Yeah. The new generation is certainly more liberal on social issues (hence why same-sex marriage is winning), but don't be too excited and think that they'd be liberal on everything. The Tea Party to some extent IS made up of younger guys.Crossroads Inc. wrote:Exactly correct, the Myth of saying: "People are Liberal when they are young, then they grow conservative when they get old" is present because for the past 50 years that has been true, but only in terms of the older population and the baby boomers. Most of the current "Old" were peopel who grew up as conservative, went through the 60's and 70's and became activists, but then settled down and went back to being conservatives.
However the new "aging" population is by and large a group that comes from far more progressive households. They may identify as "conservative" but their beliefs are already radically different from those of just 20 years ago.
What does it take for the GOP to reconsider their position?
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Re: What does it take for the GOP to reconsider their positi
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And all indications at least the GOP voters are not thinking they were too conservative.
Only our side adheres to the "Mr. Nice Guy" standard (except when it comes to our own primaries against our own guys - then it's go for the jugular). None of the base wanted to hear Romney repeat over and over again that Obama is a nice guy.
Here we are watching this "enemy from within" (Obama) destroy our beloved, distinctly American institutions and traditions, not to mention the Constitution, with a wrecking ball, yet we're supposed to accept the mantra, "Obama is a nice guy." We watch he and "Michelle Antoinette" jet around, spending more in a year than the Royal family of Britain, while Americans lose their homes, their retirement, their jobs, yet we're supposed to accept that Obama's a nice guy. We watch the favoritism, the balkanizing via race baiting, the crony capitalism, the laziness, the extravagant taxpayer subsidies handed to nonviable businesses, the taxpayer capital given to overseas oil drilling and car manufacturing, yet we're to nod our heads in agreement that Obama is a nice guy. Our children and grandchildren now owe a debt so large that they will be born as indentured servants to the government, never experiencing the American dream, yet we're to embrace that Obama's a nice guy. I could go on and on.
I wanted a scrappy fighter who would lay out the Constitution's vision of freedom and the American dream while holding the failures of the other side's ideology and policies up against the wall. Benghazi, Solyndra, Abound, Fisker, money for Brazilians to drill for oil to a company that profits George Soros while stopping our own quest for fossil fuels, the cover-ups - pull that heavy curtain back to expose the rotting, fetid underbelly that is the Obama Administration.
Lay the unvarnished, harsh truth out there and let the People decide. Don't coddle the opposition while he and his media rip you to shreds with untruths. It just makes you look weak and contemptible.
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Romney shell shocked. It is hard to imagine that the country built on freedom would become so Liberal. The loss he felt was not his own but for our country and way of life. The takers have over taken the makers. Eventually you will get it. Government copied religion and now it wants to separate itself from that. When morality slides it slides. Racism, religious prejudice are alive in well in America. They just flipped sides. Look at the polling from Philadelphia. The country is in deep deep trouble. Business will not expand. Our currency will erode. Debt will build and the futility of our lives will be exposed. The one thing that atheist and Christians agree on. Ashes to Ashes and dust to dust. The gravy train ticket has Hell as a price.
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What are you quoting MJ? These seem little better than quotes from a comments section on a news story. The second one is barely comprehensible in spots. Is this an op ed, or just some wackos opinion on the net?
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The latter. But it goes to show it's not just the GOP politicians that are the problem. The people that vote for republicans feel the same way, that the Republicans were not conservative enough, and that even moderate left of center is unacceptable.
Can we really expect the GOP to change it's position, when their base will not?
Can we really expect the GOP to change it's position, when their base will not?
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Only Ron Paul's movement. And they can't even win in the Republican Party. They are very energetic but also very small. That's the future of the Republicans if they don't change.Zinegata wrote: Yeah. The new generation is certainly more liberal on social issues (hence why same-sex marriage is winning), but don't be too excited and think that they'd be liberal on everything. The Tea Party to some extent IS made up of younger guys.
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Over at HPCA they're already settling straight into denial mode and practically inventing new conspiracy theories while doubling down on the old ones. Not all of them, but many.
They simply did not get trounced badly enough this time around for the attitudes to change.
They simply did not get trounced badly enough this time around for the attitudes to change.
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GOP message? Why don't they just come out of the closet: FASCISTS R' US –Patrick Degan
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The best is still Karl Rove having to 'splain himself to his bilked billionaires. These are people who could easily have him killed.Edi wrote:Over at HPCA they're already settling straight into denial mode and practically inventing new conspiracy theories while doubling down on the old ones. Not all of them, but many.
They simply did not get trounced badly enough this time around for the attitudes to change.
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Re: What does it take for the GOP to reconsider their positi
I especially liked the calls to disenfranchise everyone that disagrees with them. Doubly for those that thought a poll test would be to their benefit.Edi wrote:Over at HPCA they're already settling straight into denial mode and practically inventing new conspiracy theories while doubling down on the old ones. Not all of them, but many.
They simply did not get trounced badly enough this time around for the attitudes to change.
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I still loved Megyn Kelly asking Karl Rove, "Is this just math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?", completely oblivious to the joke she made out of him with that one question.Flagg wrote:The best is still Karl Rove having to 'splain himself to his bilked billionaires. These are people who could easily have him killed.
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