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MOSCOW (AP) — Three punk rock-style activists who briefly took over a cathedral in a raucous prayer for deliverance from Vladimir Putin were sentenced to two years in prison for hooliganism on Friday, a decision that drew protests around the world as it highlighted the Russian president's intensifying crackdown on dissent.

Protesters from Moscow to New York and musicians including Madonna and Paul McCartney condemned the prosecution of the three women, members of a band called Pussy Riot. Several countries, including the U.S., and even some Kremlin loyalists decried the verdict.

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 22, Maria Alekhina, 24, and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 30, were arrested in March after performing a "punk prayer" in Christ the Savior Cathedral, dancing and high-kicking as they called on the Virgin Mary to save Russia from Putin, who was elected to a third term as Russia's president two weeks later.

Judge Marina Syrova ruled Friday that the band members had "committed hooliganism driven by religious hatred." She rejected the women's arguments that they were protesting the Russian Orthodox Church's support for Putin and didn't intend to offend religious believers.

Putin himself had said the band members shouldn't be judged too harshly, creating expectations that they could be sentenced to time served and freed in the courtroom. This, however, would have left the impression that Putin had bowed to public pressure, something he has resisted throughout his 12 years in power.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Putin couldn't intervene in the judicial process and refused to comment on the sentence.

When the sentence was announced, shouts of "down with the police state" rose from a crowd of hundreds of Pussy Riot supporters outside the courtroom. More than 50 people were detained, including former world chess champion Garry Kasparov, who said police beat him.

Protesters donned the colorful balaclavas that have become a symbol of the band in many European and U.S. cities, though no single protest outside Moscow drew more than a few hundred people.

In Kiev, Ukraine, four women, one of whom was topless, used a chainsaw to cut down a cross. About 40 protesters gathered in New York held up banners that read: "We are all hooligans."

The crowd in Moscow included many of the prominent writers, journalists and opposition partisans who spearheaded the mass protests that shook the city over the winter and spring. Pussy Riot was an obscure band of activists for much of that time, and some fellow opponents of Putin disapproved of their tactics, but they rallied to the group's defense after the March arrests.

For three hours as the judge read the verdict, the defendants stood in handcuffs in a glass cage in the courtroom, the same one where oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, another Putin opponent, was convicted two years ago.

The three women smiled sadly as the judge recounted testimony of prosecution witnesses accusing them of sacrilege and "devilish dances" in the church and said that their feminist views made them hate the Orthodox religion.

Tolokonnikova laughed out loud when the judge read the testimony of a psychologist who said that her "active stance on social issues" was an anomaly.

The three women remained calm and kept smiling after the judge announced the sentence. Someone in the courtroom shouted "Shame!" They waved at relatives from behind the glass.

The charges carried a maximum penalty of seven years in prison, though prosecutors had asked for a three-year sentence.

Popular Russian author Boris Akunin, a supporter of Pussy Riot who was outside the courthouse, said Putin "has doomed himself to another year and a half of international shame and humiliation."

"The whole thing is bad because it's yet another step toward the escalation of tensions within society. And the government is absolutely to blame," he said.

Defense lawyers said they would appeal but had little hope that the verdict would be overturned. "This verdict is the result of a political decision in the Kremlin, made by Vladimir Putin," said Mark Feygin.

He said the women would not ask for a pardon from Putin. "They will not beg and humiliate themselves before such a bastard," he said.

Another sign of the defendants' resolve came in a new song the band released Friday on the Internet: "Putin Is Lighting the Fires of Revolution."

Samutsevich's father said he had met with his daughter before the court session and she was prepared for a prison sentence. "We tried to comfort her," said Stanislav Samutsevich.

Amnesty International, which has called the women prisoners of conscience, said the court ruling "shows that the Russian authorities will stop at no end to suppress dissent and stifle civil society."

Governments including the United States, Britain, France and Germany denounced the sentences as disproportionate.

President Barack Obama was disappointed by the decision, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said. "While we understand the group's behavior was offensive to some, we have serious concerns about the way that these young women have been treated by the Russian judicial system," he said.

Further controversy was stirred up by the detention of Kasparov, now one of Putin's fiercest critics. He said he was beaten by the police who detained him, but police claimed that he bit an officer's finger. After his release, Kasparov tweeted that he was going to an emergency room "to check my injuries and to prove that I am not drunk and haven't bitten anyone."

The Pussy Riot case has helped to energize the opposition. Protest leader Alexei Navalny condemned the verdict as a "cynical mockery of justice" and said the opposition would step up its protests.

Even some Kremlin loyalists strongly criticized the verdict. Former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin said it has dealt "yet another blow to the court system and citizens' trust in it."

"The country's image and its attractiveness in the eyes of investors have suffered an enormous damage," he said.

Mikhail Fedotov, the head of a presidential advisory council on human rights, voiced hope that the sentence will be repealed or at least softened. Mikhail Barshchevsky, a lawyer who represents the Cabinet in high courts, said that the verdict had no basis in Russian criminal law.

