US Embassies, Consulates Attacked.

[folti78]

Yes, because that is so equivalent to murder of an accredited ambassador. I am sorry, but that somehow fails to impress me as an argument, particularly when the idea of sanctity of the lives of emissaries dates back to Hammurabi (or possibly before Sargon), and was merely codified at Vienna.

Oh, then the same punishment the Chinese meted out to the US after the US bombed its embassy in Belgrade. What do you think is going to happen? Is the US going to slaughter another 30.000 brown people in another futile invasion?

Anybody can see what is going to happen. There will be a proportionate response if targets can be found. If not, then that is that.

Not to mention that overreacting will weaken the current governments not too strong positions.

[Spekio]

I'm getting a little pissed off at the creator of this film, who has apparently publically stated he wanted to make this film controversial and provocative. I wonder if he's happy people have died over his work?

He's in hiding now, of course.

HOW DARE HE PORTRAY HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD?

Doesn't he knows the prophet is dear to the Muslims? They have the right to attack people for attacking their religion of peace. We should totally blame the filmmaker and not the religious fanatics. [/sarcasm]

[Lord MJ]

It didn't take long for the Romney campaign to start blaming Obama.

http://www.businessinsider.com/libya-eg ... ama-2012-9

Mitt Romney Slams Obama For 'Sympathizing' With Libya And Egypt Attackers, Drawing A 'Shocked' Rebuke
Brett LoGiurato | Sep. 12, 2012, 12:14 AM | 7,195 | 65

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Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney released a statement Tuesday night condemning the Obama administration's response to attacks on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya, the latter of which left one American dead.

Here's Romney's statement:

“I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Romney's statement later drew a stern rebuke from the Obama campaign, which said it was "shocked."

“We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack," spokesman Ben LaBolt said in a statement.

Protestors in Egypt and Libya attacked U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya on Tuesday, scaling the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and tearing down its American flag over an online film that was considered offensive to Muslims.

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo released a statement — which came before the protests began — apologizing for the film.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the filmmaker, an Israeli-American real-estate developer, called Islam a "cancer" in an interview.

Here's the U.S. Embassy's statement:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy.

The Obama administration, meanwhile, moved to distance itself from the Embassy's statement, Politico's Byron Tau reported:

"The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," an administration official told Politico.

Romney, though, asserted that the president was sympathizing with the attackers.

Romney's campaign originally embargoed the statement's release for midnight Wednesday, when the calendar turned past Sept. 11. Fifteen minutes after sending out the embargoed statement to reporters, the campaign lifted the embargo.

In an earlier speech to the National Guard in Nevada, Romney had emphasized refraining from political gamesmanship on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The Embassy seems to be in the process of retracting its statement after originally backing it. It sent out this tweet Tuesday night, but later deleted it:

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So embassy, criticizes the film before the protests began, and Romney tries to depict Obama as apologizing for America. All so he can show he is superior to Obama on foreign policy? Clever move. But classic lying Romney.

[mr friendly guy]

So is there anywhere we can view this controversial film legally? I got to see this for myself.

[Skywalker_T-65]

According to the link I posted back on page one, part of the video is on you-tube apparently. I don't think they had a link to it though...and it might have been taken down by now.

[mr friendly guy]

http://news.yahoo.com/anti-islam-film-s ... 25564.html

Yes I know...its Yahoo. That being said, apparently two Americans were shot in Libya...one died from their wounds.

Here is a comment from your link.

On 9-11, after tens of thousands of American citizens were murdered in the name of Mohammad and his religion, did the American people attack or burn down the embassies of any Muslim country?...no, we did not.
And yet, these animals attack our embassies and kill innocent people because of a PRIVATE film, not made or sanctioned by our government or any representative of our country, that hasn't even been shown in any movie theater.
You're showing me all I need to know about Islam. I want nothing to do with your bloodthirsty god, or your ditchwater prophet.

Seriously. If this wasn't happening in real life it would be comedy gold.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Fucking barbarians (specifying Romney, and those directly responsible for the attacks)

What the fuck Romney? I give Bush a lot of shit, but one thing I will give him credit for is not using the 9/11 attacks for immediate partisan game by way of attacking his detractors for being soft on terror. At least not on the day of the attack. You... you sunk to a new low. The god damn bodies had not even cooled you opportunistic vulture-scion.

[Simon_Jester]

Let us be fair, he is not the scion of vultures, his father was a pretty decent fellow by all accounts.

He's not so much a self-made man, but he is a self-made vulture.

[Skywalker_T-65]

http://news.yahoo.com/anti-islam-film-s ... 25564.html

Yes I know...its Yahoo. That being said, apparently two Americans were shot in Libya...one died from their wounds.

Here is a comment from your link.

On 9-11, after tens of thousands of American citizens were murdered in the name of Mohammad and his religion, did the American people attack or burn down the embassies of any Muslim country?...no, we did not.
And yet, these animals attack our embassies and kill innocent people because of a PRIVATE film, not made or sanctioned by our government or any representative of our country, that hasn't even been shown in any movie theater.
You're showing me all I need to know about Islam. I want nothing to do with your bloodthirsty god, or your ditchwater prophet.

Seriously. If this wasn't happening in real life it would be comedy gold.

And that's why I don't read Yahoo comments.

Seriously, some of the stuff that comes out of those idiots mouths...I mean really 'tens of thousands of Americans dead'?

On subject...Romney taking advantage of this to slander Obama? What else is new (and that is a sad commentary on American politics if there ever was one).

[Alyrium Denryle]

Let us be fair, he is not the scion of vultures, his father was a pretty decent fellow by all accounts.

He's not so much a self-made man, but he is a self-made vulture.

