How exactly did Kirk die?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-12 09:45pm

I keep hearing about how Kirk's death was so ignoble and stupid and such. I've never seen 'Generations'(and never intend to...) so what exactly happens to cause his death?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-03-12 09:51pm

He gets pushed off a tower, doesn't he?

Wow, my first PST post.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-03-12 09:58pm

I think that the true fans can safely say that he didn't die. The Kirk that died in Generations (IF that movie exists in your timeline) was a facsimile or echo of Kirk that spent time in the Ribbon, much like Guinan was. That's it and I will NOT entertain silly notions that the real Kirk died falling off a bridge.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-03-12 10:06pm

Not every hero has a glorious death.

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-03-12 10:07pm

Well, his original death called for him to be shot in the back.

Which would probably be more apt, considering what came later.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-12 10:10pm

I have blocked most of Generations out of my mind. The human mind has a propensity for blocking traumatic experiences.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-03-12 11:39pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I keep hearing about how Kirk's death was so ignoble and stupid and such. I've never seen 'Generations'(and never intend to...) so what exactly happens to cause his death?

Massive organ displacement coupled with sudden deceleration syndrom. In a parralel universe, Picard fell with the bridge and Kirk beamed up to the Enterprise and took command. He then started a 10 year campaign to restore the Federation to its original state and take power away from the super commie fucknuts who have dominated the Fed Council for 70 years.......

......Or so I have heard.......

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-03-13 12:05am

Kirk SHOULD have died on the bridge, the battle bridge of the Enterprise-D as it self destructed to blow up Lursa and Betor's commandship.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-03-13 12:10am

Kirk should have died in bed with a women.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-03-13 01:13am

Kirk is on a bridge on a planet. He gets a remote control and decloaks the missile that threatens all. The bridge then snaps (having taken severe damage from a disrupter) and falls down, taking Kirk with it. Picard saves the day, then when the Bad Guy is killed, he goes down and shares a few last words with Kirk. Then Kirk dies.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-03-13 01:50am

Baron Mordo wrote:Well, his original death called for him to be shot in the back.

Which would probably be more apt, considering what came later.

The Really dumd thing was that while the bad dude is dealing with Kirk Picard could have easily stoped the missile(it hadn't been cloaked yet) he had to come back and be all heroic and save Kirk in an attempt to prove TNG has balls. The line if I remember right your dead naterally would be followed by Kirk smuggly saying "then it doesn't matter if you kill me does it." I think Kirk's annoyed tone in his voice when he asked I thought you were going to the launcher seemed to indicate THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HAD A GUN TO MY HEAD YOU MORON! Why did you not do your job and leave me to my job of distracting the bad guy!

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-13 03:01am

HemlockGrey wrote:I keep hearing about how Kirk's death was so ignoble and stupid and such. I've never seen 'Generations'(and never intend to...) so what exactly happens to cause his death?

He fell of a bridge

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-03-13 06:20am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
He fell of a bridge

::::curls up in a ball chanting "generations never happned" over and over:::

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-13 06:28am

Actually, he fell off *with* the bridge.

Doesn't make his death any more PATHETIC. Ugh.

Fucking atrocity of a film.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-13 06:44am

*sings*
Hey, London bridge is falling down, falling down!

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-03-13 07:07am

Then someone writes a novel where the Romulans and Borg steal his friggin corpse and assimilate it or some shit like that.

Wrath · Post by **Wrath** » 2003-03-13 08:30am

Then someone writes a novel where the Romulans and Borg steal his friggin corpse and assimilate it or some shit like that.

that was william shatner, the books called "the return" not really a bad book, even if totally unbelieveable.

firstly kirk goes on a mass campian of beating up all the command crew of the enterprise, work, data, gordi ect..., trying to find and kill picard.

when kirk, spock and picard finally get together and settle there differences, they figure out vger was repaired by the borg and set on its quest to find it creator, and since spock mind melded with vger he knows where the borg home world is.

so they set of through transwarp, in a defiant class ship, to stop a massed borg romulan fleet from attacking the federation. they come out of transwarp, take on 20-30 borg cubes + 50-60 romulan ships , distroy the borg home world and a few borg cubes, and go home and live happy ever after.

hmmm wait there did I say unbelieveable sounds almost like a voyager ep

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-03-13 09:15am

"We did it, Ned! We killed the entire Viet Cong army!"

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-13 12:36pm

Wrath wrote:
Then someone writes a novel where the Romulans and Borg steal his friggin corpse and assimilate it or some shit like that.
that was william shatner, the books called "the return" not really a bad book, even if totally unbelieveable.

firstly kirk goes on a mass campian of beating up all the command crew of the enterprise, work, data, gordi ect..., trying to find and kill picard.

when kirk, spock and picard finally get together and settle there differences, they figure out vger was repaired by the borg and set on its quest to find it creator, and since spock mind melded with vger he knows where the borg home world is.

so they set of through transwarp, in a defiant class ship, to stop a massed borg romulan fleet from attacking the federation. they come out of transwarp, take on 20-30 borg cubes + 50-60 romulan ships , distroy the borg home world and a few borg cubes, and go home and live happy ever after.

hmmm wait there did I say unbelieveable sounds almost like a voyager ep

A typical Shatner wank-fest to get Kirk back. Did you expect anything else?

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2003-03-13 04:41pm

Heheheh... Kirk died because he was too heavy and a bridge collapsed under him.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-03-13 06:27pm

Shatner didn't write his books...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-03-13 09:07pm

The hero who had fought Klingons, Romulans, Tholians, Gorn, etc. etc. etc., screwed a vast array of alien women, ripped his shirt on a dozen planets and worlds, led the greatest crew in the history of the UFP, and valiantly saved the Earth on two non-consecutive occasions from outright destruction, died after falling off a catwalk.

And people wonder why Trekkies don't like Kirk's death.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2003-03-13 10:17pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I keep hearing about how Kirk's death was so ignoble and stupid and such. I've never seen 'Generations'(and never intend to...) so what exactly happens to cause his death?

DAMMIT!!! KIRK IS NOT DEAD!!!! HE DID NOT DIE!!!!

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-03-13 11:19pm

Master of Ossus wrote:The hero who had fought Klingons, Romulans, Tholians, Gorn, etc. etc. etc., screwed a vast array of alien women, ripped his shirt on a dozen planets and worlds, led the greatest crew in the history of the UFP, and valiantly saved the Earth on two non-consecutive occasions from outright destruction, died after falling off a catwalk.

And people wonder why Trekkies don't like Kirk's death.

Well Generations is the movie that killed Star Trek for me

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-03-13 11:25pm

Hell it was pretty much down there with utter shit

And sadly they couldn't even try for him dying alone(which is particular point I liked in ST:V...added something to the character)

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