USA and NATO vs Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact 2003

Khemri · Post by **Khemri** » 2003-03-11 04:45pm

Assume for just a moment that the cold war is still going on and communism never fell. That the Soviet Union is still going and eart germany is still under the Iron Curtain. Also assume for a moment that the Soviet Union has decided to attack western germany for some reason. What would happen?

So it's the United States and NATO with every we may have had, had the cold war never stoped
vs

the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations with everything they may have had had the cold war never stoped.

Also no nukes.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-11 04:51pm

POKE:

Please see Red Storm Rising>>

Khemri · Post by **Khemri** » 2003-03-11 05:01pm

theski wrote:POKE: Please see Red Storm Rising>>

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That was written in 1985 and the only reason the Americans won was because the Russians had a fuel problem and we had an aircraft that doesn't even exsist.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-03-11 05:20pm

Khemri wrote:
theski wrote:POKE: :) Please see Red Storm Rising>>
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That was written in 1985 and the only reason the Americans won was because the Russians had a fuel problem and we had an aircraft that doesn't even exsist.

And the wonderful thing that occurs in sooooo many fucking books.

America wins by Deus Ex Machina in the last 5 pages. ALWAYS.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-11 05:21pm

Really its quite pointless to discuses. It was quite impossible for the Soviet Union and Warsaw pact to hold together for another decade. There economies would have totally collapsed no matter what, so we really can't make any calls on what forces they'd have available. At most the eastern bloc would disintegrate, but Russia and a few other republics in the Union might remain communist and bankrupt. They be hopelessly outgunned by NATO by 2003. The way things where going that was going to happen anyway.

Red Storm Rising is an okay book, but a load of utter crap in terms of realities. The individual battles could be fought the way there written. But they'd never happen that way. The Soviets planned for a three day war behind 320 tactical and theater nuclear strikes on West German. That's the only war they'd fight. They'd be no convoy attacks simply because they wouldn't matter in so short a war.