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Gay People Living in Fear in Greece
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What was supposed to be a fun evening for Stamatis Peramatzis, turned out to be a nightmare. As the 39-year-old was walking out of a parking lot together with his partner in an Athens mall, a man out of nowhere appeared and screamed: "Faggots, we will kick you out of Greece and you will never come back".

"I tried to ignore him, hoping he would just go away," Peramatzis recalls. "But he didn't. He came back together with another guy, dressed in black, yelling they were going to teach us a lesson." But the two men were lucky. A security guard came to their rescue and the worst did not happen.

Peramatzis, who works for an international NGO in Athens, did not report the incident to the police. "My boyfriend was shocked and scared. We knew that the police would not do much to assist us".

Such is the new reality of being a gay in Greece today, where economic turmoil and a rise in national fervour has resulted in a spike in hate crimes against members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community (LGBT).

Last August, 25-year old Stefanos Agelastos, a science student and gay activist, was accompanying a friend to a bus stop when two men on a motorcycle asked them if they were gay. When Agelastos acknowledged he was, the men attacked them.

"Suddenly, they started punching and kicking us. We were shocked. I managed to grab my mobile phone and call the police."

Agelastos bitterly recalls that not one of the passersby came to their rescue. "People just ignored what was happening. Only a shop keeper from Pakistan and a drug user who was wandering in the street came to help". And though the young man reported the incident to the police, his assailants were never identified.

Although Greece has antidiscrimination laws protecting gays in employment, there are no hate crimes per se in its criminal code. Very few cases are being reported to the police because gay men and women fear further discrimination. At the same time the police remain poorly trained to handle increased homophobia and in most cases encourage the complainers to drop the charges.

Of four such cases filed since September in Athens, not a single case has been prosecuted.

"Homophobia is not something new. Greek society has always been profoundly conservative and oppressive," says Agelastos, who now lives in Spain with his partner. "Some years back, when I kissed my boyfriend in a public bus, passengers protested and verbally abused us."
This is not surprising. In 2003, a Greek television station was fined 100,000 euros for showing two men kissing, while in October this year, Greece's national broadcaster E.R.T. cut a scene of a gay kiss from the evening British television series Downton Abbey.

"Before the financial crisis, people were tolerant as long as things were not visible. This tolerance was superficial. People were just too selfish," says Elena Diamantopoulou, an activist at Color Youth, a non-profit LGBT organization, adding that the root cause of discrimination is the lack of education. "There is no sex education in Greek schools and no discussion on sexual and gender identity."

However, the situation has been aggravated with the financial crisis that has hit Greece hard over the last three years, activists say.

The official unemployment rate has reached 25%t and half of Greece's youth are without work. Wages have fallen by a third since 2009 and more than three million live in this nation of 11 million with less than 300 euros per month, while prices in basic commodities have skyrocketed.

This increase in poverty and political instability has given rise to the far right Golden Dawn party which until recently had been largely obscure, winning 18 seats in last June's parliamentary elections.

Legitimized by the media, Golden Dawn has since emerged as a 'player' in Greek politics by playing on real social anxieties and turning the country's most vulnerable into scapegoats to the current crisis. After beating up immigrants-or anyone they presume not to be Greek-along with stepping up their presence on the streets, Golden Dawn MPs are now leading gangs of supporters to raid and smash migrants stalls in the local flea markets.

In October, supporters and MPs of Golden Dawn, attacked a theater showing Terrence McNally's Corpus Christi - a play depicting Jesus and his apostles as gay men in Texas - and forcing the show to be cancelled. As the actors cowered inside, calling frantically the police, one Golden Dawn MP was filmed outside, calling the actors "little faggots" and warning that "your time has come, you little whores".

"Homophobic attacks have always existed in Greece. In most cases they go unreported, as there is a general fear of reporting them to the police," says Andrea Gilbert, a spokesperson of the Athens Pride, a gay rights organization. "However over the last year there is a clear increase in antigay attacks. The perpetrators now act in seeming impunity and although we are not always able to name them as members of the Golden Dawn, their attacks follow the same patterns of the Golden Dawn's attacks against migrants. These people hate migrants, gays, foreigners, women. They hate everyone".

