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Mitt Romney At The Olympics

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From criticising the biggest sporting event Britain has held in over 40 years, to "looking out of the backside of 10 Downing Street", Mitt Romney's first foreign trip of his presidential candidacy hasn't gone quite as well as he might have hoped. As the former Massachusetts governor continues to gaffe his way across London, here's a round-up of Romney's red-facers. So far.

On the Olympics: 'There are a few things that are disconcerting'

On Wednesday, the day he arrived in London, Romney was interviewed by NBC's Brian Williams. In a softball warm-up question, Williams asked Romney about his wife's horse, Rafalca, which will be in competition in the dressage, and whether Britain looked ready to host the Olympics. Easy, surely? Not for Romney.

"There are a few things that were disconcerting," Romney said of the event which has been 15 years in the planning and is expected to cost over £9bn.

"The stories about the private security firm not having enough people, the supposed strike of the immigration and customs officials – that obviously is not something which is encouraging."

It put a bit of a dampener on Romney's meeting with David Cameron on Thursday. "We are holding an Olympic Games in one of the busiest, most active, bustling cities anywhere in the world," the prime minister said, pointedly. "Of course it's easier if you hold an Olympic Games in the middle of nowhere." (Romney ran the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake Ciy, Utah.)

Red-face rating: 8/10. Take that, Romney! Now get that horse out of my sight.
Still, he's probably got a point.
On Ed Miliband: 'Mr Leader'

On to a meeting with the leader of the opposition Labour party, Ed Miliband – a man often criticised for being awkward and lacking a common touch. They should have got on famously. But Romney seemed to forget Miliband's name. "Like you, Mr Leader, I look forward to our conversations this morning," Romney said.

But he reeled it right back in, British-style, with some spontaneous patter about the weather. ("Could not be better. Fortunately the sunshine is out. The warmth is here.") And Miliband's team smoothed it over, recognising that American politicians often refer to each other by their titles.

Red-face rating: 3/10. You're not in North Korea now, mate.
Personally, I think three out of ten is overly generous; how hard would it have been to double-check the proper terminology?
On meeting the leader of MI6: 'Appreciating insights'

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And another Mitt Romney blunder: confirmed outside No 10 he met head of MI6. Aspiring US presidents not meant to say that

The existence of MI6, the international arm of the British secret service, was not officially acknowledged until 1994, 82 years after it was established. But the organisation is still shrouded in secrecy, and its operations – and the diary schedule of its chief – are rarely acknowledged. But here comes Romney, in fully open mode: "I appreciated the insights and perspectives of the leaders of the government here and the opposition here as well as the head of MI6".

Got any pics, Mitt?

Red-face rating: 5/10. "Area 51? Yeah, I went. Saw a load of aliens there. What of it?"
Does somebody want to tell me why a guy who has no official role in the US government besides "Senator of Utah" is being given a formal introduction to the head of MI6 in the first place? I can't imagine Ed Milliband being allowed to meet the director of the CIA should he happen to be in Washington DC for a sporting event.
At Downing Street: 'Looking out through No 10's backside'

There are two things you should know before you "look out of the backside of 10 Downing Street", as Mitt Romney did on Thursday.

Firstly, in Britain, "backside" means "ass". As in the part of the body. Secondly, "10 Downing Street" is often used in political reporting as a synonym for a press spokesman for the prime minister, in the same way as "the White House" can say things or have opinions.

Red-face rating: 2/10. A minor linguistic misunderstanding.
Have to give him that one, I guess; it does apparently have an innocuous meaning in certain regions of the US.
On the special relationship: 'Our Anglo-Saxon heritage'

Strictly speaking, this one isn't Romney's fault, but still, the media loves a narrative, and this comment certainly plays into it. Before the trip had even begun, a Romney "adviser" was quoted as saying the Republican contender would be better placed than Barack Obama to sustain the transatlantic relationship with the UK because of a shared "Anglo-Saxon heritage.

The racially-tinged remarks prompted outrage, and cued a stinging attack from vice-president Joe Biden. Andrea Saul, the senior Romney spokeswoman, attempted to row back but the damage was done.

Red-face rating: 8/10. What a way to begin.
Actually, this one's probably true as well; I bet David Cameron had never actually met a black person until Obama made his first official visit.
A final indignity: bashed by Boris

The London mayor, Boris Johnson, is not unfamiliar with foot-in-mouth syndrome. So it must have been particularly humiliating to be taunted by Johnson, speaking to a crowd of thousands at an Olympic torch ceremony in Hyde Park.

