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What kind of idiot would decide to rape someone because this Tosh douchebag would find it funny?Metahive wrote:Under what rock do you live where calling a person getting raped right then and there being funny is not a fucking encouragement? The only reason it wasn't a more direct call to action is because that would have been a possible felony and even a dumbass like Tosh knows better than to set himself up for a lawsuit like that.
Someone inclined to rape, or who has raped, of course. Rapists do exist, you know that, right? And they look just like everyone else so you can't pick 'em out of a crowd by sight. Get a crowd of a hundred or a couple hundred odds are you've got at least one in the crowd. Add in some alcohol to lower inhibitions and there you go.What kind of idiot would decide to rape someone because this Tosh douchebag would find it funny?
Okay, that's true, but how is it any more of an encouragement to rape than everything else he'd been saying?Broomstick wrote:Someone inclined to rape, or who has raped, of course. Rapists do exist, you know that, right? And they look just like everyone else so you can't pick 'em out of a crowd by sight. Get a crowd of a hundred or a couple hundred odds are you've got at least one in the crowd. Add in some alcohol to lower inhibitions and there you go.
Because he's pointing towards an actual person present within the crowd right then and there, you stupid gorilla ballsack. What's so hard to understand about that?Ralin wrote:Okay, that's true, but how is it any more of an encouragement to rape than everything else he'd been saying?Broomstick wrote:Someone inclined to rape, or who has raped, of course. Rapists do exist, you know that, right? And they look just like everyone else so you can't pick 'em out of a crowd by sight. Get a crowd of a hundred or a couple hundred odds are you've got at least one in the crowd. Add in some alcohol to lower inhibitions and there you go.
Do you have a source?Zablorg wrote:It should probably be pointed out that studies show a person's acceptance and enjoyment of rape jokes correlates with a greater acceptance of rape and self-reported behaviours of rape in general. Which makes it a pretty hugely threatening environment.
Interrupting any comedian makes you the point of ridicule for the rest of the night for that comedian any any comedians coming after them. That's what happens at a comedy club. If you interrupt a comedian who is crude and offensive in his regular set then expecting anything but the same with added vitriol for having broken the flow of his set is utter stupidity. The man already established that racism an sexism were part of his standard routine, what did she expect to happen?I love the guy who's terrified at any kind of silence, like, 'He'd better say pussy soon, or aaagh!' ... I'd hate to see you at a funeral or a wedding or something. 'Skynyrd! Shit, I'm sorry. Sorry, man. It was like 20 seconds of quiet, I thought I was going to shit my pants. I got real scared. My mom told me if it was quiet for more than 15 minutes, then goblins come out of the ground and rape you. So I thought I'd -- I was trying to protect everybody by yelling. I thought I would scream and make a weird chicken noise and scare the rape goblins away ... Is everyone OK? Has no one been raped? Then I think I'm right. I think I just saved the whole room.
To see how many of you disgusting fucks think its okay for someone to tell a woman, to her face, that she should be gang-raped on the spot, maybe?Wing Commander MAD wrote:I am going to have to agree with Alyrium on this. Then again, I too don't have much in the way boundaries when it comes to humor, I especially enjoy schadenfreude, and tend to like most of Daniel Tosh's stuff. Lagmonster is right about not confronting a performer on stage. My question is why is this in N&P and not someplace more appropriate like OT or Testing? It seems like this is more of an attempt to start off the Two Minutes Hate than it is something newsworthy to discuss. Hell, SLAM would be a better fit than N&P if the desire was to debate the morality of rape jokes. Zod, out of curiosity, what exactly was your rationale for posting this here instead of the aforementioned sections?
George Carlin once yelled "Would someone please shove a cock in that man's [a heckler] mouth already? Because that's what he really wants!" in the middle of his show when some asshole started heckling him during a religious joke. Was George encouraging oral/penile insertion without prior consent or not?Metahive wrote:Ralin wrote:He didn't encourage it. He just said it would be really funny if it happened.Broomstick wrote:Encouraging a felony assault/rape in response to heckling is all out of proportion to the offense, shithead.
It's as offensive as hell, but it's not a call to action.
Under what rock do you live where calling a person getting raped right then and there being funny is not a fucking encouragement?
Now that would have been comedy.General Zod wrote:I like to think there's a fine line between "shock" humor and stopping short of saying a person in the crowd should be savagely assaulted. I bet if he tried this in Florida he could have gotten his ass shot on stage and the shooter would've been able to plead stand your ground.Gandalf wrote:People are into "shock" humour. Look at Family Guy and South Park as key examples. Comedy Central presumably wants to chase that dollar.General Zod wrote:How the hell did this fuckwit actually get hired at Comedy Central?
