Chinese Philosophy

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-03-09 07:30am

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM

Well, that only helps prove (for myself, anyway) what I already knew: the Yin-Yang is the single most perfect philosophy of universal balance that man ever made.

Perhaps I will finally get that Yin-Yang symbol tattoo...

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-03-09 07:31am

Anyone else find ancient China fascinating?

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-03-09 07:49am

Because I grew up with it, I know it can all be boiled down to one thing: Balance.

Even in Western thought, this concept exists as the "Golden Mean". It's not exclusive to the chinese.

And Confucianism can be attributed as one of the main reasons why chinese culture was as stagnant as it was before the 20h century. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

The Nice Guy

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-03-09 08:22am

UltraViolence83 wrote:http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM

Well, that only helps prove (for myself, anyway) what I already knew: the Yin-Yang is the single most perfect philosophy of universal balance that man ever made.

Perhaps I will finally get that Yin-Yang symbol tattoo...

NOOOOOOO! don´t get one of these stupid yin-yang tatoos. too many people already have one.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-03-09 08:30am

salm wrote:
UltraViolence83 wrote:http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM

Well, that only helps prove (for myself, anyway) what I already knew: the Yin-Yang is the single most perfect philosophy of universal balance that man ever made. :)

Perhaps I will finally get that Yin-Yang symbol tattoo... :roll:
NOOOOOOO! don´t get one of these stupid yin-yang tatoos. too many people already have one.

Cliche....

If I was to get a tattoo I'd get the chinese character for "courage" done, probably on my arm. I had it done in henna for a while and it looked pretty good. Plus the definition of courage in the chinese language is fucking wicked.

Ravencrow · Post by **Ravencrow** » 2003-03-09 08:31am

I find Taoism is more flexible than Confusianism though. Taoism talks about getting used to change, to "flow like water", and just be; while Confusianism appears like a set of fixed rules on how one should behave.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-09 01:50pm

Ravencrow wrote:I find Taoism is more flexible than Confusianism though. Taoism talks about getting used to change, to "flow like water", and just be; while Confusianism appears like a set of fixed rules on how one should behave.

Confucianism has some pretty strict rules of how to function in society. I believe it also talks about a series of duties that people have to each other that govern interaction. I thinks it's like, father/son, husband/wife, friend/friend, and some other ones.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-03-09 02:22pm

weemadando wrote:
salm wrote:
UltraViolence83 wrote:http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM

Well, that only helps prove (for myself, anyway) what I already knew: the Yin-Yang is the single most perfect philosophy of universal balance that man ever made.

Perhaps I will finally get that Yin-Yang symbol tattoo...
NOOOOOOO! don´t get one of these stupid yin-yang tatoos. too many people already have one.
Cliche....

If I was to get a tattoo I'd get the chinese character for "courage" done, probably on my arm. I had it done in henna for a while and it looked pretty good. Plus the definition of courage in the chinese language is fucking wicked.

chinese letters are also old. everything that is or has been a trend i find a bit increative to get as tatoo. same with these tribal rings around people´s upper arms. they look nice, but they´re a trend.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-03-09 03:49pm

You guys wouldn't believe how ridiculous Chinese character tattoos look to people who can read them... You might as well put "Courage" in English on your shoulder

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2003-03-09 06:16pm

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-03-09 06:37pm

Hotfoot wrote:http://www.realmofconfusion.com/Lord-Bytor_tattoo.jpg

Yes, which is why I got a good friend to do it. A friend who happens to be Chinese.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-03-09 07:00pm

I am Chinese, and have had a lot of expirience with Chinese culture.

That being said, while some aspects of Chinese culture is good, the emphasis on obidience to seniority over all else, mysogony to a level that the most conservative western nation has yet to come close to matching, and a conformist attitute almost custom made to crush all innovation puts Chinese Culture up there with Fundie Christian and The Sambians in competetion for the Dumbest Culture Ever award.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-03-09 09:11pm

Exonerate wrote:You guys wouldn't believe how ridiculous Chinese character tattoos look to people who can read them... You might as well put "Courage" in English on your shoulder

Y'know, I've never actually seen anyone with a Chinese character tattoo. Or if I have, I've successfully blocked out the memory. But it does sound rather silly.

