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Hard on the heels of the hell pit opener:

http://gawker.com/5949544/arkansas-stat ... for-blacks
Arkansas State Rep: Slavery ‘May Actually Have Been a Blessing in Disguise’ for Blacks
Louis Peitzman
We spend an awful lot of time condemning slavery, but have you ever stopped to think about the good it did?

No, because you're not a monster. Luckily, Republican State Representative Jon Hubbard of Arkansas has you covered. In his self-published book, Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative, he explains the bright side of slavery:

The institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.

Well, gosh, when you put it that way. Hubbard goes on to argue that a life of slavery would have been "likely much better" than a life back in Africa: "Knowing what we know today about life on the African continent, would an existence spent in slavery have been any crueler than a life spent in sub-Saharan Africa?"

As first discovered by Michael Cook of Talk Business, Hubbard's book is shockingly backwards for anyone — let alone a state representative. His worldview is grounded in centuries-old racism, including the stereotypes that blacks are lazy, unintelligent, and generally unproductive members of society.

Hubbard wonders if it will "ever become possible for black people in the United States of America to firmly establish themselves as inclusive and contributing members of society within this country." Does anyone want to tell him who the President of the United States is, or should we let him figure that one out on his own?

Even school integration was a bad thing, as blacks simply can't "learn to appreciate the value of a good education."

One of the stated purposes of school integration was to bring black students up to a level close to that of white students. But, to the great disappointment of everyone, the results of this theory worked exactly in reverse of its intended purpose, and instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students. To make matters worse the lack of discipline and ambition of black students soon became shared by their white classmates, and our educational system has been in a steady decline ever since.

Is your white student failing algebra? Chalk it up to desegregation, says Hubbard.

But wait, isn't there some way we can tie this into Nazi Germany? Of course there is. Hubbard believes the inaction of American Christians is the same as that of the German people who allowed Hitler to take control of the country.

American Christians are assuming a similar stance as did the citizens of Germany during Hitler's rise to power.

The delightful irony that Hubbard's views on race relations are not dissimilar to der Führer's seems to be lost on him. Perhaps someone should let him know.
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madd0ct0r wrote:The institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.
Well, their descendants would be rewarded with citizenship, so at least they did have that. I mean, I could say anti-Jewish sentiment in Eastern Europe was great for me personally because it lead to my family settling in America. But I'm sure my great-great-grandfather and his family didn't see it that way. And I wouldn't exactly sing praises to the people who forced that move.
But, to the great disappointment of everyone, the results of this theory worked exactly in reverse of its intended purpose, and instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students. To make matters worse the lack of discipline and ambition of black students soon became shared by their white classmates, and our educational system has been in a steady decline ever since.
I don't know where he got this (probably lies like most everything else). From what I've seen white education levels have only stagnated (not gone down) since about the early to mid-90s (well after integration). He also ignores issues such as "white-flight" where parents pull their kids out of diverse schools and move further away from the city. Families with money to do this usually have better educated kids to begin with (no matter the race) which pulls out not only kids helping keep the school's grades up, but also pulls the money out of the district. White people have more money on average than black families. Do the math.
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I wonder how the GOP will react to this?

Will he be forgotten, or get notoriety like Todd Akin?
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Gandalf wrote:I wonder how the GOP will react to this?

Will he be forgotten, or get notoriety like Todd Akin?
Forgotten... He is in a very VERY "Red" state, no one is worried about his seat and he has no strong outside competitors.
As such no story, no dram for the "Liberal" Media. I will doubt we won't hear any more about this outside of blogs.
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He's a Republican state Representative in Arkansas. Arkansas. I'd be shocked if at least one of them didn't hold these beliefs.
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This just goes to show that we do not emphasize enough how uniquely cruel an institution the American brand of slavery was.
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Haruko wrote:This just goes to show that we do not emphasize enough how uniquely cruel an institution the American brand of slavery was.
Conversly, it goes to show how effective the deep South has been in whitewashing it and re-writting history...
Slavery was nice and cuddly,
The North invaded the South and were evil.
Jim Crow was a good idea but poorly implemented...

