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Someone in their government censored it out of existence?
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There are special areas in NK designated for SK and broader tourism. I don't know if NK people can enter those zones to meet separated family etc, but change is occurring.
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Ahriman238 wrote: Kim Jong Il's government had a website to encourage tourism to North Korea, and to dispel the vicious propaganda surrounding their wonderful country. 50 bucks would get you a 'Friend of North Korea' badge. It was a real laugh, but now I can't find the site.
Here. It's still around. It looks like they finally kidnapped a decent web developer.
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We still do. You almost get the feeling that Kim Il Sung was given a copy of 1984 in Korean and asked if he could make it come true.
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Their shop is hilarious. They even have item lists like "propaganda 1", "propaganda 2" etc.
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Thanas wrote:Their shop is hilarious. They even have item lists like "propaganda 1", "propaganda 2" etc.
That might be a translation issue; I've heard that the Chinese have this problem with their "Ministry of Propaganda", because "propaganda" is the nearest English equivalent to a word that means something close to "public service announcement", or at least has fewer negative connotations. Maybe Korean has a similar word?
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Dude, they are propaganda pieces. Just look at the shop.
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The general evils of the NK government don't bother me near so much as their avarice. 46 dollars for a T-shirt? I don't care if they nuke America, but such blatant robbery is unacceptable.
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I love that it's a cafepress site. Capitalist pigdog middleware is apparently good enough for Juche.
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Stark wrote:There are special areas in NK designated for SK and broader tourism. I don't know if NK people can enter those zones to meet separated family etc, but change is occurring.
I spoke to a travel agent about this recently. Apparently people like hotel and restaurant staff tend to be Chinese. North Koreans staff things such as local tourist places, and tour guiding.

Of course, this could all change in a few years.
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Zaune wrote:
Thanas wrote:Their shop is hilarious. They even have item lists like "propaganda 1", "propaganda 2" etc.
That might be a translation issue; I've heard that the Chinese have this problem with their "Ministry of Propaganda", because "propaganda" is the nearest English equivalent to a word that means something close to "public service announcement", or at least has fewer negative connotations.
That sounds like it happened the other way around. In China, the party line has been official truth for sixty years, and the language has probably shifted a bit- so that which we call "state propaganda" is their very definition of "public service announcement," whether it's distorted to serve state interests or not.
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In China, there's "propaganda" (which coincides with the verb "to disseminate and spread") and specifically "political propaganda" which means the same as English "propaganda". I don't think that's a modern linquistic development, though Lusy can always correct me if I'm wrong.
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All the items named propaganda are, in fact, inspirational posters of the Beloved Leader and/or Korean Army. If the name fits...
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Simon_Jester wrote:That sounds like it happened the other way around. In China, the party line has been official truth for sixty years, and the language has probably shifted a bit- so that which we call "state propaganda" is their very definition of "public service announcement," whether it's distorted to serve state interests or not.
Jesus christ. Have you considered that the word 'propaganda' in English only has bad connotations because of European history? Like Stas says the languages are different and the cultural context is different. Its no more strange or unusual (culturally) than other structural language differences.
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pretty good exchange rate on ICBMs for them, 1 will get you a hundred.
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