The Geiger counter of Olympo-mania is going to go zoink! off the scale! People are coming from around the world, and they're seeing us, and they're seeing the greatest country on Earth, aren't they? There are some people who are coming from around the world who don't yet know about all the preparations we've done to get London ready in the last seven years. I hear there's a guy called Mitt Romney who wants to know whether we're ready. Are we ready?

Red-face rating: 10/10. Time to go home?
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Zaune wrote: Does somebody want to tell me why a guy who has no official role in the US government besides "Senator of Utah" is being given a formal introduction to the head of MI6 in the first place? I can't imagine Ed Milliband being allowed to meet the director of the CIA should he happen to be in Washington DC for a sporting event.
If you’re going to make a post about Romney messing up, you really should learn who he actually is first. He was never a senator, and is not from nor ever has represented Utah politically. He was governor of Massachusetts and is currently a private citizen with no role in government what so ever. He was asked to takeover as head of the Salt Lake City Olympics in the role of a private citizen after a bribery scandal and crisis of financing almost scuttled the entire thing. This was not a political job.

A rather blatantly obvious reason to me exists as to why he might be invited to meet the head of MI6,… get this, maybe you think because the head of MI6 wanted to meet him? Pretty simple no? It’s the job of the head of MI6 to be an intelligence agent, like everyone below him. Its kind of a good idea to take the chance to meet with the guy who might soon be the most powerful man on the planet in an informal environment when you have the chance. It won't happen again.
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At Downing Street: 'Looking out through No 10's backside'

There are two things you should know before you "look out of the backside of 10 Downing Street", as Mitt Romney did on Thursday.

Firstly, in Britain, "backside" means "ass". As in the part of the body. Secondly, "10 Downing Street" is often used in political reporting as a synonym for a press spokesman for the prime minister, in the same way as "the White House" can say things or have opinions.

Red-face rating: 2/10. A minor linguistic misunderstanding.
Have to give him that one, I guess; it does apparently have an innocuous meaning in certain regions of the US.
No. Backside means ass pretty much everywhere in the english speaking world. You would say looking out the back of 10 Downing Street, or looking through the rear window or something like that.
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On the special relationship: 'Our Anglo-Saxon heritage'

Strictly speaking, this one isn't Romney's fault, but still, the media loves a narrative, and this comment certainly plays into it. Before the trip had even begun, a Romney "adviser" was quoted as saying the Republican contender would be better placed than Barack Obama to sustain the transatlantic relationship with the UK because of a shared "Anglo-Saxon heritage.

The racially-tinged remarks prompted outrage, and cued a stinging attack from vice-president Joe Biden. Andrea Saul, the senior Romney spokeswoman, attempted to row back but the damage was done.

Red-face rating: 8/10. What a way to begin.
I think the worst part about this is how by changing one word no one would've even blinked. It's hilarious to me that he doesn't realize what the difference between 'Heritage' with 'Culture' is when he himself comes from a multiethnic society who while they don't share the same heritage are almost uniformly culturally Anglo-Saxon.
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Hell he could omit the Anglo-Saxon part and just mention a 'shared heritage' which would have the added bonus of avoiding irritating all the Celts on both sides of the Pond.....
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Well....... Singlish does allow the use of back side without negative connotations due to literal translation of the chinese noun, but then again, backside in Singlish is also used as an insult and reference to ass.........
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'Backside' in Hinglish is less a synonym for the human posterior and is used more in the way Mittens meant. I would be less surprised if an Indian had used it this way.
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Actually, even low level government officials from, say, Germany, have met with the director of the CIA when they were only visiting the USA, so at least that point is somewhat moot, Zaune.
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I wouldn't call Salt Lake City the middle of nowhere either. There is a reason it has the nickname, "The Crossroads of the West." Barring that let me point out that the only reason to even bring it up is because Mitt took something that was quickly becoming a massive nightmare and turned it into the most successful Olympics yet. Is the person from London trying to imply that just because he has a bigger city that somehow excuses him from any responsibility for any problems that will or have arose in the hosting of the games?