So bad is the current situation that some have equated the attacks as similar to what happened in the early days of the Nazi party in Germany, when fascist gangs of uniformed men openly attacked gays, Jews, and others deemed socially undesirable.

"People are afraid to go out anymore. They don't dare hold hands in public. The attacks deprive them of basic human rights, such as freedom of expression or the right to walk freely in the streets," says Gilbert.

Earlier in November, a gang of 12 men dressed in black who identified themselves as members of Golden Dawn physically attacked and chased volunteers distributing anti-hate flyers in Gazi, a gay-friendly area of Athens.

"How can we ask our volunteers to go out and distribute flyers to the public? How can we send a 19 or a 20-year-old, out in the streets to raise awareness only to be physically assaulted by a gang of Golden Dawn supporters?" asks Gilbert.

But what is even more worrying now is the escalation of the attacks. Since August, there have been at least two homophobic attacks per month - and those are only the ones officially reported, although activists believe this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Today, gangs riding motorbikes and dressed in black, often carrying knifes, patrol the gay-friendly areas of the Greek capital, verbally and physically attacking those they assume to be gay, although the Greek police is not reporting any official figures. "If we look at the big picture, these attacks do not come as a surprise. The whole attitude of the Greek state and Greek society is racist," says Diamantopolou of Color Youth.

Only a few months ago, Greek authorities published photos and the personal data of HIV-positive sex workers, which resulted in a public outcry. The former Greek health minister Andreas Loverdos went so far as to propose the deportation of foreign sex workers with HIV saying that "the disease is transmitted from illegal immigrants to the Greek client, and consequently to the Greek family".

But, despite rising levels of fear in Greece's gay community, many remain resolute, noting that the recent attacks have actually made people more determined and unified.

"We will never abandon the fight and we will never leave the streets," says Diamantopoulou. "I will be there each day distributing anti-hate flyers and raising awareness. We came a long way, and we won't let a bunch of thugs intimidate us."
How popular is Golden Dawn becoming? And how will the rest of the EU react to this, if at all?
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It's a pretty sad thing when all it takes for anyone community to turn against minorities is economic upheaval.
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There is always a small amount of assholes anywhere that cause trouble like this. The problem is sometimes they get normal sane people to act the same way. Greece is 11 million or so that means even if only 1 percent are bigots that's still over 100 thousand idiots.
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To illustrate how bad greece has become:

A friend of mine who shall remain nameless (because it is not my place to ID people) had parents vacationing in greece. His family is jewish. Gangs of Golden Dawn assholes has recently started beating jews and gay people openly in the streets of athens while the police watched. Needless to say, said friend was worried.

After 5 days of being worried sick, his parents finally managed to call him (they were using a somewhat touchy sat phone). They had managed to escape unharmed to--and I use their words here--Serbia, where it is safe.

Yes. That's right. If you are gay or jewish, you are better off in the fucking balkans than you are in greece right now.
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ray245 wrote:It's a pretty sad thing when all it takes for anyone community to turn against minorities is economic upheaval.
You mean you're surprised having ones way of live either destroyed or overturned produces stress or violence?

Most of the world is a few meals from chaos. Some people just forget how thin the veneer of civilisation is. I live in Australia, and I can see how few steps we are from an Australia where my wife is in physical danger. Australia hasn't even spent decades destroying itself, and hasn't been hit by such turmoil as Greece.
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Stark is right. We had some bad experience in recent memory like the Cronulla riots and gangs of thugs going out on Australia Day waving made in China flags showing they are more Aussie than some other person. Because nothing screams more Australian than waving flags made in other countries, apparently.

And we also have yellow journalism stirring up shit. Like in the following thread.
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Yes, people. Get used to it. You'll be hearing about Greece, Uganda and Pakistan in the same breath. This came recently from the US State Department, regarding travel in Greece.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/greec ... greece.pdf

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Just as I got done being outraged and confused at what Greece is devolving into, I came across this news article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inner.html
A woman was savagely attacked on Thanksgiving by her girlfriend’s brother during a family gathering.

Mallory Owens was attending the dinner in Mobile, Alabama, with girlfriend Alex Hawkins when the family affair turned violent.

