ST vs. DS1

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-09 06:42am

AdmiralKanos wrote:That omission has been rectified.

*sigh of relief*

Good to know the planet-eating admin is on duty

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-09 07:15am

Vympel wrote:
AdmiralKanos wrote:That omission has been rectified.
*sigh of relief*

Good to know the planet-eating admin is on duty

GIANT MECHA? WHERE?
*Readies M1E38A2 Death Star heavy anti fortress repulser tank*

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-03-09 09:56am

Galaxy wrote:Where the hell do you get trek torps not being able to turn?

Strawman. They just can't turn fast enough.

And is everyone forgetting the peregrine fighters that the feds have? A few dozen Peregrines would beat the shit outta the entire death star fighter compliment.
This is just another bias debate. Have fun lying to yourselves.

Of course, 24 fighters beating 10 000 is perfectly logical!

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-03-09 12:37pm

Galaxy wrote:Where the hell do you get trek torps not being able to turn? And is everyone forgetting the peregrine fighters that the feds have? A few dozen Peregrines would beat the shit outta the entire death star fighter compliment.
This is just another bias debate. Have fun lying to yourselves.

Prove that 24 Peregrin class fighters can beat even a Wing of Ties. I challenge you to provide numbers to back up your claims before you make them you stupid bastard.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-03-09 01:58pm

Galaxy wrote: I'm not a darkstar lacky, but he must be a jolly good fellow if you people don't like him.

How dare you sir!

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-03-10 02:54am

Galaxy wrote:yeah i know... the death star has 7,000 tie fighters. I know about everything you know people. Except i'm not bias or brainwashed.

Really? Care to explain WHY "a few dozen Peregrines would beat the shit outta the entire death star fighter compliment"?
A duck calling itself a pheonix sure as hell doesn't make it one, just as people can declare that they are "not biased or brainwashed" all they want, but if the rest of their words and actions are contrary to their claims...

I'm not a darkstar lacky, but he must be a jolly good fellow if you people don't like him.

Oh, yes, he really is a jolly good fellow... If "jolly good fellow" is short for someone who suffers from a massive case of inferiority complex, as well as compulsive lying, and paranoid projection.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » 2003-03-10 03:22pm

Galaxy wrote:This is just another bias debate. Have fun lying to yourselves.

I am stealing this line for my sig.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-03-10 04:30pm

Photon torpedoes have never demonstrated the capability to perform a 72,000 g turn. Runabouts would never make it into the trench; they'd be shot down by either surface turbolasers or TIE fighters, seeing as how their maneuverability is poor. Any capital ships would be obliterated by heavy turbolaser fire or the superlaser, if the gunners are so inclined.

Tohonaca · Post by **Tohonaca** » 2003-03-10 07:26pm

Durandal wrote:Photon torpedoes have never demonstrated the capability to perform a 72,000 g turn. Runabouts would never make it into the trench; they'd be shot down by either surface turbolasers or TIE fighters, seeing as how their maneuverability is poor. Any capital ships would be obliterated by heavy turbolaser fire or the superlaser, if the gunners are so inclined.

Well said. And according to my copy of star wars rebellion the death star has 24 squadrons of tie fighters and a squadron is 12 fighters each so that's more than enough to destroy any federation fighters. Even if the feds brought capital ships the turbolaser would get them. There weapons probably couldn't even hit the ties.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-10 10:37pm

Tohonaca wrote:

Well said. And according to my copy of star wars rebellion the death star has 24 squadrons of tie fighters and a squadron is 12 fighters each so that's more than enough to destroy any federation fighters. Even if the feds brought capital ships the turbolaser would get them.

Capital ships would be dead, for sure.

There weapons probably couldn't even hit the ties.

Meh- I'm inclined to think that the Phasers would probably get a few TIEs- after all we've seen them fire multiple blasts from their various phaser strips a few times (once in TNG, and in Nemesis.

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2003-03-11 05:20am

First i'm honored that someone would quote me cuz it suits you just fine.

