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Wait.. what? This isn't the onion.

Machine gun fire from military helicopters flying over downtown Miami Fl. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... i9ioCbqJCU
If you see military helicopters buzzing through your neighborhood sometime soon, don’t freak out. It’s probably a military training exercise.
Miami-Dade police sent out a warning Monday that multiple police agencies would be providing support for a joint military training exercise somewhere over Miami and elsewhere in the county. The exercise will include the use of military helicopters.
When and where will this happen? Police didn’t say.
The police statement said the training locations and times “were carefully selected to minimize negatively impacting the citizens of the City of Miami/Miami-Dade County and their daily routines.”
But it also acknowledged that there would be some impact on residents.
“This is routine training conducted by military personnel designed to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirement,” the police statement said.
This isn’t the first time such training has been done in Miami. In April 2011, military helicopters buzzed through Brickell, leading to sleepless nights for some people and a lot of griping on social media about it.

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I can understand that they didn't want to give some militia fucknut time to pick a good sniping position, but surely they could let the locals know what was happening a couple of hours before they started so nobody panicked?
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This isn't suspicious at all. :rolls eyes: This is basically exposing people to the idea of surprise "training exercises" so that if the need arises, it wouldn't be questioned in the future.
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The US Military has been doing similar exercises since at least the 80s and the protests after the fact never seem to go anywhere. I think this is the first time in a long time they've done it in a major city though. At least this time the police and local officials are in on it, unlike that time in Key West.

For that matter, isn't this releasing the news a few days ahead that military training will be taking place at some point and time in the county?
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*shrug* Canada does this all the time, we have for decades. We even put notices in the local paper advising about the increase in noise and activity.
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But the Canadian love their government. Its different, I swear!
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I most certainly do not love my government.

That said, if we had been training to control urban areas then I might agree with you. All of ours was using rural areas and small towns to simulate conditions in various countries.
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That video sounds like about one night a week in my part of Phily, between the constant police helicopter activity and kids with firecrackers the block over. Military choppers fly around some too though, largest group I ever saw was nine of them from the army and marines flying at about 250ft during daylight. I've seen similar sized groups at tree top height in the near suburbs.

Good reason exists not to announce things like this, keep away hoards of gawking people.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Good reason exists not to announce things like this, keep away hoards of gawking people.
Versus dealing with everyone in five miles dialling 911 when they hear the gunfire and think it's a gang shootout or a Chinese invasion or something. Damned if you do, damned if you don't I suppose.
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You'd get hoards of idiots calling the police anyway, which is far less of a problem in general then actually having to deploy huge numbers of police for crowd control. Blanks aren't audible at anything like that distance in a city anyway, nor are the helicopters.
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Aaron MkII wrote:I most certainly do not love my government.

That said, if we had been training to control urban areas then I might agree with you. All of ours was using rural areas and small towns to simulate conditions in various countries.
Compared to us, you do.

Left or Right, you find absolutely no shortage of people who are damn near treasonous in wanting to bring down the current govt.

Its insane and perfectly sensible at the same time. Which only makes it worse.
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Point of order:

In Article 3 Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is defined in the following way:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
So unless you can prove that there are large numbers of enemy agents masquerading as citizens, a little less of this talk of treason, please.
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Dominarch's Hope wrote:
Aaron MkII wrote:I most certainly do not love my government.

That said, if we had been training to control urban areas then I might agree with you. All of ours was using rural areas and small towns to simulate conditions in various countries.
Compared to us, you do.

Left or Right, you find absolutely no shortage of people who are damn near treasonous in wanting to bring down the current govt.

Its insane and perfectly sensible at the same time. Which only makes it worse.
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Esquire wrote:Point of order:

In Article 3 Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is defined in the following way:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
So unless you can prove that there are large numbers of enemy agents masquerading as citizens, a little less of this talk of treason, please.
A little less talk of treason, a little more action!
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I think I was right next to this whole thing. It was a simulated hostage situation inside a concert hall down here and that evening I was working next door in the main theatre of the same complex, the Arsht Center for the Performing Arts. I was inside basically the entire time, but some of my co-workers said they saw 6 helicopters (3 Blackhawks + 3 smaller ones) and some guys practicing fast roping down the side of a tower. We were told it was the DoHS doing it, not the military though. It was decently late in the evening, 10 or 11 ish, and they had the entire area locked down. We had to arrange with the local cops/personal to let us out of the perimeter when we got off work, since they were not letting anyone in or out (not letting us out would have been a dick move, we got out around 11, we were back in at 8 am). As the article stated, this is not the first time they have used this area for such things. Just like last time, they used one of our parking lots as the landing site for the helicopters.
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