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Tolya wrote:It just shows that GOP are really bad losers. I don't remember New York wanting to leave when Dubya was put into office.
Well there was the "Emigrate to Canada" crowd, but then that is a personal choice rather than treason.
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There were some maps after 2004 showing the northern blue states and west coast all as part of Canada.
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Flagg wrote:There were some maps after 2004 showing the northern blue states and west coast all as part of Canada.
Your thinking of the United States of Jesusland

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Mr Bean wrote:
Flagg wrote:There were some maps after 2004 showing the northern blue states and west coast all as part of Canada.
Your thinking of the United States of Jesusland
United States of Canada vs. Jesusland. It even has its own wikipedia page.
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Someone posted this on Facebook:
Civil war map
Interesting parallels there, even if the election map needs updating 8)
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gigabytelord wrote:Oh, it would be very easy to oppose, because people like me would be perfectly willing to shove a shotgun right up the ass of every motherfucker who thinks this a a good idea, I know it's only a civilian petition, and that it's not supported by the state legislators of the states in question, but if it were...
Well if they want another civil war then that's just what they'll get.
I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking about stupid petitions. I mean if you had clear majorities of the population and legislature of a state in favour of peaceful secession I would be very surprised if the US government would be willing to use military force to stop them. Look at Scotland in the UK. I doubt any secession attempt 150 years ago would have been permitted, but now if it votes to leave it will leave.
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Teebs wrote:
gigabytelord wrote:Oh, it would be very easy to oppose, because people like me would be perfectly willing to shove a shotgun right up the ass of every motherfucker who thinks this a a good idea, I know it's only a civilian petition, and that it's not supported by the state legislators of the states in question, but if it were...
Well if they want another civil war then that's just what they'll get.
I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking about stupid petitions. I mean if you had clear majorities of the population and legislature of a state in favour of peaceful secession I would be very surprised if the US government would be willing to use military force to stop them. Look at Scotland in the UK. I doubt any secession attempt 150 years ago would have been permitted, but now if it votes to leave it will leave.
It'll probably be just like last time. The states leave, indecision and paralysis hold right up until the traitors attack federal property. At which point they'll wish it was Sherman and not a B2 Spirit coming.
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Or the secessionists may start getting violent against loyalists in 'their' states, triggering a federal intervention. That's pretty likely; most rebellions are very hard on loyalists. See the American Revolution and the fate of the Tories...
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Look at the margins Mitt won some of those states by. We're talking at most 20-30 point spreads, so good luck forcing over a third of your population down the rabbit hole.
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By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | November 13th, 2012 at 11:32 AM |

Barack Obama won the election.

He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.

Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square.

We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union. If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you.

We have a place for you here if you wish to continue the fight against Republicans in Washington like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell who’d be happy to sell us down the river to keep their power, no matter how devoid of principle or sound policy. You have a place here if you’d like to keep fighting the Democrats who are intent on further stifling economic growth, pushing forward with Obamacare, bankrupting the nation, and siding with teachers unions against kids who deserve better.

Too many people have spent the past four years obsessed with birth certificates. Now they are obsessed with voter fraud conspiracies, talk of secession, and supposed election changing news stories if only we had known.

So let’s add dabblers in this latest nuttiness to birthers as a category of people we do not welcome at RedState. Our aim is to beat the Democrats, not beat a retreat to a Confederacy that Generals Grant and Sherman rent asunder well over a hundred years ago.

Even here at RedState, while we may not much care for him, President Obama is still our President and we are still quite happily citizens of the United States. If we must drain this fever swamp that’s taken hold of a few people on the right over this past week before we can drain the swamp in Washington, so be it.

All others need not apply.

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Sanity from the right? Obama bitchslapped them into our dimension!
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The saner conservatives seem to be waking up from the Kool-aid induced fever-dream peddled by the likes of Karl Rove and realizing that their party has been taken over by the most bug-nutty craziest fucking loons in American politics.
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