I ask for help in dissecting this because I'll be moving shortly, and won't have internet access for a few days where I'm going, so I'd like to wrap up my evisceration of him as swiftly as possible. The response I've just quickly written up is as follows:Moron wrote:It's quite simple, living human cells as a part of a larger organism are only units that make up the eukaryote. Human beings (at even the cellular stage) are the organism entire, with its entire genetic compliment and natural capacity to employ that genetic compliment to achieve all the biological functions we associate with the human species.
And the only part of said organism that matters in determining personhood is a functioning brain.Moron wrote:It's quite simple, living human cells as a part of a larger organism are only units that make up the eukaryote.
If personhood is dependent on being a complete organism then a person ceases to be a person when he has a kidney, tonsils, or foreskin removed. You can remove arms, legs and any number of parts from a person and it doesn't diminish his personhood so long as the brain is intact.Moron wrote:Human beings (at even the cellular stage) are the organism entire
Irrelevant. Nearly every cell in the human body has a complete genome.Moron wrote:with its entire genetic compliment
Capacity? This is no different from the "some day it will be an individual with thoughts and feelings" argument you took issue with. You are attributing characteristics to something that will only possess said characteristics down the road. My "capacity" to join the police force doesn't change the fact that I am not a police officer, and will not be treated as a part of the force until I actually join it.Moron wrote:and natural capacity to employ that genetic compliment to achieve all the biological functions we associate with the human species.
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Any advice, suggestions, criticisms or commentary would be greatly appreciated. Also, this guy is very confident that science supports his position, so if anyone knows of any resources to the contrary I would be happy to see them.