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I thought this was interesting, although I don't entirely agree with it (nor with the half-joking conclusion). He's basically arguing that most inhabitants of the SW Galaxy setting as seen in the movies are probably functionally illiterate, because they've been advanced for so long that even their ancient records are in the form of audiovisual holograms (like Jedi Holocrons). You see writing occasionally, but it's sparse and functional (like the scrawl that Luke reads from Artoo in ROTJ):
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Not once in any Star Wars movie does someone pick up a book or newspaper, magazine, literary journal, or chapbook handmade by an aspiring Jawa poet. If something is read by someone in Star Wars, it’s almost certainly off of a screen (and even then, maybe being translated by a droid), and it’s definitely not for entertainment purposes. As early as the 1990s-era expanded Star Wars books and comic books, we’re introduced to ancient Jedi “texts” called holocrons, which are basically talking holographic video recordings. Just how long has the Star Wars universe been reliant on fancy technology to transfer information as opposed to the written word? Is it possible that a good number of people in Star Wars are completely illiterate?

To be fair, finding a science fiction or fantasy universe richly populated with its own indigenous art—and more specifically, its own literature—is rare. As Lev Grossman has pointed out, “No one reads books in Narnia.” Harry Potter himself doesn’t really have a favorite novelist, and most of the stuff Tolkien’s Gandalf reads comes in the form of scrolls and prophecies...not exactly pleasure reading. Fantasy heroes don’t seem to read for pleasure very often, but usually you get the impression that they can read.

Very popular science fiction does a little bit better here, with characters on both Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica being pretty into novels and poetry. Notably, both of these universes have some kind of news media (as does Harry Potter.) And it’s in this lack of news media where the possibility of widespread illiteracy in the Star Wars galaxy starts to become more and more likely....

If you simply stick to the Star Wars films, there is no news media of any kind. Despite the fact that we see cameras circling around Queen/Senator Amidala in the Senate, they don’t seem to be actually feeding this information anywhere. Are they security cameras, like the ones that recorded Anakin killing little tiny Jedi kiddies? This theory achieves a little more weight when you consider that the conversation in The Phantom Menace Senate scene is all about how Queen Amidala can’t verify the existence of a coming invasion. She’s got no pictures, and stranger still, no reputable news source has even written about the blockade of Naboo. Even if we put forth that cameras in Star Wars are only for security and not for news, that still leaves the question of why there are no journalists. A possible answer: it’s because most people don’t read, which means that over time most people in this universe don’t ever learn to read.

“But wait!” you might be saying, “I remember seeing little pieces of text on the screen that Artoo sends to Luke to read. Also there is writing on the tractor beam controls, and people in the ships are looking at buttons with letters on them!” Well, I’d like to point out that even in the case of Luke Skywalker, these letters and pieces of writing are directly related to tasks. Pilots for the Empire are probably functionally literate, because they go through some kind of training academy. However, I think the visual evidence suggests a culture much more reliant upon technology and droids than is immediately apparent.

Uncle Owen needs a droid who can speak “bocce,” and then says something about the binary language of load lifters. Okay, so Uncle Owen needs a translator and someone to do math for him. This doesn’t sound like a guy who has gotten a suitable education. I suppose it’s possible that Luke picked up some reading here and there, but we don’t see any books or any evidence to suggest he’s a fluent reader. It seems like all the characters in Star Wars learn how to do is punch certain buttons to make their machines do what they need to do, and everything else is left up to droids.

In our own culture, pictograms have rapidly replaced words on traffic signs, restrooms, etc. The buttons being pressed by the Death Star control room workers might not even be letters. They might be pictograms representing different functions; functions like “death ray blast” and “trash compact.” Plus, how could those guys read anything in those helmets, anyway?

Attack of the Clones sees Obi-Wan Kenobi go to the Jedi Library, but again, this research facility seems less about books and more about pretty colors, interactive holographic maps, etc. The amount of actual reading even someone like Obi-Wan does is still limited. Now, I imagine Jedi can probably read and are taught to read, as are rich people like Princess Leia and Padme Amidala and Jimmy Smits. But everything in Star Wars is about video chat via holograms, or verbal communication through com-links. Nobody texts in Star Wars!

