Advice for dealing with certain people

[UltraViolence83]

There's this board I've very recently began posting on...It deals with metaphysics, mysticism and the such. After browsing the board for a little while, and noticing their responses to certain topics, it's appeared to me that alot of them seem rather solipsitic, in that they accept everything as reality while claiming that nothing is real, or something like that. They remind me of that PezCollectorGuy nutcase. Some seem to buy into those crackpot "The establishment won't listen to us!" morons. Anyway, I like the board so I don't just want to leave it...How should I deal with them? Granted, if they get too bad I'll just leave.

Oh yeah, has anyone heard of the HAB theory? It involves the idea that the Antarctic ice sheet causes the Earth to wobble, and after a long time to shift its axis drastically. I said that theory was bullshit. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I want to know for sure. What about that supervolcano in Yellowstone? Some claim it's long overdue for an eruption. Is that true?

[TrailerParkJawa]

There is a super volcano in the Yellowstone area. I forget the name for type of volcanic eruption is can cause. Its not a big cone volcano, but more of an underground euruption like a big caldera.

As to the other theory I cant coment, sounds like bullshit shit though.

[UltraViolence83]

Heh. I thought so.

[Joe]

Sounds like pseudoscience and new-age bullshit to me.

[Darth Wong]

There's this board I've very recently began posting on...It deals with metaphysics, mysticism and the such. After browsing the board for a little while, and noticing their responses to certain topics, it's appeared to me that alot of them seem rather solipsitic, in that they accept everything as reality while claiming that nothing is real, or something like that. They remind me of that PezCollectorGuy nutcase. Some seem to buy into those crackpot "The establishment won't listen to us!" morons. Anyway, I like the board so I don't just want to leave it...How should I deal with them? Granted, if they get too bad I'll just leave.

They construct a philosophical system under which it is essentially impossible to prove or disprove anything. Then, they crow that their theories cannot be disproven once you accept their philosophical system

Oh yeah, has anyone heard of the HAB theory? It involves the idea that the Antarctic ice sheet causes the Earth to wobble, and after a long time to shift its axis drastically. I said that theory was bullshit. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I want to know for sure. What about that supervolcano in Yellowstone? Some claim it's long overdue for an eruption. Is that true?

Look at the mass of the Antarctic ice sheet relative to the mass of the Earth. If it has an effect, it's insignificant. This is like the 19th century belief that skyscrapers would destabilize the rotation of the Earth.

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

There's this board I've very recently began posting on...It deals with metaphysics, mysticism and the such. After browsing the board for a little while, and noticing their responses to certain topics, it's appeared to me that alot of them seem rather solipsitic, in that they accept everything as reality while claiming that nothing is real, or something like that. They remind me of that PezCollectorGuy nutcase. Some seem to buy into those crackpot "The establishment won't listen to us!" morons. Anyway, I like the board so I don't just want to leave it...How should I deal with them? Granted, if they get too bad I'll just leave.

Oh yeah, has anyone heard of the HAB theory? It involves the idea that the Antarctic ice sheet causes the Earth to wobble, and after a long time to shift its axis drastically. I said that theory was bullshit. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I want to know for sure. What about that supervolcano in Yellowstone? Some claim it's long overdue for an eruption. Is that true?

Oooh, a conspiracy nut board! And the HAB theory, yes, it's been discussed to great extent in a book called "5/5/2000 -- Ice, the Ultimate Disaster." That book states that Antarctic ice was making the Earth's axis wobble, and that a planetary alignment that is to occur on 5 May, 2000, would cause a catastrophic pole-shift. Except that . . . whoops, it's currently 11 March, 2003.

Oh well, the next scheduled time for this 'pole-shift' to occur would be in 2012, when the Mayan calendar runs out. But essentially it's the material of conspiracy nuts and has little passing resemblance to reality. And indeed, there really is considerable geological activity under Yellowstone. But there are also a number of volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest that are overdue for an eruption.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

the 19th century belief that skyscrapers would destabilize the rotation of the Earth.

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!! OMFG Those blithering idiots!!! LMFAO!!!

[neoolong]

the 19th century belief that skyscrapers would destabilize the rotation of the Earth.

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!! OMFG Those blithering idiots!!! LMFAO!!!

The thought of Coruscant would probably reduce them to quivering piles of worry.

[Sriad]

the 19th century belief that skyscrapers would destabilize the rotation of the Earth.

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!! OMFG Those blithering idiots!!! LMFAO!!!

Er, QQ? You lost me for a bit.

And I don't have time for worrying about silly things like the ice caps screwing up the Earth's rotation, I'm much too busy worrying about what would happen if all the Chinese jumped off their chairs at once. Probably some kind of earthquake would destroy California, I bet.

[UltraViolence83]

Heh. On that board I'm currently trying to tell one of them that their belief that "since there is no absolute proof for anything, everything is subjective" is solipstry. Any pointers?

EDIT: Spelling correction.

[Sriad]

Heh. On that board I'm currently trying to tell one of them that their belief that "since there is no absolute proof for anything, everything is subjective" is solipstry. Any pointers?

EDIT: Spelling correction.

There's a pretty good quote by ...I think it was by Winston Churchill... addressing this. It was pretty good and I can't find it for the life of me.

If you can't find anything better you could always point out that the evidence in favor of believing your senses far outweighs the evidence against.