Yeah, but when you call someone a son of a bitch you are not necessarily saying anything about their mother.

[Lord MJ]

There's method to his madness. Romney has been considered weak on foreign policy and national defense. So now this is an opportunity for him to look superior on foreign policy.

[Alyrium Denryle]

There's method to his madness. Romney has been considered weak on foreign policy and national defense. So now this is an opportunity for him to look superior on foreign policy.

Obama: I captured Osama. Oh, and by the way, I have sent in seal teams to rendition the clerics responsible for inciting violence in Libya and Egypt.

That is the advantage of being an incumbent president. Well, one of them.

[TimothyC]

So is there anywhere we can view this controversial film legally? I got to see this for myself.

Look up "Muhammad Movie Trailer" on youtube.

It is offensive as hell - the production was so cheap it's not funny.

[Pelranius]

If that guy producing the movie really did receive $5 million, I wonder where the money actually went?!

Could whatever Al Qaeda elements in Benghazi have used the protest as a sort of cover to attack the consulate?

[Mr Bean]

On subject...Romney taking advantage of this to slander Obama? What else is new (and that is a sad commentary on American politics if there ever was one).

This is unprecedented, just like campaigning during the other parties convention. Romney is getting slammed by lots of talking heads for A. Making a false Claim. B. Being blatantly political about a situation as it is still unfolding which is unprecedented. We typically take a week here in America to start the attacks after a disaster with only ongoing disasters getting recriminations.

[Losonti Tokash]

Sean Smith was a husband and father of two who had worked for the state department for ten years, doing what he believed in and trying to make the world a little bit better, who was murdered along with several others by a bunch of fuckwits for the egregious crime of being from the same country as some asshole.

There's basically zero chance any of the people responsible will ever be brought to justice, but hopefully people can honor the service and memories of people like Smith and try to ensure nothing like this happens again.

[Lord MJ]

I don't think Romney cares about any of that, so long as his poll numbers on foreign policy goes up, and Obama's post convention bounce is blunted. If he manages to get himself to the White House that would prove his critics wrong in his mind.

[Mr Bean]

I don't think Romney cares about any of that, so long as his poll numbers on foreign policy goes up, and Obama's post convention bounce is blunted. If he manages to get himself to the White House that would prove his critics wrong in his mind.

The problem with that thinking is that unless he's hired total incompetence his political advisers should have been fainting at the thought of what he did. The only people such a statement appeals to is his base and not even all of his base as this pisses off even loyal veterans. The only people he's appealing to are the twenty percent Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim and I'm not a racist I swear.

[Skywalker_T-65]

Which was what I meant...Romney will take ANY chance to slander Obama. Even if anyone with half a brain knows that you SHOULDN'T be using a still developing case, where people DIED to your advantage.

[Lord MJ]

Probably need a new thread about this, but now Benjamin Netanyahu is starting to strike out against the Obama admin because of Iran's nuclear program. It could very well be that Obama will be hammered in the foreign policy front over the next few weeks.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Demand the Transitional National Council deal with the problem, not us, because it was their responsibility to prevent the attack in the first place. Stiffly hold them accountable for punishing the perpetrators (and finding them).

[Pelranius]

Looks like terrorism.

[Updated at 12:51 p.m. ET] A London think tank with strong ties to Libya speculated Wednesday that Stevens was actually the victim of a targeted al Qaeda revenge attack.

The assault "came to avenge the death of Abu Yaya al-Libi, al Qaeda's second in command killed a few months ago," the think tank Quilliam said Wednesday. It was "the work of roughly 20 militants, prepared for a military assault," the think tank said, noting that rocket-propelled grenade launchers do not normally appear at peaceful protests, and that there were no other protests against the film elsewhere in Libya.

The planned attack came in two waves, one which prompted U.S. officials to leave the consulate for a secure location. The second wave was directed at the place of retreat, Quilliam said, citing unnamed sources on the ground in Benghazi and abroad.

[Updated at 12:11 p.m. ET] Tuesday's attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was planned in advance, and the attackers used the protest outside the consulate as a diversion, U.S. sources told CNN Wednesday.

The sources could not say whether the attackers instigated the protest or merely took advantage of it. The sources do not believe Ambassador Chris Stevens was specifically targeted.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/12/u- ... ness-says/

[amigocabal]

I'm getting a little pissed off at the creator of this film, who has apparently publically stated he wanted to make this film controversial and provocative. I wonder if he's happy people have died over his work?

He is not the problem. Even when nobody does anything to provoke them, they still work themselves up into a frenzy by doing things like framing children for burning the Koran. The problem is the people whose morality is so fucked up that a lack of respect given to a historical figure, anywhere in the world, is grounds to go on a killing spree.

It is important to remember that rape provokes these people to kill the victims.
The last time civilized people dealt with people of such "morals" was from 1939-1945.

Doesn't he knows the prophet is dear to the Muslims? They have the right to attack people for attacking their religion of peace.

Just as much as rapists have a right to rape girls who arouse them.

[Pelranius]

And apparently there is no Sam Bacile what so ever. And I'm stretching for reasons why the Copts/Evangelicals would bother with inventing a Jewish connection...

http://gawker.com/5942651/the-filmmaker ... is-a-ghost

Remember that dickhead who planted (all right, allegedly) those burned Quran pages into the bag of that Christian Pakistani girl?

[Spekio]

Doesn't he knows the prophet is dear to the Muslims? They have the right to attack people for attacking their religion of peace.

Just as much as rapists have a right to rape girls who arouse them.

Are you serious? Did you not perceive the sarcarsm on my previous post, as exemplified by the "[/sarcasm]"? Was it not obvious that I was mocking Broomstick?