Etc etc... This moron is a perfect end result of a 100years of "Revisionist History" by southern states.
It also goes to show how, yet again, the Media only care about something if there is a "story". If this guy was in a battle ground state, or in a hot election, or perhaps was running for something big, they would be ALL Over it like they were with Akin.. But no drama, no one cares,
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Even more sad considering Arkansas is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Missouri. And I live all of 30 or so miles from the border...this is depressing...
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America is a wonderful land where you find wonders of art, history and science within a couple hours drive (at most) form the worst shitholes in the Free World.

It is also a country firmly dedicated to the idea that you let anyone say whatever BS they think, and you sit politely and wait for your turn to deliver a verbal smackdown. I just want to know how this guy got published when I can't.

Also, being both American and Christian, I'm curious about this inaction he refers to, and likens to permitting the holocaust. Is he saying I should object to people being racially profiled, vanished on dubious charges and mistreated? I do. Or does he mean I should be reacting to the crisis that 'there are black people?" Precisely what are we not acting on?
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It says in the first paragraph the book is self published. Looking on Amazon it was also published in 2009 which would be a more then slight reason why nobody thinks its new right now.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:It says in the first paragraph the book is self published. Looking on Amazon it was also published in 2009 which would be a more then slight reason why nobody thinks its new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Letters-Editor-Co ... 0595636306
So it does. Reading Comprehension Fail, Ahriman.

I feel slightly better that the GOP isn't airing all of their stupidity all at once. But it sure seems like there are a lot more Reps willing to make public asses of themselves. Or is it just that it's an election year, so we hear about more?

Kind of scary to think this is what goes on all the time.
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Ahriman238 wrote:
Also, being both American and Christian, I'm curious about this inaction he refers to, and likens to permitting the holocaust. Is he saying I should object to people being racially profiled, vanished on dubious charges and mistreated? I do. Or does he mean I should be reacting to the crisis that 'there are black people?" Precisely what are we not acting on?
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Arkansas definitely has the crazy this year.
HuffPo wrote: Charlie Fuqua, the Republican candidate for the Arkansas House of Representatives who called for expelling Muslims from the United States in his book, also wrote in support for instituting the death penalty for "rebellious children."

In "God's Law," Fuqua's 2012 book, the candidate wrote that while parents love their children, a process could be set up to allow for the institution of the death penalty for "rebellious children," according to the Arkansas Times. Fuqua, who is anti-abortion, points out that the course of action involved in sentencing a child to death is described in the Bible and would involve judicial approval. While it is unlikely that many parents would seek to have their children killed by the government, Fuqua wrote, such power would serve as a way to stop rebellious children.

According to the Arkansas Times, Fuqua wrote:

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.

In the same book, Fuqua advocated for expelling Muslims from the U.S., saying it would solve what he described as the "Muslim problem." Fuqua, who has been backed by the state GOP and is seeking a comeback, has found himself under attack by Republicans since his comments surfaced at the same time it was reported that state Rep. Jon Hubbard (R-Jonesboro) endorsed slavery in his book. Fuqua told the Associated Press that he was surprised by the reaction to his writings on Muslims.

"I think my views are fairly well-accepted by most people," Fuqua said to AP.

Fuqua declined to answer questions from The Huffington Post.

"I'm not going to talk to you," he said before hanging up.

On his campaign blog, Fuqua highlights his service on the Children and Families Committee while a member of the Arkansas Legislature in 1997. He also describes liberals and Muslims as the "anti-Christ" and says he believes they are conspiring to create a "bloody revolution."

"There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion. It may be that since both are the enemies of Christianity, that they both believe that, my enemy's enemy is my friend," Fuqua writes. "However there are several similarities between the two. Both are antichrist in that they both deny that Jesus is God in the flesh of man, and the savior of mankind. They both also hold that their cause should take over the entire world through violent, bloody, revolution."
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Charlie Fuqua wrote: Death penalty to rebelious children.
WHAT THE FUCK?
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:wtf:

Wha...bu...HUH??!!!

And my Aunt wants to go to Arkansas for College?

This...this is just an insult to sane American Christians...
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Haruko wrote:This just goes to show that we do not emphasize enough how uniquely cruel an institution the American brand of slavery was.
Except it wasn't. How was it any different from the slavery practiced in the Caribbean, South America, and the Barbary States? Was it a cruel institution, sure, but it was hardly unique in the time period it existed.
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He said "American", not "US".
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Zaune wrote:He said "American", not "US".
As noted above, slavery in the Barbary Coast wasn't better at all either.
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