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ABC News wrote: Policeman 'plotted to kidnap, roast and eat women'
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PHOTO: Gilberto Valle allegedly plotted to kidnap, cook and eat his potential victims. (Facebook)
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A New York police officer has been accused of plotting to kidnap up to 100 women, roast them in his oven or over a fire - and then eat them.

Gilberto Valle is alleged to have discussed cooking his potential victims during online conversations and emails.

Detectives are said to have found details of more than a hundred women on his computer.

According to a criminal complaint, Valle, an active New York Police Department officer, discussed "kidnapping, cooking and eating body parts of women" with an unnamed witness.

The duo allegedly discussed using chloroform to knock their prey out, then bring them back to 28-year-old Valle's kitchen, where the officer said he had a big enough oven "if I folded their legs".

Slow cooking the victims on a spit over an open fire or roasting them alive in a cage were also considered.

Valle, who was reportedly stationed in Harlem, was arrested yesterday at his home in the New York borough of Queens.

The co-conspirator, who has not been identified, was not charged and there was no further detail about the individual or others involved.

The United States attorney's office for Manhattan referred to multiple co-conspirators.

'Speak for themselves'
No women were harmed, but FBI acting assistant director Mary Galligan said the stomach-churning allegations were beyond comment.

"The allegations in the complaint really need no description from us. They speak for themselves," she said.

"It would be an understatement merely to say Valle's own words and actions were shocking."

The FBI learned about Valle's plan in September when it found that he had spent months discussing details on emails and instant messages from his home computer, according to the complaint.

A search of his computer allegedly revealed files kept on at least 100 women, each with a name and photograph and often personal details such as address and descriptions.

Valle is said to have illegally used law enforcement databases to draw up a target list of women.

Then he concocted a "plan to abduct and cook an identified woman, researching methods of disabling and drugging women, and agreeing with at least one other individual to kidnap a woman in exchange for a sum of money".

Although no murders took place, Valle allegedly went as far as meeting one of his intended victims.

The co-conspirator asked him "How was your meal?" to which Valle is alleged to have replied: "I am meeting her."

The ghoulish meeting took place, the FBI says, in a restaurant.

According to the complaint, Valle was preparing to do the kidnapping, for which the co-conspirator promised to pay him $5,000 a victim.

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:wtf:

That...just defies explanation...
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Blah, there's all kinds of creeps on dating sites now.
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Good the aspiring horror movie character failed to achieve any of his goals before getting caught.
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I wasn't aware that discussing things online was a crime. What exactly is this sick fuck charged with?
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Flagg wrote:I wasn't aware that discussing things online was a crime. What exactly is this sick fuck charged with?
At a guess I would say multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a kidnapping and murder.
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Flagg wrote:I wasn't aware that discussing things online was a crime. What exactly is this sick fuck charged with?
At a guess I would say multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a kidnapping and murder.
That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
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He thought he'd get away with it because he's a policeman, and Blue Wall etc..

On a more serious note, this illustrates a truth of the internet that gets ignored time and again: anything you put out there can't be called back. Using the internet has its risks, and this monster was fortunately careless enough not to cover his tracks.
Flagg wrote:That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
Normal people don't have fantasies of being a fucking cannibal, and this turd was acting upon it. The warning signs were there, and you expect people to dismiss it as something harmless?
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Flagg wrote:
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Flagg wrote:I wasn't aware that discussing things online was a crime. What exactly is this sick fuck charged with?
At a guess I would say multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a kidnapping and murder.
That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
That might fly if it had been only something he kept to himself, but actively discussing how to carry that shit out indicates intent, as does the abuse of the police computer systems to pick targets. That's probably another thing that he gets charged for. There are probably half a dozen things they can hit him with just in relation to that. Abuse of police powers, unauthorized entry to computer systems, violations of privacy statutes etc etc.

Probably enough just in the secondaries alone to put him away for a good few years and then the big ones on top of that.
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Flagg wrote:
Edi wrote:
Flagg wrote:I wasn't aware that discussing things online was a crime. What exactly is this sick fuck charged with?
At a guess I would say multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a kidnapping and murder.
That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
I think offering a large sum of money to help him in the task is enough to move beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Eulogy wrote:He thought he'd get away with it because he's a policeman, and Blue Wall etc..