Also i would gladly bitch slap anyone that thinks a tie fighter is a match for a peregrine. Of course i never specified the 24 number. Some reason you interpret my claims for me. Maybe when i feel like it i'll make more precise claims and explain.

Thanks to the one that changed my title dammit. I was looking forward to being a padawan learner.

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2003-03-11 05:23am

I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-03-11 05:27am

Galaxy wrote:I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?

READ-THE-FUCKING-WEBSITE!

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-03-11 05:28am

Galaxy wrote:First i'm honored that someone would quote me cuz it suits you just fine.

Also i would gladly bitch slap anyone that thinks a tie fighter is a match for a peregrine. Of course i never specified the 24 number. Some reason you interpret my claims for me. Maybe when i feel like it i'll make more precise claims and explain.

Thanks to the one that changed my title dammit. I was looking forward to being a padawan learner.

You deserved the title asshole.

Live with it bitch.

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-03-11 05:29am

Galaxy wrote:First i'm honored that someone would quote me cuz it suits you just fine.

Also i would gladly bitch slap anyone that thinks a tie fighter is a match for a peregrine. Of course i never specified the 24 number. Some reason you interpret my claims for me. Maybe when i feel like it i'll make more precise claims and explain.

Thanks to the one that changed my title dammit. I was looking forward to being a padawan learner.

Start by justifying your idea that the Peregrine is a superior fighter. When you say a "few dozen," the absolute max is 48, which is not much of an improvement.

As for how to compute G forces in turns, well, you need an estimate of the object's speed versus its rate of turn. It is a calculation based on visual calculation.

Formulas for this kind of work...
http://users.otenet.gr/%7Eqksilver/main ... o/aero.htm

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2003-03-11 05:56am

Tell me why 4 is the highest number to be regarded as a few.

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-03-11 06:45am

Galaxy wrote:Tell me why 4 is the highest number to be regarded as a few.

It is generally the highest in the commonly acceptable usage AFAIK. I guess maybe you could stretch it to five. But bring it to six, and you would be more appropriately using "wing" (in this context) or "half-dozen."

You are better off arguing that maybe you meant 24 plane squadrons (also typically about the highest a "squadron" of planes can go in common usage IIRC.) That boosts it up to 96

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-03-11 08:24am

Galaxy wrote:First i'm honored that someone would quote me cuz it suits you just fine.

Also i would gladly bitch slap anyone that thinks a tie fighter is a match for a peregrine

Bring it on.

Of course i never specified the 24 number. Some reason you interpret my claims for me. Maybe when i feel like it i'll make more precise claims and explain.

You can't have meant more than ten, which is only 120.

Thanks to the one that changed my title dammit. I was looking forward to being a padawan learner.

You shouldn't have been an idiot.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-03-11 08:26am

Galaxy wrote:I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tec ... pedo2.html

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-03-11 09:43am

Galaxy wrote:I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?

Physics.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-11 09:56am

Durandal wrote:
Galaxy wrote:I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?
Physics.

*tssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*

Ouch!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-11 10:29am

yes,

Couple: 2
Few: 3-4
Some: 4+
Many: >10-100

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-03-11 03:03pm

I thought the proton torpedo was supposed to traverse the exhaust port all the way to the reactor core, not just get into the hole and explode. Am I wrong? I don't see a photon torpedo doing that...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-03-11 03:11pm

Galaxy wrote:VI'd?
i dunno bout that but my manners certainly aren't any worse than yours

[galaxy]You're all a bunch of meanies! I am a man too! I go pee pee standing up![/galaxy]

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-03-11 03:19pm

Galaxy wrote:First i'm honored that someone would quote me cuz it suits you just fine.

Also i would gladly bitch slap anyone that thinks a tie fighter is a match for a peregrine. Of course i never specified the 24 number. Some reason you interpret my claims for me. Maybe when i feel like it i'll make more precise claims and explain.

Thanks to the one that changed my title dammit. I was looking forward to being a padawan learner.

Galaxy wrote:I'm curious about that 72,000g turn. What method of imagination was used to get that?

I got something that can beat the crap of your Peregrine fighters. In fact I'm going to test it on you first...

SPLAT!

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