It seems like this society has slipped into a kind of highly functional illiteracy. Surely, for these cultures to progress and become spacefaring entities, they needed written language at some point. But now, the necessity to actually learn reading and writing is fading away. Those who know how to build and repair droids and computers probably have better jobs than those who can’t. This is why there seems to be so much poverty in Star Wars: widespread ignorance.

The idea of education becoming obsolete due to cultural changes isn’t without a science fiction precedent. In the Star Trek pilot “The Cage,” Vina speaks of a culture that “forgets how to repair the machines left behind by their ancestors.” I’m postulating that the same thing happened with literacy in the Star Wars galaxy. People stopped using the written word, because they didn’t need to, and it slipped away from being a commonly held skill.

And to bring up evidence from the expanded universe material a little more: in those stories even ancient Jedi records exist in the form of holograms. I’d say the switch to visual/audio communication from written communication has been underway for a long time in the Star Wars galaxy. It’s also possible people in Star Wars are simply not as imaginative as we are. Maybe the humans and aliens populating A Galaxy, Far, Far Away are totally boring people who simply used the written word for the purposes of getting their basic culture off the ground – for commerce only, rather than for reflection or pleasure.

The final nail in the coffin which proves widespread illiteracy is how fast stories of the Jedi mutate from a fact of everyday life into legend, seemingly overnight. This is because the average citizen of the galaxy in Star Wars receives his/her/its information orally, from stories told by spacers in bars, farmboys on arid planets, orphans in crime-ridden cities, etc. Without written documents, these stories easily become perverted and altered quickly. This is the same way Palpatine was able to take over in Revenge of the Sith. He simply said “the Jedi tried to kill me” and everyone was like, “okay.”

Padme points out that liberty dies “with thunderous applause,” but really their liberty is dying because most of them can’t read and are powerless and disenfranchised. In fact most of the surviving characters at the end of the prequels are the bad guys, and they can probably read. The Jedi seem to be the most educated people in the prequels, but that changes when they all get killed. This would be like a real life Empire going and burning down all the colleges and schools and killing all the teachers. The academy, the keepers of literacy would be gone. And once that happens, it’s easy for a tyrannical empire to take over, to control the information. Maybe Padme should have said “this is how literacy dies...”

But, what’s sad about Star Wars is that its inhabitants (save for our heroes) seem so complacent and lacking in imagination that this sort of thing was bound to happen in one way or another. In reality, if a whole culture relied exclusively on a group like the Jedi to not only guard justice and truth, but also be the only educated, literate people around, that culture would be seriously screwed up. Meanwhile, these people simply rely on their droids to do everything else.

Obi-Wan may have put a lightsaber in Luke’s hand, but really he and Qui-Gon should have been going around teaching people on poor planets to read years and years prior. After all, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good book in your hands.
Okay, the ending is kind of lame. Still, it's interesting food for thought. In a setting like that, where you have cheap holographic recording technology that can last for literally millenia, what would happen to written text? Would it start to shift into a more limited "functional" role?

EDIT: I suspect that Publius would have a field day with this.
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This is a cyberpunk idea really; the notion that with pervasive electronics, cheap audiovisual gear, the average consumer might be no more than icon-literate and get all their information from footage- look at the first wave of cyberpunk writers, late seventies early eighties, you can find people who thought the twenty- first century was going to be like that, never mind the two hundred and fiftieth.

Oh, it's easy enough to demolish the argument in detail, but I have a nasty feeling he's got a general point. HoloNet News does exist- it's official, at least. On the other hand, the existence of news services doesn't equate to literacy- how often do you sit down in front of a television to read the news? Subtitles, maybe, but it's hardly the dominant mode- you watch it, you listen to it. Ocasionally there are graphics.

Media does not necessarily equal literacy, then- although he argues as if it does, and as if literacy was directly related to intelligence, as if images in fact convey nothing; that complex concepts like truth and justice cannot be explained by people, but only by woodpulp. Seriously, does this writer emanate from the late nineteenth century? This is pre- cyberpunk, this is like the Victorians' attitude to radio.

I find it hard to imagine a modern or post- modern (whatever that means) state without information control, it's as obvious as having a central bank, more obvious than having a school system in the first place; it's not a trick that can be missed.