UltraViolence83 · Post by **UltraViolence83** » 2003-03-09 11:56pm

Aside from the entropy involved, I don't know what's so bad about a static society. Sometimes I wonder why we even bothered to come down from the trees...

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 2003-03-10 04:21am

The trouble with a Static Society (beyond the Entropy, Stasis=Death issue) is what happens when Static cultures run into Dynamic cultures.

The_Nice_Guy · Post by **The_Nice_Guy** » 2003-03-10 05:30am

The West slapped China silly. That about says it all.

The Nice Guy

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-03-11 03:51am

Darth Yoshi wrote:
Exonerate wrote:You guys wouldn't believe how ridiculous Chinese character tattoos look to people who can read them... You might as well put "Courage" in English on your shoulder
Y'know, I've never actually seen anyone with a Chinese character tattoo. Or if I have, I've successfully blocked out the memory. But it does sound rather silly.

Its very popular here in CA. Yesterday, I saw a girl at Costco with the character for Horse tatooed on the small of her back. She was a gwailo ( white ) and I had to really wonder if she knew what character she had. I pointed it out to my buddy, who is Chinese but cant read, and we had a good laugh.

When I worked at Circuit City a couple of the mexican girls got chinese tattoes that supposedly said "Fear No Man". Im not sure why that is supposed to be cool, the only character I could read was Man but who knows what the other part said.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-03-11 03:55am

UltraViolence83 wrote:Anyone else find ancient China fascinating?

I found a book in one of the libraries at San Jose State University that chronicled ancient Chinese cultural. I found it fascinating at the time and decided to check it out. That was 8 years ago so Ive forgotten most of it.

One thing that still stand out, was how Chinese hero's almost never get the girl like a Hero in the West does.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-03-11 04:13am

TrailerParkJawa wrote: Its very popular here in CA. Yesterday, I saw a girl at Costco with the character for Horse tatooed on the small of her back. She was a gwailo ( white ) and I had to really wonder if she knew what character she had. I pointed it out to my buddy, who is Chinese but cant read, and we had a good laugh.

You should have asked her.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-03-11 05:24am

UltraViolence83 wrote:Aside from the entropy involved, I don't know what's so bad about a static society. Sometimes I wonder why we even bothered to come down from the trees...

1 word: Starcraft

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-11 10:42am

TrailerParkJawa wrote: Its very popular here in CA. Yesterday, I saw a girl at Costco with the character for Horse tatooed on the small of her back. She was a gwailo ( white ) and I had to really wonder if she knew what character she had. I pointed it out to my buddy, who is Chinese but cant read, and we had a good laugh.

Could have been her sign.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-11 10:43am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
UltraViolence83 wrote:Anyone else find ancient China fascinating?
I found a book in one of the libraries at San Jose State University that chronicled ancient Chinese cultural. I found it fascinating at the time and decided to check it out. That was 8 years ago so Ive forgotten most of it.

One thing that still stand out, was how Chinese hero's almost never get the girl like a Hero in the West does.

Probably something like duty and obedience before the self and all that. So the hero doesn't get the girl at the end.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-03-11 01:42pm

neoolong wrote:
TrailerParkJawa wrote: Its very popular here in CA. Yesterday, I saw a girl at Costco with the character for Horse tatooed on the small of her back. She was a gwailo ( white ) and I had to really wonder if she knew what character she had. I pointed it out to my buddy, who is Chinese but cant read, and we had a good laugh.
Could have been her sign.

Thats true, I didnt think about that. Lets see 1978 would make her...counts fingers....25 this year. Yeah she might have been that old.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-03-11 02:19pm

Well if everyone is gonna make a fuss about Chinese tattoos, then I'll get mine in rune script ( http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/ ). So there!

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-11 04:13pm

Zoink wrote:Well if everyone is gonna make a fuss about Chinese tattoos, then I'll get mine in rune script ( http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/ ). So there!

That's why my illegible ancient script tattoos are Maya. Who in the hell can sight read Mayan?

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