let's see what people think.

[OmegaChief]

I don't see there being any harm in someone wanting to run with any state with any number of NCP they choose up to about 15-20, though at the upper range you start to get into concepts where you may as well just roll a Macronation.

That said, only if it's thier only nation in the game, otherwise being able to spring up a MAcronation and a mid-range nation could be problomatic.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Posted Fluff on my races and "Nation" curious for feed back

[Rabid]

Well, if they're newcomers on the galactic scales it makes sense to have them be relatively small compared to other Macro-Nation, but still be a few steps above a Micro-Nation.

I have no problem with the Idea.

And, well... New converts to the Doxa are always a good thing.