The Pussy Riot case has underlined the vast influence of the Russian Orthodox Church. Although church and state are formally separate, the church identifies itself as the heart of Russian national identity and critics say its strength effectively makes it a quasi-state entity. Some Orthodox groups and many believers had urged strong punishment for an action they consider blasphemous.

The head of the church, Patriarch Kirill, has made no secret of his strong support for Putin, praising his leadership as "God's miracle," and he described the punk performance as part of an assault by "enemy forces" on the church. He avoided talking to journalists Friday as he left Warsaw's Royal Castle following a ceremony in which he and the head of Poland's Catholic Church called for mutual forgiveness and reconciliation between the churches.

The Orthodox Church said in a statement after the verdict that the band's stunt was a "sacrilege" and a "reflection of rude animosity toward millions of people and their feelings." It also asked the authorities to "show clemency toward the convicted in the hope that they will refrain from new sacrilegious actions."

A handful of Orthodox activists joined the crowd outside the courthouse. "I'm glad they were punished like criminals and didn't get away with it," said Dmitry Tsorionov, holding a Bible. "They committed a grave crime and nobody should do it again."

The case comes in the wake of several recently passed laws cracking down on opposition, including one that raised the fine for taking part in an unauthorized demonstrations by 150 times to 300,000 rubles (about $9,000).

Another measure requires non-governmental organizations that both engage in vaguely defined "political activity" and receive funding from abroad to register as "foreign agents." Putin has accused foreign countries of feeding much of the dissent in Russia.

Nataliya Vasilyeva, Lynn Berry, Mansur Mirovalev and Jim Heintz contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
For those wondering, here is the heinous crime that got them that sentence:



Apparently, this was a violent attack and defilement of a church, and not a political action (despite their chanting "Mother of God, drive Putin away!").

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That's right folks, in "secular Russia" you can get 2 years of prison for saying "holy shit" out loud in a temple. And during the court proceedings the prosecution would appeal to the proceedings of Council in Trullo. Year 692.

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For those wondering, here is the heinous crime that got them that sentence:
2 years work camp for a crime against good taste. Talk about disproportionate
fgalkin wrote:
Apparently, this was a violent attack and defilement of a church, and not a political action (despite their chanting "Mother of God, drive Putin away!").

Have a very nice day.
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Nevermind that the church urged people to vote for Putin during the latest democratic elections.

Putin is such a manly president for feeling treatened enough by these 3 girls.
Stas Bush wrote:That's right folks, in "secular Russia" you can get 2 years of prison for saying "holy shit" out loud in a temple. And during the court proceedings the prosecution would appeal to the proceedings of Council in Trullo. Year 692.

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It's rather obvious it's a political trial under the veil that religious people got their feelings hurt rather then admitting you can't critize the Great Leader in Russia anymore.
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What's really fucking sad is that the polls in Russia indicate mostly no one gives a fuck about these girls. They're on the church's side. :banghead:
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I saw one saying something like 6% of Russians supported them.
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First they came for the pussy rioters, but because I was not a pussy rioter I did not speak up...

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Four girls, wautd, four. Putin wouldn't be afraid of THREE girls unless one was Hillary Clinton.

So singing political songs in a church is more reprehensible than penis drawings on a drawbridge?

Wow.
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Stas Bush wrote:That's right folks, in "secular Russia" you can get 2 years of prison for saying "holy shit" out loud in a temple. And during the court proceedings the prosecution would appeal to the proceedings of Council in Trullo. Year 692.

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Well it was more of an excuse to jail critics of Putin than any real fear of blasphemy.
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General Mung Beans wrote:Well it was more of an excuse to jail critics of Putin than any real fear of blasphemy.
Critics of Putin? Seriously? Bullshit. I was one. You know... This is a fusion of the Church and State, and it is quite clear in this istance that without serious pressure from the Orthodox Church no sane court would read excepts from the fucking Council in Trullo. That's obvious.

Because that's Saudi Arabia or Turkey level-nonsense, essentially a Christian version of the Sharia.
wautd wrote:It's rather obvious it's a political trial under the veil that religious people got their feelings hurt rather then admitting you can't critize the Great Leader in Russia anymore.
Religious people openly said the girls have to be maimed, killed or "sent to a mosque where muslims will take care of them", or something along these lines too, like "we should be more like muslims, they wouldn't then walk out of the temple alive".

Religious people got butthurt. They also got batshit crazy about it.
Vympel wrote:What's really fucking sad is that the polls in Russia indicate mostly no one gives a fuck about these girls. They're on the church's side. :banghead:
Because Russia isn't the Soviet Union. It's a giant Turkmenistan, only slightly more opulent and slightly less repressive. A Dark Age regime which has nothing to do with modernity.
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Was not Russia officialy atheist for nearly 90 years under communism ? How did religon return to being such a major force in a mere few years ?
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Sarevok wrote:Was not Russia officialy atheist for nearly 90 years under communism ? How did religon return to being such a major force in a mere few years ?
Russia may still have more atheists than, say, Poland, but religion made its way using the circumstances. One key to power was the collapse of the official ideology (which the Church of course sought to fill with nationalism and black-shirt antisemitism), the other key to power was money. And the Church got lots of it, it controls banks, businesses, it has captured (with official permission) key areas in cities to build new temples or rebuid old ones. Not to forget the fact that temple-building is often financed from public funds.

