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Re: [Official Thread] 2012 US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

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thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/06/reddit-user-captures-video-of-2012-voting-machines-altering-votes/

Also that. Who knows if it is just an unfortunate bug, but if they reports of it being widespread are true it's still ridiculous.
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weemadando wrote:How the fuck do we let you still be a country?

1.5hrs queuing to vote? We've got compulsory voting and I have never waited for more than 15 minutes. Usually its only 1-5.
How the fuck do we let Australia still be a country?

15 minute queuing to vote? We've got mail-order voting and I have never waited for more than 1 minute while in my car pulling up to the drop box. Usually its only 0. :P

Don't lump us all in with the idiots in other states who can't figure this incredibly simple process.
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weemadando wrote:thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/11/06/reddit-user-captures-video-of-2012-voting-machines-altering-votes/

Also that. Who knows if it is just an unfortunate bug, but if they reports of it being widespread are true it's still ridiculous.
That's clearly a configuration issue. The touch screen is miscalibrated. The guy needs to call an election worker over and then they should be able recalibrate it.

Edit: It looks like that link even has another link to someone saying the exact same thing:
When we asked people to share their stories of voting irregularity earlier today, dozens of people shared this video — currently on the Reddit front page with nearly 20,000 up-votes — of a Pennsylvania voting machine seemingly altering a man's vote from Obama to Romney. We reached out to Joseph Lorenzo Hall, Senior Staff Technologist at the Center for Democracy & Technology, to ask his opinion; here's what he told us:

"It's a concern but not because of fraud... that's an obviously miscalibrated iVotronic (ES&S) voting machine... we would recommend that poll workers would recalibrate the machine and everything would be fine. Also, with some models of voting system if you place a thumb on accident while resting on the machine it can "bias" the calibration of the touchscreen up towards the errant thumb. That could be happening to, if it's only for this one voter."
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weemadando wrote:How the fuck do we let you still be a country?

1.5hrs queuing to vote? We've got compulsory voting and I have never waited for more than 15 minutes. Usually its only 1-5.
I'm not saying this is the only factor, but you realize that New York City alone has a population equal to over 80% of your entire country, right?

Course, I voted last week and had a waiting period of exactly zero so it's possible that 1.5 hour wait times aren't indicative of the average voter's experience.
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Just voted in SF. No appreciable line, even at lunch time, in my precinct.
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I voted at around 8:30 am. I signed the register; no ID required, likely because voter registration here is tied to the DMV so they had my signature on hand. Instead of the usual switch and lever machines to which I'm accustomed, I filled out a paper ballot and ran it through a scanner. At no time did anyone touch or see my ballot aside from the person who handed it to me. I also received a large folder to store my ballot in as I took it to the scanner. All in all a quick painless process.

Our candidates included Obama, Romney, Stein, Johnson, Goode and Lindsay (socialist party).
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Dalton wrote:I voted at around 8:30 am. I signed the register; no ID required, likely because voter registration here is tied to the DMV so they had my signature on hand. Instead of the usual switch and lever machines to which I'm accustomed, I filled out a paper ballot and ran it through a scanner. At no time did anyone touch or see my ballot aside from the person who handed it to me. I also received a large folder to store my ballot in as I took it to the scanner. All in all a quick painless process.

Our candidates included Obama, Romney, Stein, Johnson, Goode and Lindsay (socialist party).
That sounds like a pretty good way to vote. In case of doubt, they still have the hardcopies for checking.
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I voted here in Nevada last Sunday thanks to the early voting. Was not terribly encouraged that they were using electronic Dominion/Sequoia AVC Edge systems (which had been rejected by California's electronic machine review back in '10), but at least they have the VVPT printer modules attached to each one and functioning properly. All in all, with about 30 minutes to poll closing, I made it through the line in 15 minutes.
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I voted by mail 2 weeks ago. It's so easy. Lines? What's this about lines?
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I didn't have to wait at all to vote, but since I'm a white guy in an upper-middle-class area my vote obviously counts a lot more than, say, poor Hispanics who live an hour and a half by car away from their polling place, where they can wait in line for hours to vote on aging unreliable machines - if they have a driver's license for the car they can't afford.

