Hey Sovereign, you lying sack of shit ...

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 05:58pm

People don't like to do things they don't like if they don't want to. A lot of people don't want to blow their brains out, even though all you gotta do is point and click.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 05:59pm

anarchistbunny wrote:People don't like to do things they don't like if they don't want to. A lot of people don't want to blow their brains out, even though all you gotta do is point and click.

Ok, misphrased that, I ment to say peopole usually don't do instead of don't like to do. Thinking the start of one sentance and put on the end of another.

Shut up, I'm tired.

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:02pm

Everyone seems to like to talk about me, I thought they would like to talk to me IM wise.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:04pm

It's not like we were hiding this thread to insult you behind your fucking back, unless you noticed we kept posting the link to this to try to get you to defend your fucking claims and now your doing this shit instead of debating.

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:10pm

Lets debate about this image then. How big is that rock being destroyed?

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:14pm

Sovereign wrote:Lets debate about this image then. How big is that rock being destroyed?

Thats not the point, if you want to try to debate the size of the asteroid in ESB do it in your own thread, this thread is for defending your bullshit about the Enterprise incendent.

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:17pm

Well, The debate on Enterprise is on the Size of the mountain, what I want to know is how big is this rock in ESB. It is a theory of mine.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:21pm

Sovereign wrote:Well, The debate on Enterprise is on the Size of the mountain, what I want to know is how big is this rock in ESB. It is a theory of mine.

It's a 40 meter wide asteroid vaporized by a 1/15 second burst from a light-turbolaser.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:23pm

Oh, and

*in his best(read: poor) pirate voice*

Fallacies ahoy! Matey!

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:29pm

It's a 40 meter wide asteroid vaporized by a 1/15 second burst from a light-turbolaser.

Ok, so, this rock is 40 meters, but that is based on the size of the Falcon right? But Star Wars.com says that the Falcon is 26.7 meters long. So the rock, in length, in that pic should be and really it is 26 meters long.

So it is smaller than what everyone says. So I am not the only one that missed size by a lot.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:32pm

No, the size of the asteroid is determind by the ISD in the background.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-15 06:32pm

Sovereign wrote:
It's a 40 meter wide asteroid vaporized by a 1/15 second burst from a light-turbolaser.
Ok, so, this rock is 40 meters, but that is based on the size of the Falcon right? But Star Wars.com says that the Falcon is 26.7 meters long. So the rock, in length, in that pic should be and really it is 26 meters long.

So it is smaller than what everyone says. So I am not the only one that missed size by a lot.

You do realize the rock is bigger than the Falcon, but the Falcon is used to accurately scale it? Or is this thought too big for you?

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:34pm

SirNitram wrote:
Sovereign wrote:
It's a 40 meter wide asteroid vaporized by a 1/15 second burst from a light-turbolaser.
Ok, so, this rock is 40 meters, but that is based on the size of the Falcon right? But Star Wars.com says that the Falcon is 26.7 meters long. So the rock, in length, in that pic should be and really it is 26 meters long.

So it is smaller than what everyone says. So I am not the only one that missed size by a lot.
You do realize the rock is bigger than the Falcon, but the Falcon is used to accurately scale it? Or is this thought too big for you?

Oh, so the Falcon was used. Hmmm.

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:40pm

Where does it look bigger than the Falcon?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-15 06:43pm

Sovereign wrote:Where does it look bigger than the Falcon?

I sit corrected: They are scaled against the ISD itself.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/by/astvapo2.jpg

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:46pm

I sit corrected: They are scaled against the ISD itself.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/by/astvapo2.jpg

The rock is clearly far away from the Ship.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-15 06:51pm

Sovereign wrote:
I sit corrected: They are scaled against the ISD itself.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/by/astvapo2.jpg
The rock is clearly far away from the Ship.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Power/asteroids9.jpg

That'd be why I corrected myself.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:52pm

Ok, I did some research, the length of the sauser section is 438 feet 133.5 m, the distance between the phaser banks is about 1/6.75th the length of the sauser, or 19.8 m. Now, although the beams have been show to be converging, lets say they fired perfectly straight. The base of the mountain is about 6 times the seperation of the beams at the top, that makes the base about 118.8 m wide, lets use that as the diameter,
(being generous to trek, since it would be a lot smaller since it's in no way spherical. That gives the NX 1.7 kiloton saying it was fragmented, 6.4 megatons saying it was vaporized.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:53pm

SirNitram wrote:
Sovereign wrote:Where does it look bigger than the Falcon?
I sit corrected: They are scaled against the ISD itself.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/given/by/astvapo2.jpg

WOOWOO! I was right!

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » 2003-03-15 06:55pm

This still meens it is 118.8 m vs 27.6 m.How many megatons does it take to destroy 27 meters of rock.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-15 06:58pm

Sovereign wrote:This still meens it is 118.8 m vs 27.6 m.How many megatons does it take to destroy 27 meters of rock.

He just said. 1.7 to blast it apart, which is consistant with visuals, and even quite generous.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-15 06:58pm

Sovereign wrote:Well, The debate on Enterprise is on the Size of the mountain, what I want to know is how big is this rock in ESB. It is a theory of mine.

That you can escape having your loads of bullshit destroyed by dodging the issue?

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-15 06:59pm

Your missing, the ISD vaporized the asteroid, the NX-E blew it up. Also the rock of that moon appears to be more like granite, while the asteroids in ESB were shown to be Nickle-Iron in a pervious debate.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-03-15 07:41pm

So Sovereign, since you're arguing a new topic, does that mean you've conceeded defeat regarding the Enterprise's phase cannons?

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-03-15 08:29pm

Howedar wrote:So Sovereign, since you're arguing a new topic, does that mean you've conceeded defeat regarding the Enterprise's phase cannons?

The fact that he ran away from this thread pretty much says he conceded.