That is the very definition of cop-out.
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Isolder74 wrote:I wouldn't call Salt Lake City the middle of nowhere either. There is a reason it has the nickname, "The Crossroads of the West." Barring that let me point out that the only reason to even bring it up is because Mitt took something that was quickly becoming a massive nightmare and turned it into the most successful Olympics yet. Is the person from London trying to imply that just because he has a bigger city that somehow excuses him from any responsibility for any problems that will or have arose in the hosting of the games?
To be fair the Mayor does have a point, Salt Lake City has room to grow, London does not. If you go four miles from the center of Salt Lake City your in the middle of wide open underdeveloped land (Or mountains). To get outside the M25 you need about twenty five miles of traveling time. The point is London is an old damn city with lots of construction and development that's been ongoing for thousands of years. Salt Lake City by contrast is less than two hundred years old.

It's like if America like New York City host the games. Everything that's not built on is a state park already. There's just very little room to take a city with a population of seven million and throw in another million plus on top of that. Salt Lake City by contrast barely had 180k people in 2002 and the Olympics in 2002 drew in a quick Google search tells me about three hundred thousand tourists and attendees as London unlike Salt Lake City is easy to get to from a dozen countries.

That does not excuse the fact that yes London does not have it's shit together by farming all this stuff out to unproven private contractors. But then that's always the way with such efforts when you go from 90% Government/10% Private Corporations to 90% Private Corporations/10% Government

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I'd hardly say G4S was 'unproven', as it is the largest security firm on the planet. Thats not to excuse the gov for taking them at their word, of course.
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Dartzap wrote:I'd hardly say G4S was 'unproven', as it is the largest security firm on the planet. Thats not to excuse the gov for taking them at their word, of course.
Have they worked for London before and/or safeguarded any English sporting events up to this point? If so I withdraw my objection, if not the point stands.

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The obvious rejoinder of 'well don't put the fucking games in London, then' comes to mind. England is a country, not a city-state. That is sort of the obvious fix to 'fitting the games in the middle of London is hard.'
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Dartzap wrote:I'd hardly say G4S was 'unproven', as it is the largest security firm on the planet. Thats not to excuse the gov for taking them at their word, of course.
Have they worked for London before and/or safeguarded any English sporting events up to this point? If so I withdraw my objection, if not the point stands.
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White Haven wrote:The obvious rejoinder of 'well don't put the fucking games in London, then' comes to mind.
Birmingham bid in 1996, Manchester in 2000 and 2004. After three failures in a row it was pretty obvious that the IOC wouldn't accept anywhere less famous than London.
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White Haven wrote:The obvious rejoinder of 'well don't put the fucking games in London, then' comes to mind. England is a country, not a city-state. That is sort of the obvious fix to 'fitting the games in the middle of London is hard.'
No point bringing that up; when the New Wembley was going to be built, the BBC (I think) did a poll as to where people thought it should be built, and most of the country stated Birmingham, you know Britain's second largest city that sits in, you know, right smack in the centre of England making it easy to get to for people from the South as well as the North.

So what did the FA decide? Sod that, we're building it in London. In one of the hardest to get to places as well, just so we can fuck with all those Northern Monkeys!*


*Ok, that last part was explained to me by a scouser, so a slight bias might have coloured the events.
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White Haven wrote:The obvious rejoinder of 'well don't put the fucking games in London, then' comes to mind.
Birmingham bid in 1996, Manchester in 2000 and 2004. After three failures in a row it was pretty obvious that the IOC wouldn't accept anywhere less famous than London.
Which is pretty stupid, because smaller cities (with room to develop) have an easier time hosting the games, are no less capable to do so (since they'll get lots of cash from their country anyway) and profit more from it (because they are more likely to lack some of the infrastructure that will be built and will get a bigger publicity boost out of it).

