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Ancient Bones found during Houston, TX Road Construction

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Well, Greater Houston Area anyway:

I don't know if this is news worthy or if it's even been posted before. So do with it what you will.

This discovery was first found in 2011, but I never heard dick about it, and the remains could be 3,000 - 5,000 years-old. Of course, the Texas DoT was like "fuck this shit, we're building roads here." Grand Parkway (SH99), part of which is literally a stone's throw from my house, was originally intended to be another "loop" in Houston, akin to the 610, Beltway 8, and (sort of, but never completed) Highway 6 loops. Now it's really just going to end up being a massive sectional toll-road connecting 290 to US59 near Rosenberg. Even then, who knows what the fuck they'll end up doing with it.

Anyways, the interesting part is that they've found more:
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- There are new developments about a prehistoric discovery that's holding up construction of a section of the Grand Parkway. Experts say they could be on top of a priceless archaeological find, but they may be running out of time to find out.

As you can imagine, with a major road construction project stopped in its tracks, there is a lot of money on the line. The county historical commission and Texas Department of Transportation are in court over how to proceed with Section E of the Grand Parkway between I-10 and Highway 290.

The first discovery was made 11 months ago, revealed this summer when the state asked a court to approve the removal of some ancient human remains in the path of the Grand Parkway construction near Cypress Creek. Construction stopped and more investigation followed.

Here's what's now been uncovered so far: More bones, about 15 feet from the original site, located in what's believed to have been a burial shaft; stone tools; and darts from hunting spears.

But the big find is teeth from prehistoric bison, which could place date of the find from 9,000 to 20,000 years old.

At the oldest range, it could mean an archaeological breakthrough.

"This may, depending upon what the results show, could be the earliest instance of humans being in North America," said Harris County Attorney Vince Ryan.

The county attorney is representing the county's historical commission which is asking the court for more time to study the site.

It is not a request to halt Grand Parkway construction, just work around it for a while longer.

"It's not like this is one little piece. This is a much larger project, so they will be working in other areas," said Harris Co. Judge Ed Emmett.

And that work in other areas continues to move forward.

The county attorney is asking for a two-month extension of the archaeological digs. A judge will rule on that request later this week.
Bolded what I consider important parts. Texas DoT is trying to get everything removed so they can continue work. I'd rather them get their asses over to 99 South so the connection from 1093 to US59 stops being annoying as fuck. Oh yea, and also not pave over important historic finds.
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TheFeniX wrote:Well, Greater Houston Area anyway:

I don't know if this is news worthy or if it's even been posted before. So do with it what you will.

This discovery was first found in 2011, but I never heard dick about it, and the remains could be 3,000 - 5,000 years-old. Of course, the Texas DoT was like "fuck this shit, we're building roads here." Grand Parkway (SH99), part of which is literally a stone's throw from my house, was originally intended to be another "loop" in Houston, akin to the 610, Beltway 8, and (sort of, but never completed) Highway 6 loops. Now it's really just going to end up being a massive sectional toll-road connecting 290 to US59 near Rosenberg. Even then, who knows what the fuck they'll end up doing with it.

Anyways, the interesting part is that they've found more:
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- There are new developments about a prehistoric discovery that's holding up construction of a section of the Grand Parkway. Experts say they could be on top of a priceless archaeological find, but they may be running out of time to find out.

As you can imagine, with a major road construction project stopped in its tracks, there is a lot of money on the line. The county historical commission and Texas Department of Transportation are in court over how to proceed with Section E of the Grand Parkway between I-10 and Highway 290.

The first discovery was made 11 months ago, revealed this summer when the state asked a court to approve the removal of some ancient human remains in the path of the Grand Parkway construction near Cypress Creek. Construction stopped and more investigation followed.

Here's what's now been uncovered so far: More bones, about 15 feet from the original site, located in what's believed to have been a burial shaft; stone tools; and darts from hunting spears.

But the big find is teeth from prehistoric bison, which could place date of the find from 9,000 to 20,000 years old.

At the oldest range, it could mean an archaeological breakthrough.

"This may, depending upon what the results show, could be the earliest instance of humans being in North America," said Harris County Attorney Vince Ryan.

The county attorney is representing the county's historical commission which is asking the court for more time to study the site.

It is not a request to halt Grand Parkway construction, just work around it for a while longer.

"It's not like this is one little piece. This is a much larger project, so they will be working in other areas," said Harris Co. Judge Ed Emmett.

And that work in other areas continues to move forward.

The county attorney is asking for a two-month extension of the archaeological digs. A judge will rule on that request later this week.
Bolded what I consider important parts. Texas DoT is trying to get everything removed so they can continue work. I'd rather them get their asses over to 99 South so the connection from 1093 to US59 stops being annoying as fuck. Oh yea, and also not pave over important historic finds.
Fist: Wow, being from Texas myself I find this extremely cool, also the fact that they found Bison teeth that close to the gulf.

Second: Jesus their building another loop around Houston? Sam Houston Parkway wasn't even done yet when I moved up here to Chicago five years ago...

Ninja Edit: Holy crap, Dave Ward is still alive and with ABC 13?! Also is that guy with the snow white hair, and goes around from restaurant to restaurant like a health inspector still on as well?, I remember him being the only reason I'd watch the news with my Grandma...
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gigabytelord wrote:Second: Jesus their building another loop around Houston? Sam Houston Parkway wasn't even done yet when I moved up here to Chicago five years ago...
They just finished it going out to NE Houston like a year ago, if even. Grand Parkway started out as another loop, but it's really being used now to create a west-side connection between US59 and 290 (and everything in between such as 1093 and I-10), with possible expansion to Interstate 45.
SAMAS wrote:Zindler passed some few years back.
Yea, no more SLIME IN THE ICE-MACHINE goodness. Miss that guy.

Because Fuck History, we've got roads to build here. Just pave over important acheaological finds:
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A Harris County judge has just ruled that the Texas Department of Transportation can remove ancient human remains and continue construction of the Grand Parkway.

We told you on Tuesday how ancient artifacts have been found at the construction site in west Harris County, including stone tools and teeth from prehistoric bison. The artifacts could date back to between 9,000 and 20,000 years.

Archeologists asked for a two month delay so they could further explore that site, but the judge rejected that request.

The county attorney says he plans to file an appeal immediately.
I know 99 South (1093 to US59) is slated to become a toll-road. I'm pretty sure I-10 to 290 is supposed to be the same thing. So, it's totally not about the money. Kudos to the County Attourney for fighting this, even if it's possibly career suicide.
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