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What's the URL?Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:Once again it's for a little 'Mesh O the Month' thing and the subject was weapons, so...
No, the magazine (assumed from the sources he based it on) is the slightly differently-colored piece on the lower back of the weapon.Oberleutnant wrote:Let me guess: the magazine would go on top of the weapon, as in P90? But where's the trigger?
Go with the slider stock. Or you could try a M4 Collapsible Stock type design.Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:The P90 is excellent for what it was designed to do (Police/special forces hostage type stuff) but is an impractical weapon for combat conditions because of the reasons already mentioned. However, it's small, light, has a helluva rate of fire and a big mag which makes it lovely to some folks. If you've ever tried to change a mag on one while being fired at however, you'll know it's a bitch at that too. Far too fiddly, but very novel design.
Mine however is a proper bullpup design, you'll now see from the updated picture below that I've added the magazine in it's correct position and added triggers, a flash-hider, rails and a stock to let you see what I'm thinking of doing. Non of it is final, merely a guide so I can guage reaction and check how things go together. The real bugger is the stock. It's got to be short and stubby as this is really a CQB weapon, but folding stocks just get in the way when stowed. I might try a sliding design like the MP5's, a solid one similar to this or a folding stock like a SPAS. We'll see how it goes.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kenny7/KBP3.jpg
The magazine also is prone to jamming in the weapon while being changed, and the feed system often jams during automatic fire. The weapon is also lightly built and suitable only for rear area troops who don't use them on a regular basis. Though it was never really intedned for front line personal. That's why only a few nations bought the piece of crap and at least one is already scrapping them.Cpt_Frank wrote:Make it a bullpup design and add a longer barrel.
It's nice otherwise.
Just by the way the P-90 is a bad design in many regards.
One thing is the magazine: if you have a partially full magazine and drop the gun the rounds will fly around in the magazine and jam the action.
As pdw maybe, but the P-90 is not suitable for combat.
Looks much better now! Very cool.Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:Mine however is a proper bullpup design, you'll now see from the updated picture below that I've added the magazine in it's correct position and added triggers, a flash-hider, rails and a stock to let you see what I'm thinking of doing.
*takes the Great Leader to the Gestapo Interrogation chambers underneathSea Skimmer wrote:If you mean the M41 from Aliens, you should knot that it IS a FAMAS, with part of an SPS-12 attached underneath.
*The Elite Guard easily free The Great Leader from the inept SS*MKSheppard wrote:*takes the Great Leader to the Gestapo Interrogation chambers underneathSea Skimmer wrote:If you mean the M41 from Aliens, you should knot that it IS a FAMAS, with part of an SPS-12 attached underneath.
the Gestapo HQ in Passchendale*
"Fool! Everyone knows the M-41 pulse rifle is a M1 Thompson SMG, but gussied up!"
VERY nice! You nailed the stock down perfectly. The magazine would make more sense with either a flat bottom like the FN FAL pictured, or a slight forward curve, rather like an M16 mag.Kenny_10_Bellys wrote:OK then, textures changed and added a bit more detail to it as well. I plumped for a sliding stock as it fitted in well between the upper cowling and the main gun body, as well as looking the best when retracted. It's a bit more functional than the first design at any rate, and pretty much just a copy of the ones fitted to MP5s. I couldn't resist setting up a little scene with it, so the picture below is a little larger than the usual WIP shots, about 100k and 1024 x 768.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kenny7/KBPscene.jpg
Ok the 2 biggest problems with it is the mag and Sight placements. With the stock folded you can't se the sight (turn your head so it' level wth your shoulder and tell me how well you can aim from that positionKenny_10_Bellys wrote:OK then, textures changed and added a bit more detail to it as well. I plumped for a sliding stock as it fitted in well between the upper cowling and the main gun body, as well as looking the best when retracted. It's a bit more functional than the first design at any rate, and pretty much just a copy of the ones fitted to MP5s. I couldn't resist setting up a little scene with it, so the picture below is a little larger than the usual WIP shots, about 100k and 1024 x 768.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kenny7/KBPscene.jpg
), the feed mechanism for your Mag has nowhere to exist. You need body space behind the mag to allow the working parts to work. Basically have the Butt end where you have it in the extended position and then extend the bodywork back to meet it, next, I must presume that the Black block sticking out at the base of the sight unit was meant to be the sight... bin that, the sight should be at the top of the housing and that allows it to be mounted on a proper Isolation base to protect it from the firing action of the weapon, major problems solved. Next you need some means to adjust the sight, and cock the weapon. You can put the Windage and Elevation adjustors in a recess along the base of the scope housing (the scope would be 'floating' seperate from the housing to allow for proper adjustments and to isolate it from knocks to the housing during handling), use dails, they're the best means and have been for over 100 years. The cocking handle? Well go the FAMAS route, place it on top (under the wireframe carrying handle), the ejection port is a problem as your breech is immediately above the thumbhole behind the pistol grip, and if you have the port over the magazine it's dangerously close to the firer (especially if someone fires it from the hip) so why not have the ejection port behind the mag and ejecting downwards (you now have the body room). ), you'd be better having it end flat and place a ring on the end, loose prongs are too prone to field damage (if one bends inwrds slightly, you're in a world of pain 
). Are you going to fit a bayonet lug, never underestimate the psychological boost a soldier gets from having a bayonet!. I also presume you're going with rifle grenades as there's nowhere to fit a Grenade Launcher.
