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Re: DDG 1002 Lyndon B Johnson.

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"Enterprise" would be available, as well, as she certainly will be decommissioned by that time.
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Simon_Jester wrote:I'd be really surprised if they name a carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or something in 2020. Although CVN-79, the one after Ford, is due to be named... John F. Kennedy. This would complete the cycle, since he was the first president they named a carrier for, too.
Simon, as noted in the other thread FDR was the first one to get a carrier named after him (CV[B/A]-42, Commissioned in '45, Decommissioned in '77).

Edit: Naming after Politicians goes back a bit further - CV[A]-59 was named after a former Secretary of the Navy (Forrestal), and CV-13 was named after Ben. Franklin.
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TimothyC wrote:Simon, as noted in the other thread FDR was the first one to get a carrier named after him (CV[B/A]-42, Commissioned in '45, Decommissioned in '77).
Oops. I'm wrong.

In mitigation, he at least died in office- by the same argument I get naming a carrier after Kennedy, you want to honor someone who worked hard, did some things people respect, and "died in harness." And this was, in both cases, done not long after their deaths, as a form of memorial. I understand that.

But naming carriers for just any random president who happens to be historically recent, I don't like that.
Edit: Naming after Politicians goes back a bit further - CV[A]-59 was named after a former Secretary of the Navy (Forrestal), and CV-13 was named after Ben. Franklin.
Franklin doesn't count- he died over 150 years before the carrier was laid down. Naming the ship after him wasn't a political statement, it was a historical statement.

Forrestal? I don't know what to think of that one.
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What political statement do you thing was trying to be made. He was simply a president and former member of the Navy. I don't think more thought went into it than that. Every president that has naval service has gotten a ship, they even gave Carter a submarine since he was a bubble head.
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Simon_Jester wrote:I'd be really surprised if they name a carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or something in 2020. Although CVN-79, the one after Ford, is due to be named... John F. Kennedy. This would complete the cycle, since he was the first president they named a carrier for, too.
There's already a Eisenhower. My old Scoutmaster in the 90s was the CO.
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Lonestar wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:I'd be really surprised if they name a carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or something in 2020. Although CVN-79, the one after Ford, is due to be named... John F. Kennedy. This would complete the cycle, since he was the first president they named a carrier for, too.
There's already a Eisenhower. My old Scoutmaster in the 90s was the CO.
I know. She was laid down in 1970, when there were still a lot of people arond who'd voted for Eisenhower and his presidency was recent memory. CVN-80 is going to be laid down in 2020, when the youngest people who voted for Eisenhower will be eighty-five years old, and the youngest people with any clear memory of his presidency will be past retirement age.

Will anyone name another carrier after the man then, or later, when CVN-69 retires?? Maybe, but I kind of doubt it.
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Simon_Jester wrote:I'd be really surprised if they name a carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or something in 2020. Although CVN-79, the one after Ford, is due to be named... John F. Kennedy. This would complete the cycle, since he was the first president they named a carrier for, too.
I'm an LBJ fan, but of all the post-World War II presidents, Ike probably deserves one the most; its between him and Harry Truman as the best, I think.
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Simon_Jester wrote:
Lonestar wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:I'd be really surprised if they name a carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or something in 2020. Although CVN-79, the one after Ford, is due to be named... John F. Kennedy. This would complete the cycle, since he was the first president they named a carrier for, too.
There's already a Eisenhower. My old Scoutmaster in the 90s was the CO.
I know. She was laid down in 1970, when there were still a lot of people arond who'd voted for Eisenhower and his presidency was recent memory. CVN-80 is going to be laid down in 2020, when the youngest people who voted for Eisenhower will be eighty-five years old, and the youngest people with any clear memory of his presidency will be past retirement age.

Will anyone name another carrier after the man then, or later, when CVN-69 retires?? Maybe, but I kind of doubt it.
They could always try recycling some of the names used for the 41 for Freedom. Many of those people (with the obvious exceptions of traitors and malcontents like Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, and John C. Calhoun) are far more deserving of the honor of having a supercarrier named after them than, say, Ronald Reagan. Even Carl Vinson or John C. Stennis, who ostensibly did much for the U.S. Navy during their respective terms of office in Congress, should have never gotten carriers named after them.
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LaCroix wrote:"Enterprise" would be available, as well, as she certainly will be decommissioned by that time.
America must have a giant ship named Enterprise at all times. It's in the Constitution. Article 1701 i think.
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