[Captain tycho]

the 19th century belief that skyscrapers would destabilize the rotation of the Earth.

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!! OMFG Those blithering idiots!!! LMFAO!!!

The thought of Coruscant would probably reduce them to quivering piles of worry.

No, it give them strokes and put them in a coma for 50 years, then when they wake up they are reduced to a shell of worry.
Stupidity defies all physics, as my old professor said.

[KhyronTheBackstabber]

Here are some articles on the Yellowstone volcano, if anyone cares.

http://www.rense.com/general12/dwarf.htm
http://www.rense.com/general12/vol.htm
http://www.rense.com/general31/overdue.htm


That last one is the token "We're all doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed..." article that pop up when something like this is found. Of course if that thing did blow we would be doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed. Go home now!

[UltraViolence83]

I'm ThomasInFlames. Help me stomp this fuckhead.


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ThomasInFlames wrote:
As for your statement about hiding it from the public, how did YOU find that information?


What statement exactly are you talking about? I never made any comment of that sort.

ThomasInFlames wrote:
That HAB theory IS FROM A SCIENCE FICTION BOOK. Why are you offering that as evidence!?


Actually, the HAB theory was originally presented by Hugh Auchincloss Brown (born 1878) in his work titled Cataclysms of the Earth (released in 1969, HAB was 91 years old). His theory was then taken and re-written into a fictional book called The HAB Theory (released in 1976) in which a fictional character named Herbet Alan Boardman replaces Hugh Auchincloss Brown.

ThomasInFlames wrote:
The scientists listening to the end time theories aren't real scientists.


You might be interested to known that Albert Einstein was a endorser of the HAB theory. If Einstein isn't a 'real scientist' I don't know who is.

ThomasInFlames wrote:
I've just read replies to a similiar question on another board, they say the HAB theory is crap...


If you're going to discount information from this board without proper research first, then you have to do the same for every other forum you come across. You can't pick and choose posts you like because they agree with your narrow point of view and use them to support your argument unless you accept all posts as true. That's like a Christian denying all accounts of scientific proof against the creation of the earth, and then trying to use scientific proof to support his religious faith.

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I wasn't referring to you. I was talking to yfg regarding the scientist's theories. Sorry about the mishap.
I'd like some evidence myself of Albert beleiving in the HAB theory. Besides, many such people get a little strange. Kelvin did great work on thermodynamics, but in his later years he became demented, and claimed that humans could never fly...yet he must have seen hot air ballons in his lifetime. In the 19th century, some thought that skyscrapers would destablize the Earth's rotation. As for HAB, it's pseudoscience. If the Earth was to flip over so goddamn fast (within 1000-10000 years), we would have uncommon weather effects as well as massive changes in orientation regarding the stars in the night sky. This is simple common sense. I don't have any evidence on me to refute the Luciferians' idea that a giant cube is headed towards Earth either, but it's still crap.

[KhyronTheBackstabber]

What's the web address for this place, I want to check it out.

[UltraViolence83]

Uh...I don't want to post it...It'll be invaded most likely. Besides that dumbass already conceeded the point to me. I won. I'll PM you the link, if you like.

[UltraViolence83]

And the site isn't what you're probably thinking it's like. It's not all about conpiracy theories and the such. It deals mainly with mysticism. You know, like Wicca and the Tarot and all that.

[Stuart Mackey]

There's this board I've very recently began posting on...It deals with metaphysics, mysticism and the such. After browsing the board for a little while, and noticing their responses to certain topics, it's appeared to me that alot of them seem rather solipsitic, in that they accept everything as reality while claiming that nothing is real, or something like that. They remind me of that PezCollectorGuy nutcase. Some seem to buy into those crackpot "The establishment won't listen to us!" morons. Anyway, I like the board so I don't just want to leave it...How should I deal with them? Granted, if they get too bad I'll just leave.

Oh yeah, has anyone heard of the HAB theory? It involves the idea that the Antarctic ice sheet causes the Earth to wobble, and after a long time to shift its axis drastically. I said that theory was bullshit. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I want to know for sure. What about that supervolcano in Yellowstone? Some claim it's long overdue for an eruption. Is that true?

Oooh, a conspiracy nut board! And the HAB theory, yes, it's been discussed to great extent in a book called "5/5/2000 -- Ice, the Ultimate Disaster." That book states that Antarctic ice was making the Earth's axis wobble, and that a planetary alignment that is to occur on 5 May, 2000, would cause a catastrophic pole-shift. Except that . . . whoops, it's currently 11 March, 2003.

Oh well, the next scheduled time for this 'pole-shift' to occur would be in 2012, when the Mayan calendar runs out. But essentially it's the material of conspiracy nuts and has little passing resemblance to reality. And indeed, there really is considerable geological activity under Yellowstone. But there are also a number of volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest that are overdue for an eruption.

I read in a book that suscribed to similar Idea. That this ice wobble thing was responcible for the destruction of Atlantis, whic was situated in Antartica. The shift of the earths crust, but not the planet, cause Atlantis to be eventualy swallowed in ice. The survivors of this are supposidly responcible for the sudden appearence of agriculture, locations and appearance of Pirimids in Egypt and South America. These survivors passed their knowledge on to native populations and gave us various building techniques.
This book has a lot of interesting things. The most interesting is a 15th century map that shows the continant of antartica without ice.