But apparently the IOC chooses the cities based on "how much prestige will we get from hosting in a famous city" rather than "how well will the games go and how much will our hosts profit from us".
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Zaune wrote:Actually, this one's probably true as well; I bet David Cameron had never actually met a black person until Obama made his first official visit.
Le pardon? :|

I met several black shopkeepers in small rural village in Northern Scotland, London, by comparison, is the most fucking multi-ethnic city in Europe and maybe in the world. How one goes not meeting non-whites there?
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Serafina wrote:But apparently the IOC chooses the cities based on "how much prestige will we get from hosting in a famous city" rather than "how well will the games go and how much will our hosts profit from us".
On the contrary, the IOC guy making a speech in the middle of the opening ceremony made a very good point; London is a global city. It has a huge pool of volunteers able to help with the games (e.g. my wife is a volunteer SCUBA diver in the aquatics center, mostly assisting with the underwater cameras), many of which are multilingual. It has by far the largest amount of hotel rooms, rentable apartments, resturants (catering to every possible taste) etc. London is a major tourist destination packed with things to see and do other than the games themselves. London has one of the largest public transport systems on the planet, and with everyone who can working from home or taking alternate transportation it has significant spare capacity to get people around. Finally it is relatively easy to raise corporate sponsorship funds due to the number of wealthy firms in the area and the profile of the location.

Manchester and Birmingham are just not in the same class. Public transport amounts to one tram line each and some buses. Hotel space would have been a big issue, and building wouldn't have been significantly easier (the city centers are nearly as full and planning regulations just as stupid). % of the population fluent in a second language is much smaller, and those cities are just not used to handling a huge influx of tourists the way London is. (almost) no one goes on a holiday specifically to visit Birmingham or Manchester, because they just don't have the museums, galleries, monuments and attractions that London has. I lived in the north (Sheffield) for many years and used to think it was unfair how much focus London got. Having actually lived and worked in London for three years though, I actually understand what 'global city' means. Companies (including mine) pay twice the salaries and triple the office space costs not for the hell of it, but because access to world-class talent and infrastructure is worth it.

The IOC's mandate (when selecting host cities) is to put on the best games possible, not to contribute to regional development or ad-hoc urban renewal.
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Irbis wrote:
Zaune wrote:Actually, this one's probably true as well; I bet David Cameron had never actually met a black person until Obama made his first official visit.
Le pardon? :|

I met several black shopkeepers in small rural village in Northern Scotland, London, by comparison, is the most fucking multi-ethnic city in Europe and maybe in the world. How one goes not meeting non-whites there?
I'd have to agreee with this it seems hard to imagine a situation where one would never meet a person of another race while holding a major public office in a capital of any western or northen europe capital. It seems nearly impossible when talking about a major public office in London or Paris (as UK and France used to be major colonial powers and still have signifigant connection to their former colonies).
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At Downing Street: 'Looking out through No 10's backside'

There are two things you should know before you "look out of the backside of 10 Downing Street", as Mitt Romney did on Thursday.

Firstly, in Britain, "backside" means "ass". As in the part of the body. Secondly, "10 Downing Street" is often used in political reporting as a synonym for a press spokesman for the prime minister, in the same way as "the White House" can say things or have opinions.

Red-face rating: 2/10. A minor linguistic misunderstanding.
Have to give him that one, I guess; it does apparently have an innocuous meaning in certain regions of the US.
No. Backside means ass pretty much everywhere in the english speaking world. You would say looking out the back of 10 Downing Street, or looking through the rear window or something like that.
Thing is, back side is perfectly normal to say to refer to the back side of a building, so it's really just an issue of spelling. Write backside and you've got a completely different connotation, one which is more humorous and therefore gets printed over the more sensible interpretation.
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Irbis wrote:
Zaune wrote:Actually, this one's probably true as well; I bet David Cameron had never actually met a black person until Obama made his first official visit.
Le pardon? :|

I met several black shopkeepers in small rural village in Northern Scotland, London, by comparison, is the most fucking multi-ethnic city in Europe and maybe in the world. How one goes not meeting non-whites there?
He was making a snide insinuation based on Cameron's privileged Etonian/Oxbridge upbringing.

Failing of course to realise that a not insignificant proportion of African/Middle Eastern political elites are also proud products of the British private school system....
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White Haven wrote:The obvious rejoinder of 'well don't put the fucking games in London, then' comes to mind. England is a country, not a city-state. That is sort of the obvious fix to 'fitting the games in the middle of London is hard.'
There are also, of course, advantages to holding the games in a well developed capital city with a decent transport system and enough accommodation/restaurants/sightseeing/shopping to spare. From an environmental point of view, these will probably be one of the most successful games ever.

What Romney said is entirely impolite but it has nothing to do with the fact that the games are being held in a built up city - all games need adequate security and could be disrupted by immigration staff throwing their toys out the pram. To that end, Cameron's response didn't actually address the issues Romney raised at all.
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