Troops mistakenly kill two Israelis

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-03-13 02:02pm

Troops mistakenly kill two Israelis
Arafat delays approval of prime minister's bill

The Toronto star

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PNEI HEVER, West Bank (AP) — Israeli forces backed by a helicopter gunship mistakenly shot and killed two Israelis they believed to be Palestinian gunmen today, the army said.
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, meanwhile, delayed the signing of a bill that forces him to share power with a prime minister. Arafat asked for two procedural changes, including retaining the right to convene Cabinet ministers.

The shooting took place in the remote West Bank hills about three miles southeast of the town of Hebron.

Israeli forces were scouring the area because of intelligence warnings that Palestinians were planning an attack there, the army said in a statement.

A foot patrol spotted an armed man getting into a car and, after the warnings failed to stop him from trying to drive away, shot and killed him with rifle fire, the army said.

Troops spotted another armed man running from the car and radioed for backup from a helicopter gunship that shot and killed the man.

Both men were later identified as Israelis. The military expressed regret for the killings and said it was investigating.

The Web site of the Haaretz daily said the two men were security guards who kept watch over an antenna used for research, and that the men had pulled off to the side of the road to make coffee.

Bullets riddled a white station wagon's windshield, engine grill and hood. The word "security" was written in Hebrew letters on both doors and the hood of the vehicle.

The incident took place on a hillside road just outside the Jewish settlement of Pnei Hever. Spots of blood soaked the muddy ground and rescuers put the remains into plastic bags.

In the past 29 months of Israeli-Palestinian fighting, Israeli troops have killed dozens of wanted Palestinian militants in targeted attacks.

In the West Bank town of Ramallah, Arafat aides confirmed the Palestinian leader has asked for changes in legislation creating the post of prime minister.

The Palestinian legislature approved the bill on Monday, as part of U.S.-sought reform efforts aimed at curbing Arafat's sweeping powers. The prime minister will be able to form a new Cabinet and supervise the work of the ministers. The prime minister also convenes and chairs Cabinet meetings.

After two readings in parliament, the bill was given to Arafat for a signature on Tuesday.

Arafat, who holds the title of president of the Palestinian Authority, has asked that the president - and not only the prime minister - have the right to convene the Cabinet, and that the president can attend Cabinet meetings.

The legislature's next scheduled meeting is Monday.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-13 02:06pm

There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-13 02:08pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads

Sorry. Blame me. I told him to post it. I giggled at the funnyness of the
part where they waxed the wrong people.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-13 02:14pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads

Not on bringing up breaking news over there.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-13 02:21pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads
Not on bringing up breaking news over there.

That will certainly turn into another pointless banned debate? A great many I&P threads where started by random news articles.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-13 02:22pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads
Not on bringing up breaking news over there.

IIRC, it was no I/P threads unless something really big happens.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-03-13 02:28pm

IG-88E wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:There is a moratorium on Israel-Palestine threads
Not on bringing up breaking news over there.
IIRC, it was no I/P threads unless something really big happens.

The fact that Arafat is delaying the approval of a Palestinian PM is fairly big.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-13 02:31pm

Ted wrote: The fact that Arafat is delaying the approval of a Palestinian PM is fairly big.

Ah, so that one sentence is the point of this thread?

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-13 02:46pm

Heh. The IDF is an equal-opportunity indiscriminate shooter. Who would have guessed.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-13 02:54pm

Enlightenment wrote:Heh. The IDF is an equal-opportunity indiscriminate shooter. Who would have guessed.

This is hardly the first time they've shot the wrong people because of mistaken identity.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-13 05:10pm

So far, no one is discussing the morality of Israel/Palestine per se, but the mods will close this thread if it turns into yet another I/P debate.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-14 12:51am

Stormbringer wrote:This is hardly the first time they've shot the wrong people because of mistaken identity.

The majority of people 'accidentally' shot by the IDF tend to be of another religion.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-03-14 01:00am

Enlightenment wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:This is hardly the first time they've shot the wrong people because of mistaken identity.
The majority of people 'accidentally' shot by the IDF tend to be of another religion.

In fact, that could have something to do with the remarkable fact that they are occupying territory which is nearly exclusively inhabited by arabic/islamic peoples... What an amazing coincidence.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-14 10:14am

Enlightenment wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:This is hardly the first time they've shot the wrong people because of mistaken identity.
The majority of people 'accidentally' shot by the IDF tend to be of another religion.

It's a lot harder to shoot people that aren't there.

I'm of the opinion that the IDF is far too trigger happy but then again it's like police the ghetto. They have every reason to be shoot first ask question later.