Suppressing votes that way is a lot more rewarding since it's not flashy for the media to report on like allegations of "malfunctioning" computer voting machines.
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I voted today very quickly on the way to work. Just went into the town hall, went up to the person who handles the part of the alphabet my last name is in, said who I was, and my address. Got the ballot, filled it out, checked with a second desk afterwards (same as first desk), and popped it in the machine. Fortunately, the machine had mercy and mine was not the one out of ten that it rejects on principle on the first time.

Less than five minutes total to vote, and I even took the time to fill in the bubbles solidly and within all of the borders.

Weren't any lines since it was early, and this is a small town, but they had a lot more booths set up in the room than usual, so I think they expected a high turnout.
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Dalton wrote:Our candidates included Obama, Romney, Stein, Johnson, Goode and Lindsay (socialist party).
Socialist's website has a pretty revolutionary gun-ho writing style to it.

My neighborhood is probably full of people who works the usual hours so not a lot of people were voting when I was there around 9:30. I suppose if people could vote on their day off, overcrowding wouldn't be an issue if they can be staggered throughout the day.
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Found this on the radio times:

Obama vs Romney :lol:
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Voted today after picking up my son from school. Took him into the polling place for an impromptu civics lesson. I'd also driven my mother to her polling station earlier today as her car is still in the repair dock.
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I think this is too interesting to leave it. There's an interesting difference between Obama and Romney when it comes how to treat the press at their respective HQ where they'll either triumpf or accept defeat.

Romney first off kept MSNBC away and gave Fox everything they need to work with. In the media centre, they charge for reporters $75 just for a seat and a whooping $1020 for internet access. TV crews in the main hall even have to pay $6500.

Obama on the other hand , while charging for premiums, allows credentialed reporters are granted access, which includes a workstation, electrical power and a wireless Internet connection, at no cost.

The centrast is interesting.
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Voted, line was barely 4 people at the one choke point at the polls. Doesn't mean I'm happy about the place however since I requested but never received a mail-in ballot. Stupid CO.
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Tribun wrote:I think this is too interesting to leave it. There's an interesting difference between Obama and Romney when it comes how to treat the press at their respective HQ where they'll either triumpf or accept defeat.

Romney first off kept MSNBC away and gave Fox everything they need to work with. In the media centre, they charge for reporters $75 just for a seat and a whooping $1020 for internet access. TV crews in the main hall even have to pay $6500.

Obama on the other hand , while charging for premiums, allows credentialed reporters are granted access, which includes a workstation, electrical power and a wireless Internet connection, at no cost.

The centrast is interesting.
Also surprising, to me at least. I thought the Republicans would want to spread their message on left-leaning networks.
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I'm at 30 Rock. My shift hasn't started yet, and I'm not in the hotseat until 3am, but things are bananas over here.
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You know, Dalton, saying things are bananas isn't even half as funny with your field-artillery avatar compared to how it used to be. :lol:
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Dalton wrote:I'm at 30 Rock. My shift hasn't started yet, and I'm not in the hotseat until 3am, but things are bananas over here.
I imagine everyone starts losing their shit right around 11pm Eastern which is when 90% of the polls are closed

Also I voted, five minute wait because I waited till the lines died down and I'm in a Republican county so no voter suppression for me.

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White Haven wrote:You know, Dalton, saying things are bananas isn't even half as funny with your field-artillery avatar compared to how it used to be. :lol:
Ha! You're right, of course. The Librarian just wasn't doing it for me, so it was time for some AC/DC goodness.
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Its going to be interesting watching the results come in on Yahoo since I lack a TV :P

I'm hopeful that Obama will win, but we will see.
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At this point Obama is a pretty sure thing. If we give him every state where 538 predicts he has at least a 90% of winning, the electoral map looks like this, and Obama wins with 275.
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Did anyone else's polling station have a list of candidates that were on other state ballots but not your own? Maine had Stein, Johnson, and I think someone else on the ballot, and listed Anderson, Ron Paul, and another candidate in the write in list.
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weemadando wrote:How the fuck do we let you still be a country?

1.5hrs queuing to vote? We've got compulsory voting and I have never waited for more than 15 minutes. Usually its only 1-5.
Neither have I. I voted during what you'd expect would be peak hours at my polling place, and there was a five minute wait.
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