Suppose he was in Texas, singled out a black man in the audience and said "wouldn't it be funny if 5 guys lynched this nigger?" I like to think that comedians should have repercussions if they're doing a bad job. Sure, they're there to make money, but if I did a bad job where I worked I could expect to be fired.Crown wrote: George Carlin once yelled "Would someone please shove a cock in that man's [a heckler] mouth already? Because that's what he really wants!" in the middle of his show when some asshole started heckling him during a religious joke. Was George encouraging oral/penile insertion without prior consent or not?
Discuss.
And that pretty much sums up the problem with rape culture.Zablorg wrote:It should probably be pointed out that studies show a person's acceptance and enjoyment of rape jokes correlates with a greater acceptance of rape and self-reported behaviours of rape in general. Which makes it a pretty hugely threatening environment.
I brought this up a page ago. It's obviously more of an incitement to violence because he was (sarcastically, he would have said) directly asking someone in the audience to do it. Safe in the knowledge that the odds of there being someone being lunatic enough to drop their pants and try would be basically zilch. I don't know dick about law, but I would have argued that Carlin's comment might have landed him in legal trouble if the crowd had turned on the guy. I'm not so convinced about Tosh's. But only because his jackass phrasing was wishy-washy enough that I think he skirted the edge of criminal liability.Crown wrote:George Carlin once yelled "Would someone please shove a cock in that man's [a heckler] mouth already? Because that's what he really wants!" in the middle of his show when some asshole started heckling him during a religious joke. Was George encouraging oral/penile insertion without prior consent or not?
Can someone who trusts PDFs dig up their methodology.Zablorg wrote:"The Effect of Sexist Humor and Type of Rape on Men's Self-Reported Rape Proclivity and Victim Blame", Current Research in Social Psychology (Vol. 13, No. 10), 2007
"The Enjoyment of Sexist Humor, Rape Attitudes, and Relationship Aggression in College Students", Sex Roles (Vol. 38, Nos. 9/10), 1998
No, he'dve been just as responsible as Carlin would've. The way statutes are written in the US you can't pull the whole "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest" routine and get away with it.Lagmonster wrote:I brought this up a page ago. It's obviously more of an incitement to violence because he was (sarcastically, he would have said) directly asking someone in the audience to do it. Safe in the knowledge that the odds of there being someone being lunatic enough to drop their pants and try would be basically zilch. I don't know dick about law, but I would have argued that Carlin's comment might have landed him in legal trouble if the crowd had turned on the guy. I'm not so convinced about Tosh's. But only because his jackass phrasing was wishy-washy enough that I think he skirted the edge of criminal liability.Crown wrote:George Carlin once yelled "Would someone please shove a cock in that man's [a heckler] mouth already? Because that's what he really wants!" in the middle of his show when some asshole started heckling him during a religious joke. Was George encouraging oral/penile insertion without prior consent or not?
That's the way the laws are written? It seems to me that calls to violence against abortion doctors (or for that matter, calls for "second amendment solutions" to undesirable politicians) are never punished.Block wrote:No, he'dve been just as responsible as Carlin would've. The way statutes are written in the US you can't pull the whole "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest" routine and get away with it.Lagmonster wrote:I brought this up a page ago. It's obviously more of an incitement to violence because he was (sarcastically, he would have said) directly asking someone in the audience to do it. Safe in the knowledge that the odds of there being someone being lunatic enough to drop their pants and try would be basically zilch. I don't know dick about law, but I would have argued that Carlin's comment might have landed him in legal trouble if the crowd had turned on the guy. I'm not so convinced about Tosh's. But only because his jackass phrasing was wishy-washy enough that I think he skirted the edge of criminal liability.Crown wrote:George Carlin once yelled "Would someone please shove a cock in that man's [a heckler] mouth already? Because that's what he really wants!" in the middle of his show when some asshole started heckling him during a religious joke. Was George encouraging oral/penile insertion without prior consent or not?
I noticed this thread last night and mentioned to the ol' lady "Tosh made a rape joke and people are mad."Serafina wrote:Which is why i am opposed to rape-jokes altogether. Just like you should be opposed to racist jokes in a society that has issues with racism - the jokes reinforce the problem by perpetuating stereotypes and giving the impression that it's not actually a serious problem.
I could ask the same thing about Dane Cook, Martin Lawrence, Kathy Griffin, or any other number of comedians I don't personally enjoy, Daniel Tosh being more "unoteworthy" for me in his stand-up (I can't get through an entire set of his, I get bored). His show is funny because he just takes jabs at random videos from the Internet.Ziggy Stardust wrote:I have no problem with offensive humor, but I just don't understand why people think Daniel Tosh, specifically, is funny.
I keep asking people but so far all I seem to get is goose-stepping around the answer. How is "wouldn't it be funny if 5 guys raped her" a joke? Are people's expectations of humor at a comedy club so low that a guy could get away with making nothing but barnyard noises and they'd still call it a joke?TheFeniX wrote:I noticed this thread last night and mentioned to the ol' lady "Tosh made a rape joke and people are mad."
