jedi+ww2

[SirNitram]

*Jedi snaps fingers, raises a Greater Force Shield on both sides, slowing the bullets to such a slow speed they are mere mosquistos. Then, throws the Dora into her support crew*

Ha, that would be funny, considering Dora was never deployed at Stalingrad

But why throw a lesser penis-envy-gun?

[Admiral Griffith]

In open combat they'd most likely be worse than useless. I doubt a Jedi could deflect a string of bullets from a machine gun, probably use their precog to dodge, or use the Force to shove the bullets aside (I always think of that chick from MGS2 when I say that ). They'd be fodder for artillery. They wouldn't be too good with stealth, once in combat: big glowly blade kinda gives you away. Its not as if there was too much melee at Stalingrad, probably more so at Okinawa though, still we're talking mostly ranged combat.

Jedi are better off as commanders, spies, recon, sabetuers, assasins ect.

Give them Katanas or some other sort of bladed weapon then. And a pistol or two. Sheesh, I'd have thought the Allies were smarter than that.

[Darth Wong]

No, but Hitler may well be one of the few real-life people to have had character shields. The man's ability to survive was incredible up until the very end, when the fact that his ambitions had exceeded his abilities caught up to him.

None of the assassins who attempted to kill him in real life had Jedi precog, Force-speed, or mind tricks.

[neoolong]

No, but Hitler may well be one of the few real-life people to have had character shields. The man's ability to survive was incredible up until the very end, when the fact that his ambitions had exceeded his abilities caught up to him.

None of the assassins who attempted to kill him in real life had Jedi precog, Force-speed, or mind tricks.

Since they don't have to contend with Sith or other Force-users can't they just use TK to kill him from somewhat afar?

[Perinquus]

Of course, killing Hitler by itself might not be enough. Let us grant for the moment that Hitler is a figure of such terrible evil, that a Jedi would take the view that assasination, while not normally something they could contemplate, might very well be for the greater good in this case. Jut killing the top man is not enough. This why those who advocate assasinating Saddam today (apart from the unrealism of such a venture) do not see the difficulty. It's why killing Caesar did not automatically restore the Roman republic as Cassius and Brutus hoped. Killing the leader just creates a power vacuum that another strong man will move in to fill.

If Hitler were taken out, Himmler or Goering or Bormann might have just stepped into his place. Himmler and Bormann were easily as fanatical and as evil as Hitler. Goering was more of a sybarite, but equally amoral.

It would be necessary for the Jedi to contact figures in the German resistance, like Admiral Canaris or von Moltke or von Stauffenberg, and arrange some plan for the resistance to sieze control of the government once Hitler was eliminated.

Another problem is, ironically, FDR. Roosevelt promulgated his "unconditional surrender" policy over the objections of other Allied leaders, and even his own military advisors. His announcement of it at Casablanca, in 1943 caught Churchill by surprise. Churchill, who was inwardly dumbfounded by the announcement, and dismayed by it's probable effect on the outcome of the war, but had little choice but to announce support of the policy, for he could not be seen publicly to be in disagreement with his American ally. Eisenhower repeatedly tried to persuade Roosevelt to moderate his statements concerning unconditional surrender, as he was horrified by the effect this would have of stiffening German resistance. FDR's motivation seems to have been a desire to reassure Stalin that the Western Allies, though they had yet to open the second front in Europe for which Stalin was pressing, were totally committed to the war effort, and would not attempt any separate peace with Germany. If that was Roosevelt's aim, it did not impress Stalin any more than it did Churchill or Ike. The Russian dictator understood, as they did, that it would stiffen German resolve to fight on to the bitter end, and undermine support for the German resistance. Germans who opposed the Nazis, would now feel they had no choice but to throw in with them and defend the country, as it appeared that the Allies were implacably intent on the total destruction of Germany. Stalin also tried to talk FDR into moderating his stance, to no avail. You could privately hold to such a policy, he argued, but to announce it publicly was to give your enemy a propaganda victory. This is exactly the effect it had. Goebbels made great use of Roosevelts announcement, and said "I should never have been able to think up so rousing a slogan. If our Western enemies tell us, we won't deal with you, our only aim is to destroy you... how can any German, whether he likes it or not, do anything but fight on with all his strength." Admiral Canaris, who was later executed for his part in a failed attempt to assasinate Hitler was equally convinced that Roosevelt's announcement would have the effect Goebbels predicted, saying: "I believe the other side have now disarmed us of the last weapon with which we might have ended it. Unconditional surrender... no, our generals will not swallow that. Now I cannot see any solution."

[PrinceofLowLight]

No, but Hitler may well be one of the few real-life people to have had character shields. The man's ability to survive was incredible up until the very end, when the fact that his ambitions had exceeded his abilities caught up to him.

None of the assassins who attempted to kill him in real life had Jedi precog, Force-speed, or mind tricks.

Just you watch. He'll wake up with a migraine the day he intends to do it, his lightsaber crystal will suddenly shatter as soon as he's about to strike the killing blow and he'll slip and sprain his ankle as he reels from the wasted momentum. After reading that thing Sheppard posted, I'm thoroughly convinced the man was the only real version of the Enhanced Luck Soldiers from Escaflowne.