According to reports, Miss Hawkins' brother Travis did not approve of their relationship and attacked Miss Owens after dinner, allegedly knocking her down and pummeling her with his fists.
So yeah. It was private rather than public and personal rather than impersonal, but still. Parts of the US are just as bad as the Neo-Nazi morass.
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FaxModem1 wrote:How popular is Golden Dawn becoming? And how will the rest of the EU react to this, if at all?
They are becoming a bit more popular, but it's more case of underfunded police being filled with right-wingers. Plus, frankly, you could write similar article about any southern border of Russia, EU, USA, they all have a lot of religious right winger nationalist fanatics along southern axis. Weren't two lesbian girls shot in USA recently?

And react how exactly? There might be some accusations from foreign press, or NGOs, but that's it. Unlike what paranoid UK press would tell you, Greece is sovereign country, with sovereign police, and there is no EU version of FBI or anything. Anything will be done by them and them alone.
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Yes. That's right. If you are gay or jewish, you are better off in the fucking balkans than you are in greece right now.
Um, Greece is Balkan country. Always been. Also, that's peculiar choice, did they travel by plane or run through whole another country escaping? Greece has no border with Serbia...
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Bright wrote:Just as I got done being outraged and confused at what Greece is devolving into, I came across this news article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inner.html
A woman was savagely attacked on Thanksgiving by her girlfriend’s brother during a family gathering.

Mallory Owens was attending the dinner in Mobile, Alabama, with girlfriend Alex Hawkins when the family affair turned violent.

According to reports, Miss Hawkins' brother Travis did not approve of their relationship and attacked Miss Owens after dinner, allegedly knocking her down and pummeling her with his fists.
So yeah. It was private rather than public and personal rather than impersonal, but still. Parts of the US are just as bad as the Neo-Nazi morass.
What the hell? Are you really that offended that Americans are talking badly about a country 2000km away from your country?

Because misplaced nationalism is the only reason possible that you think this story even compares to the Greek story. In case you didn't notice, the endings are a little bit different. :roll:
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Bright wrote:So yeah. It was private rather than public and personal rather than impersonal, but still. Parts of the US are just as bad as the Neo-Nazi morass.
No. I love how you clearly state the differences between the cases before reaching a completely different conclusion. In one case people know each other and at least the attacking fucktard had the decency to do it in private. In the other case we've got a psycho who just walks up to a guy he's never seen before (or since, in case you think the matter will reach a court) and pummels the shit out of him. There's also another difference here, the little fact that the police snatched him up and he's facing a long sentence. I'd also point out that the Alabama policemen did not vote for neonazis in numbers exceeding 50% of the force, but you get the idea, don't you dear?
Irbis wrote:Um, Greece is Balkan country. Always been.
I think he was talking politics and culture instead of geography. But still, Greek society is thoroughly Balkan. We just had a bit more money until recently.
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Bright wrote:Just as I got done being outraged and confused at what Greece is devolving into, I came across this news article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inner.html
A woman was savagely attacked on Thanksgiving by her girlfriend’s brother during a family gathering.

Mallory Owens was attending the dinner in Mobile, Alabama, with girlfriend Alex Hawkins when the family affair turned violent.

According to reports, Miss Hawkins' brother Travis did not approve of their relationship and attacked Miss Owens after dinner, allegedly knocking her down and pummeling her with his fists.
So yeah. It was private rather than public and personal rather than impersonal, but still. Parts of the US are just as bad as the Neo-Nazi morass.
You might have picked an example that has actually been confirmed as gaybashing - Mallory Owens has, herself, said she doesn't think she was attacked for being gay.

This is ignoring the other objections to this story being used as you have used it.
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Um, Greece is Balkan country. Always been. Also, that's peculiar choice, did they travel by plane or run through whole another country escaping? Greece has no border with Serbia...
I was thinking more politics and culture. Not geography.

As for how they got to Serbia, that is complicated. It was less an escape and more of an accelerated time table induced by insanity. They were with a friend. Who happened to have a yacht. They had initially planned on staying in Greece and then sailing up the Dalmatian coast to Croatia, and then go through Bosnia to visit serbia somewhat later than what actually happened. Still an escape. Just a more pleasant one than I initially thought, apparently. I had to ask about the details.
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