Counterpoint, clearly what education system the GFFA has works; there are a lot of operator- mechanics out there doing tricky things with complex, high powered machinery. All that information didn't get into their heads by accident, whatever the actual mechanism.


Where I get worried about this is that it goes to the root of what Star Wars (unfortunately) is, and what it isn't. Campbellian monomyth, hero's journey- in which the ordinary people do precisely what, exactly? Sweet damn' all except wait to be screwed over by fate, the overwhelming majority of the time- the closest we get to ordinary (not going near the prequels, TYVM) in the original trilogy are a few grunts and footsoldiers, most of whom die as a result of the choices and mistakes of their leadership. It's all about the heroes.

What bugs me is not so much whether Joe Galactic-Average can read and write- on balance I reckon he probably can- but about whether or not he counts; and the overwhelming majority of the time the normal people don't.
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Padme points out that liberty dies “with thunderous applause,” but really their liberty is dying because most of them can’t read and are powerless and disenfranchised. In fact most of the surviving characters at the end of the prequels are the bad guys, and they can probably read. The Jedi seem to be the most educated people in the prequels, but that changes when they all get killed. This would be like a real life Empire going and burning down all the colleges and schools and killing all the teachers. The academy, the keepers of literacy would be gone. And once that happens, it’s easy for a tyrannical empire to take over, to control the information. Maybe Padme should have said “this is how literacy dies...”
Now THIS I don't buy- among other things because the Jedi have, if anything, less need of literacy than the technical establishment that designs and engineers new projects.

The Death Star was not built by illiterates, even if by some wonder of AI it could be crewed by them- which is itself rather unlikely.
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Its not impossible to suggest that a good portion of Star Wars citizens are functionally illterate. Afterall, literacy doesn't just mean being able to read, its about being able to comprehend articles and at higher levels, criticize and analyze it.


But for that, we really need much more evidence than is provided here. His...... evidence of the lack just doesn't cut it.

Jedi from fact becoming legend? Not implausible, once one considers the sheer scarcity of Jedi and how many organisations/religions are there. Does anyone remembers Zoorastism?Mithras?

Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith? Say what? You mean the actual attempt to arrest and kill Palpatine when the arrest was thwarted, and when Palpatine edited the records to remove the arrest portion and him successfully resisting arrest?



Furthermore, one could also argue that you don't necessarily need the written word to transmit skills/knowledge when you have video. I won't, since I can read faster than I can hear but its not impossible.
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George Lucas specifically and absolutely banned any paper in the original trilogy, and maintained that for the prequels.
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The fact that Luke - a desert farmer on a godforsaken planet out in the middle of nowhere in the Outer Rim - could read the few bits of text that we see suggests that some basic literacy is probably widespread (unless Beru and Owen were unusually devoted to teaching the words). Of course, that's not the same as "functional illiteracy".
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Little Ani seems to read quite fluently for an 8yo slave in TPM.
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EDIT: "That's not the same as functional literacy".
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Do they even build schools in the GFFA? I can't recall ever reading anything about established institutions in the GFFA where young kids go to learn elementary subjects. Perhaps at this stage in their technological development they can simply upload knowledge into brains as easily as it is for us to upload files onto our computers.
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Boeing 757 wrote:Do they even build schools in the GFFA? I can't recall ever reading anything about established institutions in the GFFA where young kids go to learn elementary subjects. Perhaps at this stage in their technological development they can simply upload knowledge into brains as easily as it is for us to upload files onto our computers.
I would guess not, as the closest we see to that was the training program for the clones in AotC; the people who would need it most and IIRC they still didn't simply download information into their brains directly. However, they did use computer aided learning in that movie, and may use it elsewhere to a point where dedicated institutions for learning basic subjects are considered as unnecessary as paper.

Also, we don't really see the upbringing of many normal children (as opposed to Jedi apprentices) in the Star Wars franchise, to say nothing of the movies. We see more of Anikan and Luke's childhood environment than any other characters in the movies, but they both grew up on the frontier where you really shouldn't be surprised by the lack of dedicated schools.
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Boeing 757 wrote:Do they even build schools in the GFFA? I can't recall ever reading anything about established institutions in the GFFA where young kids go to learn elementary subjects. Perhaps at this stage in their technological development they can simply upload knowledge into brains as easily as it is for us to upload files onto our computers.
I would guess not, as the closest we see to that was the training program for the clones in AotC; the people who would need it most and IIRC they still didn't simply download information into their brains directly. However, they did use computer aided learning in that movie, and may use it elsewhere to a point where dedicated institutions for learning basic subjects are considered as unnecessary as paper.