And it took the Church 20 (maybe even 25-30, considering the late-Soviet religious renaissance of sorts) years to get where it is now. The time that passed from its absolute low point in the 1960s is significant.
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It is sad, seeing the Russian government flaunting their inferiority complex in public.
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Omeganian wrote:It is sad, seeing the Russian government flaunting their inferiority complex in public.
I don't think the government cares. I mean, just another bunch of people thrown behind bars for flimsy reasons, this time smacking of blasphemy trials? Even the media aren't sure about how this story goes, and hardly anyone understands that they were trying to stage a public performance in the main temple of the Orthodox Church. Outside of Russia that story isn't well-known enough, despite some celebrity voices speaking out against the indictment.
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Vympel wrote:What's really fucking sad is that the polls in Russia indicate mostly no one gives a fuck about these girls. They're on the church's side. :banghead:
Flagg wrote:I saw one saying something like 6% of Russians supported them.
Odd. Isn't Putin losing his popularity massively with him getting booed in public, leftists and fascists demonstrating against him in the streets, etc? I remember hearing of the penis drawing on the bridge facing the NKVD KGB FSB among a lot of other things artists are doing to make fun of him...and I am assuming the dislike is increasing due to that. Or it's just those who dont like him being more vocal about it.
Stas Bush wrote:You know... This is a fusion of the Church and State, and it is quite clear in this istance that without serious pressure from the Orthodox Church no sane court would read excepts from the fucking Council in Trullo. That's obvious.

Because that's Saudi Arabia or Turkey level-nonsense, essentially a Christian version of the Sharia.

Religious people openly said the girls have to be maimed, killed or "sent to a mosque where muslims will take care of them", or something along these lines too, like "we should be more like muslims, they wouldn't then walk out of the temple alive".

Religious people got butthurt. They also got batshit crazy about it.

Because Russia isn't the Soviet Union. It's a giant Turkmenistan, only slightly more opulent and slightly less repressive. A Dark Age regime which has nothing to do with modernity.
From what I remember, pretty much most of the Soviet-era campaigns against the Orthodox church were PRECISELY due to this sort of thing in former Czarist Russia. How much was the anti-clerical actions of the Soviet Union genuine popular support vs. more artifically done by the Soviet state? I remember hearing that some of those actions were more of mob actions.

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Flagg wrote:I saw one saying something like 6% of Russians supported them.
Odd. Isn't Putin losing his popularity massively with him getting booed in public, leftists and fascists demonstrating against him in the streets, etc?
... :roll:

Have you read what you wrote? A lot of opposition, especially these right wingers and fascists would change the verdict to firing squad, they won't protest prison, nope.
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Saxtonite wrote:Odd. Isn't Putin losing his popularity massively with him getting booed in public, leftists and fascists demonstrating against him in the streets, etc? I remember hearing of the penis drawing on the bridge facing the FSB among a lot of other things artists are doing to make fun of him...and I am assuming the dislike is increasing due to that. Or it's just those who dont like him being more vocal about it.
Some youngsters fooling around and drawing a penis on a bridge facing the FSB isn't really going to do shit. Most people think they're a bunch of idiots, as for Putin, his support is still quite strong, though certainly nothing like say 5 years ago. Majority of provincials will support his "stability" and of course so would every oligarch in the nation.
Saxtonite wrote:From what I remember, pretty much most of the Soviet-era campaigns against the Orthodox church were PRECISELY due to this sort of thing in former Czarist Russia. How much was the anti-clerical actions of the Soviet Union genuine popular support vs. more artifically done by the Soviet state? I remember hearing that some of those actions were more of mob actions.
Some of it was popular action or just mobs acting like vigilantes (especially during the Revolution itself), later on that was a specific and well-coordinated state campaign. Which in the 1930s meant everyone and his dog rallied behind it. In the 1920s, on the other hand, secularization wasn't well-coordinated and it was mostly local initiative. Peasants usually supported the Church while city-dwellers opposed it.

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Still weirded out seeing those women placed in thick glass or steel bar cages during the proceedings, as if they were Agent Evelyn Salt, and needed something to keep them from escaping with their bare fists.
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Haruko wrote:Still weirded out seeing those women placed in thick glass or steel bar cages during the proceedings, as if they were Agent Evelyn Salt, and needed something to keep them from escaping with their bare fists.
Standard operating procedure in Russian courts- all defendants are placed in cages. Whether it's glass or metal depends on the design of the courtroom.

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