On a more serious note, this illustrates a truth of the internet that gets ignored time and again: anything you put out there can't be called back. Using the internet has its risks, and this monster was fortunately careless enough not to cover his tracks.
Flagg wrote:That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
Normal people don't have fantasies of being a fucking cannibal, and this turd was acting upon it. The warning signs were there, and you expect people to dismiss it as something harmless?
No? But juries are notoriousely stupid.
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Edi wrote:
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Edi wrote: At a guess I would say multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a kidnapping and murder.
That's probably what it is, I just wish the article said exactly what he's charged with. I wonder if this will even stand up in court since he can easily argue it was just a fantasy, however sick and disgusting it might be.
That might fly if it had been only something he kept to himself, but actively discussing how to carry that shit out indicates intent, as does the abuse of the police computer systems to pick targets. That's probably another thing that he gets charged for. There are probably half a dozen things they can hit him with just in relation to that. Abuse of police powers, unauthorized entry to computer systems, violations of privacy statutes etc etc.

Probably enough just in the secondaries alone to put him away for a good few years and then the big ones on top of that.
I hope so. This fucker needs to be in jail.
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There a lot of site out there that write stories, pic manipulation, accident pics, drawings etc all of cannibalism, torture and worse stuff. So yeah it could have just been fantasy. However it's hard to determine sometimes if the person is a real sicko or just sick. Any thing you can dream on is out somewhere on the net.
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dragon wrote:There a lot of site out there that write stories, pic manipulation, accident pics, drawings etc all of cannibalism, torture and worse stuff. So yeah it could have just been fantasy. However it's hard to determine sometimes if the person is a real sicko or just sick. Any thing you can dream on is out somewhere on the net.
Illegally accessing the police database for personal information about potential victims and offering to pay $5000 for help pushes it out of the realm of "sick fantasy" I think.
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General Zod wrote:
dragon wrote:There a lot of site out there that write stories, pic manipulation, accident pics, drawings etc all of cannibalism, torture and worse stuff. So yeah it could have just been fantasy. However it's hard to determine sometimes if the person is a real sicko or just sick. Any thing you can dream on is out somewhere on the net.
Illegally accessing the police database for personal information about potential victims and offering to pay $5000 for help pushes it out of the realm of "sick fantasy" I think.
Um yeah might be a bit overboard. Must have skimmed past point.
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He wasn't the one offering $5000, the other guys were offering him that much money.
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Dominus Atheos wrote:He wasn't the one offering $5000, the other guys were offering him that much money.
Point, misread that. Either way it starts getting serious once money enters the picture.
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I'd say it starts getting serious when you use the police resources to collect data on women you don't know and making up "files" on them including where to locate them.
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^What she said. It stops being merely a fantasy when not only it is about real world women, but you actually start collecting information (up to and apparently including misuse of your police resources) on those real world women. I'd say that's pretty good evidence for him actually intending to go through with it.
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Batman wrote:^What she said. It stops being merely a fantasy when not only it is about real world women, but you actually start collecting information (up to and apparently including misuse of your police resources) on those real world women. I'd say that's pretty good evidence for him actually intending to go through with it.
I said as much not three posts above. :?
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Maybe it's just that we're all so squicked out we can't help but repeat the obvious: this was one sick fucker and we're all glad he was caught before he hurt anyone for real (at least, I hope we caught him that early).
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Be interested to see if he had any kind of disciplinary issues/reports against him as an officer.
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Well there's been cases of people willing to let parts of themselves be eaten, the guy in Japan offering to cook his own testicles. Then there's the german guy
n March 2001 Meiwes advertised on the internet for a "young well-built man, who wanted to be eaten". Brandes replied.

On the evening of March 9, the two men went up to the bedroom in Meiwes' rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr Brandes swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Meiwes cut off Brandes' penis, with his agreement, and fried it for both of them to eat.

Brandes - by this stage bleeding heavily - then took a bath, while Meiwes read a Star Trek novel.

In the early hours of the morning, he finished off his victim by stabbing him in the neck with a large kitchen knife, kissing him first.

The cannibal then chopped Mr Brandes into pieces and put several bits of him in his freezer, next to a takeaway pizza, and buried the skull in his garden.
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There is no indication that this guy was going to ask the woman's consent prior to kidnapping, grilling, and eating.
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Let's not forget the torture. The horrible, ceaseless, murderous torture.
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