Also, we don't really see the upbringing of many normal children (as opposed to Jedi apprentices) in the Star Wars franchise, to say nothing of the movies. We see more of Anikan and Luke's childhood environment than any other characters in the movies, but they both grew up on the frontier where you really shouldn't be surprised by the lack of dedicated schools.
I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
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IIRC a school is mentioned in the Krytos Trap as a possible target for Loor's terrorist activities.
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In the Clone Wars episode, "Corruption", we actually see Mandalorian schools, seeing as how the whole episode revolves around the fact that their cafeterias tea supplies are being poisoned.
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As for the never seeing a school in star wars, hey guess what one of the earliest plot points of ANHope was? That Uncle Lars was holding Luke back from going to the academy. Sure sounds like a school to me.
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Agent Sorchus wrote:As for the never seeing a school in star wars, hey guess what one of the earliest plot points of ANHope was? That Uncle Lars was holding Luke back from going to the academy. Sure sounds like a school to me.
Why would any military academy waste its time teaching people how to read and write? That is the whole purpose of elementary schools. Which were what I inquired about.
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Boeing 757 wrote:Do they even build schools in the GFFA? I can't recall ever reading anything about established institutions in the GFFA where young kids go to learn elementary subjects. Perhaps at this stage in their technological development they can simply upload knowledge into brains as easily as it is for us to upload files onto our computers.
Han Solo met Garm Bel Ilbis in school, although the Ann C Crisp set up for it was............ arrgghh...

He was eleven so that's probably still the age for basic schooling........ although the set up and topics sounds more like tertiary education.

I mean seriously, who gives a talk to eleven year old and expects to field questions regarding xenophobia?
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It was at an upper-class academy, wasn't it? You can get very intelligent discourse out of children if they're well-tutored, your school has the freedom to hire the very best, and you can expel any kids who are there to goof off.
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Yes it was. But like I said, the combined set up was that Garm went to the school to give a talk and there was a Q&A in which Han Solo participated, indeed, was dared to ask the question by another fellow student.

While I do remember 11 years old being that naughty, I struggling to imagine a 11 year old having the chutzpah and self awareness to know that xenophobia and Senate corruption was a taboo topic and good for a dare. And that a Q&A session was held at a primary school.


Its not implausible. PR campaign, give a speech at the same time and during a PR talk afterwards, Han stepped up with a question that stunned the Senator.. which leads to him keeping an eye on him afterwards.

Wonder why he didn't step in to save Han Solo from a life of crime and abuse then...... I'm sorry, but I still can't understand why Ann C Crisp series was so well received by others on this board. Sure, she did a great job tying together disparate elements of Han Solo life but the plot itself just causes goosebumps.
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Might I say that I find the datapad to be quite like a fancy tablet.
We have today something called e-books and might I remember everybody that those Stormtrooper helmets(?) most likely have a build in HUB to show important info.

As for why a X-wing didn't have a HUB, it has the location, so it's probably completely holografic.
Probably never installed by the rebs, so that the power could go to the shields, instead they used some strange contraption.

Also, remember as well that the planet we see the most, is Jabba's home.
And you guys expect cheap and easily to see schools there?
I found it a miracle that Anakin Skywalker and his friends are so technical, especialy if you consider that they are slaves and their tech-know-how is quite divers.

Most people in SW don't have that diverse a tech background, especialy not on that age.
But that might come from the planet being a back-water planet and Watto's shop trading in used stuff.
Building your own hot-rod is more something for rebelius(?) teens in the better core worlds, who of you owned a motor-bike?
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To be realistic, youtube movies that explain how things work and why this is so, remember more easily then some dull text.
But the dull text is always better then a teacher that lets your mind spinning in confusion, thanks to his/her speed of explaining.
Basicaly, there is grounds for both sides of the argument, meaning that it's most likely somewere in the middle.
Probably depending on the planets them self.
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